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canadianmuscle0803
21-01-2009, 08:59 PM
no no, its in the right section of the forum I assure you, i find that marijuana helps my appetite when im bulking up, anyone else like this method? but keep in mind, i dont smoke all day, just mainly later at night when i dont have much to do.. :greet

Van Zan
21-01-2009, 09:37 PM
When I smoke weed it make me crave for junk food. I try to limit myself

Serja
21-01-2009, 10:38 PM
Sucks for cutting though :mad:

gustavo77
21-01-2009, 10:40 PM
Hate to be the party pooper but...

"7. Discussion of recreation drugs is not welcome. We don't need that kind of attention here."

http://www.canadabodybuilding.com/forums/showthread.php?t=390

Do these rules even apply anymore??

canadianmuscle0803
21-01-2009, 10:42 PM
Hate to be the party pooper but...

"7. Discussion of recreation drugs is not welcome. We don't need that kind of attention here."

http://www.canadabodybuilding.com/forums/showthread.php?t=390

Do these rules even apply anymore??

see, and this is why you should be a mod :greet

but with that said, mine is prescribed for medical reason, so its not really classified as recreational anymore :)

gustavo77
21-01-2009, 10:52 PM
see, and this is why you should be a mod :greet

but with that said, mine is prescribed for medical reason, so its not really classified as recreational anymore :)

Oh shit bro, i forgot...you got cataracts don;t you..

#8
21-01-2009, 10:58 PM
see, and this is why you should be a mod :greet

but with that said, mine is prescribed for medical reason, so its not really classified as recreational anymore :)

you lucky ****! lol

ya it helps with sleeping and eating more thats for sure.

St
21-01-2009, 11:26 PM
Shit it seem like everyone in the gym smokes up haha.

L3
21-01-2009, 11:27 PM
my friend tells me it gets him in the 'zone' pre workout

Houstonbc
21-01-2009, 11:31 PM
my friend tells me it gets him in the 'zone' pre workout

ive had a couple buddies tell me that too, wouldnt get me in the zone it would get me at the nearest drive thru window and then to the nearest couch

waderow
21-01-2009, 11:36 PM
takes the pain away
helps sleep
increased diet
beats the shit out of boooze

the down side is it makes me studder

rated_rko
21-01-2009, 11:36 PM
i dont thnk it would get me in the xzone

#8
21-01-2009, 11:39 PM
i dont thnk it would get me in the xzone

is that the P90x-zone? *whispers* beach body....

Tony Horton is a fag

Drummer
22-01-2009, 01:58 AM
supposed to raise cortisol.

Flex15
22-01-2009, 02:09 AM
i know alot of guys who say it gets them in the zone for there workouts

like it for when my apetite isnt there and want it to be i just make sure to eat clean and stay away from junk dont like to make a habbit of it though but always keep some on hand especially for those stressfull days :)

Descimus
22-01-2009, 02:24 AM
Pre-workout it kinda suck, i prefer to keep it for the week-end..

faller
22-01-2009, 02:48 AM
My wife get's insanely orgasmic :yeah

buildinthaskinnys
22-01-2009, 03:45 AM
I used to toke up every day after work, I was so mad I'd be barely out of the parking lot and be sparking a bowl. Id get to the gym high as a kite, be repping out with insane mind muscle connection, I was literally inside of my muscle. Then A bunch of cops began to workout In my gym and I began to get paranoid, they asked me questions like "why do you work out in jeans?", how many sets of arms do you do and say things like "Expert textpert choking smokers Don't you thing the joker laughs at you?", cops are always so suspectfull like everyone is a suspect.

gustavo77
22-01-2009, 06:19 AM
Shit, there are cops in my gym that look stoned when they train, i shit you not.

BAM
22-01-2009, 07:13 AM
I like a doob as much as the next rastafarian, but this rec drug thread has got ta go.

St
22-01-2009, 08:43 AM
my friend tells me it gets him in the 'zone' pre workout



Haha the zone,i take Helios,or Clen to get into the Zone .

Big D
22-01-2009, 09:21 AM
smoking weed turns me into a hyper 5 year old

420
22-01-2009, 11:07 AM
Oh man I love weed!! I can even manage the Palumbo diet and still get ripped every night and all day weekends. haha. 420!!!

icey_boi
22-01-2009, 01:27 PM
^^nice post LOL

and i got in shit for talking about a "rec" drug that actualy has been sold in supp shops for bb'rs.(ghb)

so Boo! to this weed thread! lol

420
22-01-2009, 01:38 PM
I myself don't consider weed a drug and im sure many others are the same. It just happens to be a nice plant that I like to burn :)

faller
22-01-2009, 03:44 PM
420 burning



http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o113/faller11/random%20shit/marijuana.jpg

canadianmuscle0803
22-01-2009, 05:19 PM
^^nice post LOL

and i got in shit for talking about a "rec" drug that actualy has been sold in supp shops for bb'rs.(ghb)

so Boo! to this weed thread! lol

isn't that shit crazy?? GHB was actually sold as a bb supplement LOL

i know many bodybuilders take it to this day.. i guess it speeds up recovery time and ups your GH levels.. i would not condone this drug though, not exactly a healthy choice.

ironwill
22-01-2009, 06:29 PM
I smoke mexican ciggies before almost all workouts, and sexual performances....does a body gooooood...:beer
i dont drink alcohol ever though, that crap will screw you up...

icey_boi
22-01-2009, 06:32 PM
i know eh. ahwell.... cant win em' all



isn't that shit crazy?? GHB was actually sold as a bb supplement LOL

i know many bodybuilders take it to this day.. i guess it speeds up recovery time and ups your GH levels.. i would not condone this drug though, not exactly a healthy choice.

gustavo77
22-01-2009, 06:55 PM
^^nice post LOL

and i got in shit for talking about a "rec" drug that actualy has been sold in supp shops for bb'rs.(ghb)

so Boo! to this weed thread! lol

GHB can be deadly, weed well...you get my point.. that said this thread should not be up still. But hey, this is Canada right??

RagingRandy
22-01-2009, 07:22 PM
http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=xPZqdJq9lg0

faller
22-01-2009, 08:42 PM
^^^ Is that for real?? ^^

hyperlite32
22-01-2009, 09:01 PM
ive had a couple buddies tell me that too, wouldnt get me in the zone it would get me at the nearest drive thru window and then to the nearest couch

What he said...

jsv22
22-01-2009, 09:28 PM
i used to smoke before i did wind sprints back in the day,
kept me from feeling sick or barfing lol
i feel it's pretty innocuous, i still do it pretty often to relax
-jsv

icey_boi
22-01-2009, 10:28 PM
that shit aint real at all




http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=xPZqdJq9lg0

gsxr750
22-01-2009, 10:45 PM
Doesn't help me train, I can't focus, and I eat whole tubs of peanut butter :D Such an idiot, I got lit with this HB and I guess I left 8 or 9 spoons in her sink and didn't realize it.. from going in and stealing her peanut butter all night

I usually only partake as a substitute for alcohol, if im out, I hate being the only sober person!!

8heyzeus4
09-03-2009, 04:01 PM
haha Im glad this thread exists. I smoke before the gym usually and it definatly puts me in the zone. It shuts my brain off for the 1.5 hours Im there. I wake up in my car all sweaty with an insane pump. Heard it has estrogenic side effects, not to sure what to make of that.

pinhead
09-03-2009, 04:05 PM
Stopped smoking pot a long long time ago. As you age, it just doesn't fit one's lifestyle anymore. More a drug for teens and early 20's. After that and either you don't have a job that requires much use of a brain or you don't work at all.

8heyzeus4
09-03-2009, 04:09 PM
Stopped smoking pot a long long time ago. As you age, it just doesn't fit one's lifestyle anymore. More a drug for teens and early 20's. After that and either you don't have a job that requires much use of a brain or you don't work at all.


Thats so true. Im pretty much at that precipous in my life right now. Time to give her up.

OntariOMuscle101
10-03-2009, 09:29 AM
Definately dosen't get me in the zone, helps my appetite a great deal and makes me relax at night time, only couple times a month though, i dont smoke on a regular basis, i used to when i was in high school but not soo much ne more.:flagC

Praetorian
10-03-2009, 10:32 AM
no no, its in the right section of the forum I assure you, i find that marijuana helps my appetite when im bulking up, anyone else like this method? but keep in mind, i dont smoke all day, just mainly later at night when i dont have much to do.. :greet

Raises estrogen levels and with the added appetite increase a good way to get fat and lazy. If you are seriously into packing on size avoid it.
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waderow
10-03-2009, 10:38 AM
it is a nice stress relief once or twice every couple months, or especially nice when camping. not an every day thing, as i need to be able to think

OntariOMuscle101
10-03-2009, 11:50 AM
Raises estrogen levels and with the added appetite increase a good way to get fat and lazy. If you are seriously into packing on size avoid it.
P

not all people get "Fat anf Lazy" when smoking dank, i know ppl that smoke very strong dank and it gets them a speedy buzz, for me i get lazy like crazy thats why i only use it when i need a good stress reliever or like the post b4 when camping. Most of my friends are true hardcore potheads and they need to blaze to get out of bed, eat, none of em are lazy though. i find that if i smoked everyday compared to couple times a month there would be no differance at all, last point, i had a bud smoke a huge blunt while on T/EQ and he got very bad anxiety.

jsv22
10-03-2009, 12:35 PM
Raises estrogen levels and with the added appetite increase a good way to get fat and lazy. If you are seriously into packing on size avoid it.
P

This is the only article i could find on it,

Marijuana: interaction with the estrogen receptor

MA Sauer, SM Rifka, RL Hawks, GB Cutler and DL Loriaux

Crude marijuana extract competed with estradiol for binding to the estrogen receptor of rat uterine cytosol. Condensed marijuana smoke also competed with estradiol for its receptor. Pure delta 9- tetrahydrocannabinol, however, did not interact with the estrogen receptor. Ten delta 9-tetrahydrocannabinol metabolites also failed to compete with estradiol for its receptor. Of several other common cannabinoids tested, only cannabidiol showed any estrogen receptor binding. This was evident only at very high concentrations of cannabidiol. Apigenin, the aglycone of a flavinoid phytoestrogen found in cannabis, displayed high affinity for the estrogen receptor. To assess the biological significance of these receptor data, estrogen activity was measured in vivo with the uterine growth bioassay, using immature rats. Cannabis extract in large doses exhibited neither estrogenic nor antiestrogenic effects. Thus, although estrogen receptor binding activity was observed in crude marijuana extract, marijuana smoke condensate and several known components of cannabis, direct estrogenic activity of cannabis extract could not be demonstrated in vivo.

faller
10-03-2009, 01:17 PM
^^Correct.. Before Google was ever invented we all beleived Cannabis raised Estrogen level's. Some Doctor's still spew that shit.

ironwill
10-03-2009, 01:25 PM
Raises estrogen levels and with the added appetite increase a good way to get fat and lazy. If you are seriously into packing on size avoid it.
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I dont agree with this statement...I smoke prior to the gym and some wknds, no estro problems here, and definitely not lazy...nor fat....Im sure it doesnt give me many benefits, other than maintaining my focus in the gym and intensity....but it doesnt hurt either....BTW, i never drink alcohol..which is far more detrimental to the physique, and inner body..

waderow
10-03-2009, 02:46 PM
I dont agree with this statement...I smoke prior to the gym and some wknds, no estro problems here, and definitely not lazy...nor fat....Im sure it doesnt give me many benefits, other than maintaining my focus in the gym and intensity....but it doesnt hurt either....BTW, i never drink alcohol..which is far more detrimental to the physique, and inner body..

alcohol is horrible for health ... agreed. unelss its the one per night red wine person, but i need pretty much a bottle once i get a taste lol

as far as a toke before the gym... i would never make it to my truck to get there... get waaay too ****ed up LOL

Ritch
10-03-2009, 02:50 PM
Yeah, weed does not raise estrogen levels. If that were the case I should have bitch tits X10 from smoking every day during 10 year period. I`m neither pro or against it, just a personal choice. Personaly am glad I gave it up.

ironwill
10-03-2009, 02:58 PM
alcohol is horrible for health ... agreed. unelss its the one per night red wine person, but i need pretty much a bottle once i get a taste lol

as far as a toke before the gym... i would never make it to my truck to get there... get waaay too ****ed up LOL
who needs a truck, why drive, when you can smoke and flyyyyy....lolol...
It doesnt affect me that way , as far as getting lazy..except after saturday night cheesecake...yummmy

waderow
10-03-2009, 03:09 PM
who needs a truck, why drive, when you can smoke and flyyyyy....lolol...
It doesnt affect me that way , as far as getting lazy..except after saturday night cheesecake...yummmy

lol Oh I would be flying alright LOL

One day might have to try, but without any doubt, i would be taking only one little hoot.

i dont smoke often, so if i do, look out, i am having a disco party...literally....ABBA and all

Ritch
10-03-2009, 03:15 PM
lol Oh I would be flying alright LOL

One day might have to try, but without any doubt, i would be taking only one little hoot.

i dont smoke often, so if i do, look out, i am having a disco party...literally....ABBA and all

ABBA? As in dancing queen? Shakes head... If you dig it and have fun with it, that`s cool. We need a smiley face smoking a joint.

420
10-03-2009, 03:43 PM
+1 for a smiley face smoking a joint. id use it almost every post. hahah.

pinhead
10-03-2009, 03:48 PM
http://www.sherv.net/cm/emo/smoke/weed-3.gif

pinhead
10-03-2009, 03:49 PM
http://www.sherv.net/cm/emo/smoke/weed-4.gif

pinhead
10-03-2009, 03:50 PM
http://www.sherv.net/cm/emo/smoke/joint.gif

Praetorian
10-03-2009, 04:36 PM
Journal of Clinical Pharmacology, 2002;42:90S-96S

In the 35 years since the active compound of marijuana,
9-tetrahydrocannabinol, was isolated, the psychological
and physiological impact of marijuana use has been actively
investigated. Animal models have demonstrated that
cannabinoid administration acutely alters multiple hormonal
systems, including the suppression of the gonadal steroids,
growth hormone, prolactin, and thyroid hormone and
the activation of the hypothalamic-pituitary-adrenal axis.
These effects are mediated by binding to the endogenous
cannabinoid receptor in or near the hypothalamus. Despite
these findings in animals, the effects in humans have been inconsistent,
and discrepancies are likely due in part to the development
of tolerance.

The results on humans are inconsistent but based on scientific methodology over the last fifty years I would error on the side of study discrepancy.
In other words if my prime objective was to raise test, GH levels and keep estrogen low my tendency would be to avoid it.
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jsv22
10-03-2009, 04:43 PM
Effects of chronic marijuana use on testosterone, luteinizing hormone, follicle stimulating hormone, prolactin and cortisol in men and women.

Block RI, Farinpour R, Schlechte JA.

Department of Anesthesia, College of Medicine, University of Iowa, Iowa City 52242.

To investigate possible effects of chronic marijuana use on reproductive and stress hormones, we assayed testosterone, luteinizing hormone, follicle stimulating hormone, prolactin, and cortisol in 93 men and 56 women with a mean (+/- S.E.) age of 23.5 +/- 0.4 years. Hormone values were compared among groups of subjects stratified according to frequency of marijuana use (frequent, moderate and infrequent; N = 27, 18, and 30, respectively) and non-using controls (N = 74). Chronic marijuana use showed no significant effect on hormone concentrations in either men or women.


Serum testosterone concentrations in cannabis and opiate users

[Article in German]

Friedrich G, Nepita W, Andre T.

Institut fur Rechtsmedizin, Universitat Freiburg.

The object of this study was to establish possible influences of long-term cannabis usage on plasma testosterone levels. The plasma testosterone levels of 66 male Pakistani who for years had smoked cannabis daily or drank cannabis regularly where measured after chronic and acute intake of the drug and compared with a material of 41 normal controls, i.e. persons who did not use cannabis. An evaluation of the results showed that there were no significant differences between the two groups. No influence of long-term cannabis usage on plasma testosterone levels was found. Furthermore we wished to find out wether long-term heroin abuse showed an effect on plasma testosterone levels. The concentrations of testosterone in the plasma of 102 heroin addicts assigned to a Methadone Program were measured and compared with the values of 29 male healthy students as controls. Plasma testosterone levels were found to be significantly decreased in heroin addicts as compared to controls.