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Roid-Monkey
19-01-2009, 10:28 AM
LOL lately ive been getting so much rage from the eca stack. Crazy mood swings, anger.. soo much anger (roids never do that to me). I have become irrational and very crackhead like.

Anyone else have similar reactions to the eca stack?

jsv22
19-01-2009, 11:50 AM
what dose have you been taking it at??? have you tried lowering the dose !?
there are two strong stimulants in that combo so i'm not 100% surprised!

-jsv

Felinecougar
19-01-2009, 11:52 AM
The only time I was like that was when someone got in my way in the kitchen and thought they should be able to eat or prep something ahead of me. Then I went off!

Tossing dishes around, screaming etc.

Roid-Monkey
19-01-2009, 11:53 AM
doses are 24mg eph + 200mg caff.. 3x a day.
Ive gone crazy on my boss.. (lol somehow still ahve that job)
Went crazy on gf.
Got out of my car to go nuts on a person who cut me off lol.

Normally im very passive.

Serja
19-01-2009, 11:54 AM
I get that way every time I am on ECA, I hope it is normal haha.

bigben
19-01-2009, 12:18 PM
Is there a chance that there might be an added element of the effects of the diet you might be on? I get short tempered and cranky when my blood sugar is low from dieting, esp on too low of carbs.

Roid-Monkey
19-01-2009, 12:30 PM
oh yes i get really horrible when dieting as well.. lol i think im just going to stop both the diet and the eca for the safety of others + keeping this relationship lol.

Ritch
19-01-2009, 01:50 PM
If you`ve never done eca, starting with those doses is just crazy. Taking half that amount of ephedrine will produce results per serving and 2 servings a day is plenty to start with. How long ago did you start?

Roid-Monkey
19-01-2009, 03:15 PM
ummmmmm lol its been about 2 years im on.. haha i do go off for about 4 weeks after 3 months of using. however now its really taken its toll.

Serja
19-01-2009, 03:23 PM
I thought you should only go 6 weeks max without breaks?

gsxr750
19-01-2009, 03:24 PM
Works better the longer you're on it, for fat loss at least...

Ritch
19-01-2009, 03:34 PM
ummmmmm lol its been about 2 years im on.. haha i do go off for about 4 weeks after 3 months of using. however now its really taken its toll.

You`re cycling strategy seems reasonable. Must be a crappy 4 weeks when you go off. I`m actually surprised you don`t use more considering how much you use it. I thought you just started using it, that`s why I recommended such low doses.

Bowlcut
19-01-2009, 05:37 PM
Ephedrine is proven to cause adrenal fatigue and therefore causes mood swings, depression, irritability, etc.

I suggest you run a yohimbe based compound instead.

Roid-Monkey
20-01-2009, 09:43 AM
Ephedrine is proven to cause adrenal fatigue and therefore causes mood swings, depression, irritability, etc.

I suggest you run a yohimbe based compound instead.

check on all three. I also notice this happens only after 2 weeks of being on. Plz tell me more of this yohimbe based counpounds.

bigtavi8
20-01-2009, 09:58 AM
i def dont no it all when it comes to ECA stack but what i do no is what was previously sed. 6 weeks is the suggested length of cycle before a break. I think this is done to prevent damage (Irreversible?) to the thryoid. When eca is acting on your system for a long length of time like 2 years i think it could supress your thryroid (momentarily or permanently) so that when you stop with eca your rate of thermogenisis would be significantly lower ( hard to burn fat after). But just my take. And ya the anger on eca is very tru. Its not so much anger with me but more of a anxious and snappy feeling which i find myself doing the same things you (who started this thread) were.
IMO ECA=great fat loss...great relationship loss lololol :) gf will hate me when i start for my pre contests eca stack..o well :0

Diesel_250
20-01-2009, 11:07 AM
Ephedrine is proven to cause adrenal fatigue and therefore causes mood swings, depression, irritability, etc.

I suggest you run a yohimbe based compound instead.

That's what happens to me. The last time I was taking eca I was an emotional wreck. I chalked it up to being that they are stimulants so the moods were more intense. I am a pretty up and down guy to begin with so the eca made it 100 times worse. I tell my gf exactly what I take and if something is affecting me in a negative way she lets me know so I can make adjustments before it gets out of control.

cheers

Bowlcut
20-01-2009, 11:51 AM
Honestly guys just google the side effects of anything and you can see what a compound can do.
In my experience of taking yohimbine the only sides have been boners. Rock hard boners. No mood swings, depression, etc. :D

Anatomy
21-01-2009, 11:40 AM
zero tolerance on that stuff. I'm usually ok but if there is a challenge or someone disagrees with me I can rage or choose to withdraw, there is no in between... add high-dose tren to the mix and shit just happens.

funny thing is that I can remember taking 150mcg ephedrine with 400mg caffeine regularly [almost 15 years ago!]. I'm not saying it was smart to do that, just noting that I didn't have the same bad temper effect. maybe it's something that changes with age or lifestyle that affects the sides??

Drummer
23-01-2009, 05:24 PM
stimulants can easily make people irritable. take less and see if that helps. simple coffee (over 100mg) makes me short tempered. If i go to 200mg caffeine, i feel like i want to punch plates for some reason.

~DB~

St
23-01-2009, 09:48 PM
stimulants can easily make people irritable. take less and see if that helps. simple coffee (over 100mg) makes me short tempered. If i go to 200mg caffeine, i feel like i want to punch plates for some reason.

~DB~

I know many people that get irritable on caffeine.

proximo
23-01-2009, 11:11 PM
I find if I take the eca with a meal instead of an empty stomach, it helps take some of the edge off.

Musclehead
24-01-2009, 07:26 AM
ECA will not cause any rage.

ECA may cause you to feel anxiety though and a little jittery.

Not enough sex will cause you to rage, at least that's what I've noticed lol

slick rick
24-01-2009, 10:35 AM
I used to take ECA more for added pep before a work out than trying to lose weight. I found myself to be very irritable and borderlined depressed even at low doses of 16mg ephidrine/day, along with added anxiety. The only time I take it now is if i'm trying to hit a new PR.