margarine or butter???????

[Mr.Freeze]

DID YOU KNOW... The difference between margarine and butter?

Both have the same amount of calories Butter is slightly higher in saturated fats at 8 grams compared to 5 grams. Eating margarine can increase heart disease in women by 53% over eating the same amount of butter according to a recent Harvard Medical Study

Eating butter increases the absorption of many other nutrients in other foods Butter has many nutrional benefits where margarine has a few only because they are added! Butter tastes much better then margarine and it can enhance the flavours of other foods. Butter has been around for centuries where margarine has been around for less then 100 years Now for Margarine... very high in Trans Fatty Acids Triple risk of Coronary Heart Disease Increases total and LDL ( this is the bad cholesterol) Lowers HDL cholesterol * and this is the good one Increases the risk of cancers by up to five fold. Lowers quality of breast milk. Decreases immune response. Decreases insulin response.

And here is the most disturbing fact....

Margarine is but ONE MOLECULE from being PLASTIC...

( this fact alone was enough to have me avoiding margarine for life and anything else that is hydrogenated , this means hydrogen is added changing the molecular structure of the food )

YOU can try this yourself, purchase a tub of margarine and leave it in your garage or shaded area, within a couple of days you will note a couple of things, no flies, not even those pesky fruit flies will go near it,( that should tell you something) it does not rot, smell differently...Because it has no nutritional value, nothing will grow on it, even those teeny weeny microorganisms will not a find a home to grow...Why? because it is nearly plastic. Would you melt your tupperware and spread that on your toast?

Yuck!

[Matthew]

Man, I thought it was better for the health than butter. I was misinformed.

[Mr.Freeze]

same thing for me!! now only butter and pam!

[519Muscle]

vegetable spray

[tiramisu]

macadamia, walnut, olive and coconut oils are yummy

But I understand that organic, grass fed, butter is pretty darn good too.

Only 15 more weeks of dieting to go.

[JonnyO]

Sometimes hard to find this stuff, for me anyways. I need to cross the border to get it. But tastes so much better too plus has health benefits.

"Butter from grass-fed cows also has more cancer-fighting CLA, vitamin E, beta-carotene, and omega-3 fatty acids than butter from cows raised in factory farms or that have limited access to pasture"

[rated_rko]

damn i guess ill use butter

[ProteinJunkie]

I'll also quickly add that butter is natural and comes from natural sources whereas margarine is made/created by man. I'll take anything natural over anything man-made any day of the week, regardless of it's nutritional profile. It's simply going to be healthier for you I think...

[ironwill]

Butter is better.......i think thats a slogan somewhere, and its true....

[#8]

margarine is more convenient than butter, but it looks like i will be making the switch now for sure.

[JonnyO]

margarine is more convenient than butter,.


How so?

[rickyboy36]

Butter that comes from grass fed animals especially,is an execellent source of fat.If you read the article John meadows wrote it states that.But even regular butter is better.Not sure of the science,but thats what ive read as well

As for the molecule part,that doesn't mean nothing Mr Freeze..that would be like saying if we take away the oxygen atom from water (h20)then we would be drinking a hydrogen :P..j/k

[Ritch]

Interesting info. Seems one week you hear something positive or negative for both. But margarine being so close to plastic kind of disgusts me. Although I so little of it, think I`ll get some butter instead next time I`m out.

[tiramisu]

It's probably been 10 years since I had either butter or margarine in the house but I love butter at a restaurant.

[BAM]

What about Becel?

[mountaindog1]

Butter that comes from grass fed animals especially,is an execellent source of fat.If you read the article John meadows wrote it states that.But even regular butter is better.Not sure of the science,but thats what ive read as well

As for the molecule part,that doesn't mean nothing Mr Freeze..that would be like saying if we take away the oxygen atom from water (h20)then we would be drinking a hydrogen :P..j/k
Butter - I love butter....

Don't buy into the hype that butter clogs up your arteries due to saturated fats. Let me tell you what butter really does to your body.

1) The Omega 3 to 6 ratio is perfect. That equals better health and better fat loss.
2) It has lots of oleic acid in it, a monsaturated fat, that is very antimicrobial, and is key for communication between cells.
3) The saturated fats are generally short and meduim chain like coconut oil which protects us against infection..

So you have good polys, good monos, and good saturates..

Also - you get Arichidonic acid (spelling?). Some people dwell on the fact that this can increase bad prostaglandins, but they fail to realize it also makes the ones that counteract these too, so it's a wash.

You get a very good dose of Vitamin A that absorbs easy..

You get lots of trace minerals - chromium, zinc copper, selenium (also great antioxidant)..

If its from a grass fed cow - you get CLA..

Actually if it's raw/unpasteurized - you get this stuff called Wulzen Factor which prevents arthritis and relieves joint stiffness in many...

JM

[Praetorian]

Think about it...how can an artificially processed food product be better for you than something completely natural?
P

[#8]

How so?

i can keep it in my fridge, and still spread it easily.

ever try to spread cold butter on toast? id rather have my fingernails removed with pliers while someone gives me a sponge bath with a cheese grater.

:popc2

[melanie tan]

Really, butter is better than margarine. This fact really does have some information that we can understand as to involve in this kind of topic. The food is really important to our health so we must also be wise and observant in knowing what we eat every day. Thank for the information and I hope you will share more facts about many topics especially for the health.

[Timbo89]

macadamia nut oil or PAM for me.

[Krozone]

Thx for the great infO!

Kro!

[rickyboy36]

macadamia nut oil or PAM for me.

yaa..mmm..thats really good on toast :)

[CalgaryBeast]

What about the new non hydrogenated olive oil based margarin? it cannot be that bad for you can it?

[Jazzy]

Thx for the info Freeze!^^

For me, it's only PAM, but i'll tell that to my family that's margarine aren't better than butter and better for health also!^^

[warlock]

What about the new non hydrogenated olive oil based margarin? it cannot be that bad for you can it?

Vegetable oil is not supposed to be solid at room temperature. I guess that common sense says it all.

There is a direct correlation between cholesterol levels and margarine consumption

BECEL is a sponsor of the Heart and stroke foundation therefore be careful with the mainstream sources of information on nutrition as their bias is based on whomever is paying for their research or sponsoring their activities.

[L3]

ugh wtf am i supposed to do with this XL tub of margarine i bought...

[natenator]

ugh wtf am i supposed to do with this XL tub of margarine i bought...
use it as lube with your boyfriend.

[Retics]

Just something I found,, not too sure how accurate this is though....

Margarine or Butter-Truth! & Fiction!

Summary of the eRumor:
A list of comparative facts about margarine and butter.
The Truth:

The heart of this eRumor, the comparison between butter and Margarine, has been circulating since 2005. Later versions added the tidbit about Margarine being manufactured to fatten turkeys.

We'll go through the email one fact at time but it needs to be kept in mind that not every Margarine product is the same. There are other spreads that are loosely called Margarine but may, for example, be part vegetable oil or a fat-free Margarine product.

1. Margarine was originally manufactured to fatten turkeys. When it killed The turkeys, the people who had put all the money into the research wanted a Payback so they put their heads together to figure out what to do with this Product to get their money back. It was a white substance with no food Appeal so they added the yellow coloring and sold it to people to use in Place of butter. How do you like it? They have come out with some clever New flavorings-Fiction!
According to the National Association of Margarine Manufacturers, Margarine was the idea of a Frenchman named Hippolyte Mege-Mouriez in response to a request from Emperor Louis Napoleon for ideas for a substitute for butter. In 1870 he used margaric acid and the name of his formulation became known as Margarine. It became a hit in the United States in the late 1800's.

2. Both have the same amount of calories-Truth!
A tablespoon of butter is 100 calories. A tablespoon of Margarine is 100 calories.

3. Eating margarine can increase heart disease in women by 53% over eating the same amount of butter, according to a recent Harvard Medical Study-Truth! But Updated!
We didn't find the "53%" study, but Harvard School of Public Health has published a report on this. It says that more than 30 years ago research indicated that saturated fat (such as in butter) was bad for the heart and people were told to switch to margarine. A Harvard study of women between 1980 and 1994 found a significant reduction of heart disease risk by reducing smoking, hormone treatment, and dietary improvements including reducing or eliminating saturated fat (such as in butter.) Further research has shown, however, that some margarines contained trans fat, which was even worse for the heart than saturated fat. The report cautions us not to make decisions as a result of just one study but to consider the body of recent research about an issue like butter versus margarine.
4. Butter is slightly higher in saturated fats at 8 grams compared to 5 Grams-Truth!
A tablespoon of butter is 7g of saturated fat. A tablespoon of margarine is 2g of saturated fat.

5. Eating butter increases the absorption of many other nutrients in other Foods-Unproven!
We could not find anything definitive about this.

6. Butter has many nutritional benefits where margarine has a few only because they are added!
It depends on what you are measuring. The advantage of butter is that it is a more natural product than margarine and does have more vitamin content. But butter is high in saturated fat, which is associated with increased heart attack risk. Saturated fats are the ones that are solid at room temperature and increase the "bad" cholesterol (LDL) as well as the "good" cholesterol (HDL). The disadvantage of true margarine is the trans fat level. The more solid a margarine is at room temperature, the more trans fat it contains, as much as 3 grams per tablespoon. Margarine makers have responded to that by releasing tub or liquid products that have either reduced or eliminated trans fats. Watch for the labels. Heart doctors recommend butter over normal margarine but recommend trans fat free margarines over butter. It all gets very confusing. There are even margarine products now that say they actually lower cholesterol.

7. Butter tastes much better than margarine and it can enhance the flavors of other foods-A Matter of Personal Taste!

8. Butter has been around for centuries where margarine has been around for Less than 100 years-Truth!

9. Margarine is high in trans fatty acids-Truth!

10. Margarine triples the risk of coronary heart disease-Unproven!
Although trans fats are to be avoided, we did not find any research that says that the use of margarine triples the risk of heart disease.

11. Margarine ncreases total cholesterol and LDL (this is the bad cholesterol) and lowers HDL cholesterol, (the good cholesterol)-Truth!

12. Increases the risk of cancers up to five fold-Fiction!
We could not find any substantiation of this claim.

13. Margarine lowers quality of breast milk-Truth!
We didn't find any research on this but there are studies on how a mother's eating of trans fats affects the level of trans fats in her milk. One study, for example, comparing Canadian breast milk to Chinese breast milk found that Canadian mothers had 33 more trans fats in their milk than the Chinese mothers. So the quality of the breast milk can be affected by the consumption of trans fats.

14. Margarine decreases immune response-Truth!
We found several references to this including an article by nutritionist Dr. Mary Enig that said that consuming trans fatty acids "Affects immune response by lowering effeciency of B cell response and increasing proliferation of T cells."

15. Decreases insulin response-Truth!
Actually the trans fat can increase blood insulin levels, which increases the risk for diabetes.

16. Margarine is but ONE MOLECULE away from being PLASTIC-Fiction!
We found no support for this. Perhaps whoever wrote this heard a discussion about the "plasticity" of margarine. It is "plastic" at room temperature meaning that the shape of it can be changed when pressure is applied. That doesn't mean it is composed of what we normally think of as plastic. It was originally made of animal fats but increasingly now is made from vegetable oils.

[L3]

use it as lube with your boyfriend.

we use pam... trying to keep fats absorbed through the rectum to a minimum

[tiramisu]

What isn't pointed out by the posts so far is that the evils of "saturated fats" are turning out to be exaggerated and the new devil of the week is "trans fat". It's hard to keep up.

Margarine was supposed to be the healthy replacement for butter. At the end of the day I use neither except for a special treat with a cob of corn or at a restaurant and then it's going to be butter because I prefer the taste.

[Skyblob]

:rofl:laugh

use it as lube with your boyfriend.

[beserker]

i can keep it in my fridge, and still spread it easily.

ever try to spread cold butter on toast? id rather have my fingernails removed with pliers while someone gives me a sponge bath with a cheese grater.

:popc2

AHAHAHAHAHAAH !!! That is priceless hahahaha