Tren ace and 2nd cycle

[Dk]

Ok i know, tren is a kick in the ass.

Should probably stay away 2nd cycle especially.

But ive just been randomly brainstormin in my head different cycle options.

One that came up was Tren ace and sust.
maybe sust for 12 and ace for 8?

I'd rather use a long ester but how many of you have ran ace with a long estered? Lots have said in relation to Test E and NPP that that the NPP would kick in before the test and youd get the loss of libido sides from the NPP.

But thats for NPP, i cant really think of anything that would matter if the ace was active for a few weeks before test got elevated. If thats the case, id just go with Test E

something like 600mg test E and.. 250mg Ace/wk?


feel free to throw out other cycls to, im just brainstormin

[talon05]

Bro for your first gp around with tren i wouldnt do more then 6 weeks I would also run your test weather it be susta or ethanate for 2 weeks prior to running tren ace you want a good high output of test b4 you run tren My first cycle with tren was 7 weeks and i was wanting to quit after the 6 wek mark due to the insomnia kidney pain temper high bp etc etc

[Dk]

Bro for your first gp around with tren i wouldnt do more then 6 weeks I would also run your test weather it be susta or ethanate for 2 weeks prior to running tren ace you want a good high output of test b4 you run tren My first cycle with tren was 7 weeks and i was wanting to quit after the 6 wek mark due to the insomnia kidney pain temper high bp etc etc

6 weeks it is.

And i like the Test E for the first 2 weeks idea.

Never really thought of putting the tren closer to the end. Would help keep my dry near the end to i guess.

Ace EOD? or do you guys prefer ED

[Houstonbc]

ive never noticed a difference between ed and eod i have tried both and just go eod now

[Dk]

ive never noticed a difference between ed and eod i have tried both and just go eod now

ok so hows like.

500-600 enth /wk
75m ACE EOD

[kloan]

What about tren enth and pinning together with the test? Both long esters then.. seems like they'd be more matched up?

[neobol]

I think the much shorter tren ace is used so you can drop it when you start rolling around with night sweats dreaming about killing people, and be back to normal in 2 days instead of 2 weeks. lol

[Redz]

I havent run Tren Ace yet but I love Tren E. I found the sides very tolerable at 400mg/week. I plan on going up a little on my next cycle.

[xxSCHiSMxx]

I think the much shorter tren ace is used so you can drop it when you start rolling around with night sweats dreaming about killing people, and be back to normal in 2 days instead of 2 weeks. lol
I would recommend same thing for 1st time tren users.

[Houstonbc]

75mg eod sounds like a good start bro

[talon05]

NO bro i would run 35-40 mg ED it will keep the blood levels more stable....guys run it eod but I wouldnt I tried both and got better results with it ed...as for the test run er like you said a good 2 weeks b4 your first shot of tren A and then give er for you 6 weeks then stay on test for the remaining weeks say 2 or 3 weeks after last tren shot then hit your PCT hard i would recomend nolva clomid and hcg

[Dk]

What about tren enth and pinning together with the test? Both long esters then.. seems like they'd be more matched up?

a.)dont plan on being on tren long enough to take advantage of enanthate ester.
b.)see quote below haha


I think the much shorter tren ace is used so you can drop it when you start rolling around with night sweats dreaming about killing people, and be back to normal in 2 days instead of 2 weeks. lol


NO bro i would run 35-40 mg ED it will keep the blood levels more stable....guys run it eod but I wouldnt I tried both and got better results with it ed...as for the test run er like you said a good 2 weeks b4 your first shot of tren A and then give er for you 6 weeks then stay on test for the remaining weeks say 2 or 3 weeks after last tren shot then hit your PCT hard i would recomend nolva clomid and hcg

HCG a must?

nolva and clomid is def. But do you really think i need the hCG?
as for ED, its def a possibility, i was hitting prop EOD and i hated it, let alone ED.

How is xxx Tren ace pain wise compared to the xxx Prop?

the prop hurts haha

[Houstonbc]

tren ace is painless man

[kloan]

a.)dont plan on being on tren long enough to take advantage of enanthate ester.
b.)see quote below haha


yeah, i get it now... me personally, i wouldn't like having to pin every day or eod.

but i guess it's not a viable way to do it afterall.... doh.

[Dk]

tren ace is painless man

good enough for me.

pain or not, ill try ED for the first week, if it goes south, ill just switch to EOD going into wk 2, no problem.

my only problem is injection sites.

ive tried traps, couldnt do it, bis felt like death. quads and delts are the only thing i like so far.

oddly, still have yet to try glutes.

[gustavo77]

a.)dont plan on being on tren long enough to take advantage of enanthate ester.
b.)see quote below haha





HCG a must?

nolva and clomid is def. But do you really think i need the hCG?
as for ED, its def a possibility, i was hitting prop EOD and i hated it, let alone ED.

How is xxx Tren ace pain wise compared to the xxx Prop?

the prop hurts haha


HCG is always a must on cycle...250-500iu 2x per week from the start of your cycle...once that tren kicks in, it will shut the boyz down hard.

No need for nolva and clomid...SERM abuse..lol.. pic one and run it with aromasin for your pct. Run the aromasin 2 weeks past the serm to prevent estrogen rebound.

Some ace hurts, some dosen't...you won't know until you try.

[Dk]

HCG is always a must on cycle...250-500iu 2x per week from the start of your cycle...once that tren kicks in, it will shut the boyz down hard.

No need for nolva and clomid...SERM abuse..lol.. pic one and run it with aromasin for your pct. Run the aromasin 2 weeks past the serm to prevent estrogen rebound.

Some ace hurts, some dosen't...you won't know until you try.

So just split the HCG shots up exactly like i would an enanthate ester then eh.

Except i guess i cant mix them though because of the bases.

[Houstonbc]

no dont mix them dude! take the hcg subq

[grifter]

Years ago I ran sust with parabolan and probably received the most compliments on my physique. I think I was using tren and cytahohs, and I just blew up. 500-750 sust and 150-200 tren.
It was a wicked combo for me.

[Dk]

no dont mix them dude! take the hcg subq
subq is a whole new ballgame to me. Never even looked into i. I obviously know Hcg is done subq, just never looked into it more then that

Years ago I ran sust with parabolan and probably received the most compliments on my physique. I think I was using tren and cytahohs, and I just blew up. 500-750 sust and 150-200 tren.
It was a wicked combo for me.

this was my first choice.

but the idea of EOD sust and Ed tren scared me with all the pinning haha