Honey for pre-workout shake

[Drummer]

Im trying honey in my pre-workout shake as a slow carb energy source. With a glycemic index of 55, it digests about as slow as oats, tastes good in a shake, and provides lots of energy. Any input is welcome,

~DB~

[Ritch]

I think honey is fructose, which is bad, but who really knows. Sure tastes good though!

[Drummer]

it is high in fructose... but somehow, even though it digests fast... doesnt cause a big insuline spike. Im reading some opinions on it now...

~DB~

[O-Train]

it is high in fructose... but somehow, even though it digests fast... doesnt cause a big insuline spike. Im reading some opinions on it now...

~DB~

Honey is good stuff. It has other carb sources besides fructose.

[ironwill]

I have always believed fructose to be a good source of glycogen....Apparently it is good for replenishment of liver glycogen, or the long term glycogen supply....Muscle glycogen is the short term glycogen supply...
Good choice on honey, it has other health benefits as well if not pasteurized..

[Drummer]

A little Wiki blurb to brush up on the composition of Honey, pretty surprising...

NUTRITIONAL COMPOSITION OF HONEY

Honey is a mixture of sugars and other compounds. With respect to carbohydrates, honey is mainly fructose (about 38.5%) and glucose (about 31.0%),[4] making it similar to the synthetically produced inverted sugar syrup which is approximately 48% fructose, 47% glucose, and 5% sucrose. Honey's remaining carbohydrates include maltose, sucrose, and other complex carbohydrates.[4] Honey contains trace amounts of several vitamins and minerals.[17] As with all nutritive sweeteners, honey is mostly sugars and is not a significant source of vitamins or minerals.[18] Honey also contains tiny amounts of several compounds thought to function as antioxidants, including chrysin, pinobanksin, vitamin C, catalase, and pinocembrin.[19][20] The specific composition of any batch of honey will depend largely on the mix of flowers available to the bees that produced the honey.[18]

Typical honey analysis[18]

Fructose: 38.5%
Glucose: 31.0%
Sucrose: 1.0%
Water: 17.0%
Other sugars: 9.0% (maltose, melezitose)
Ash: 0.17%
Other: 3.38%

[5151]

it is high in fructose... but somehow, even though it digests fast... doesnt cause a big insuline spike. Im reading some opinions on it now...

~DB~

It's about the same break down as HFCS or sucrose. Fructose taken along side glucose is fine. Let's be realistic if you're not on some sort of keto you're not going to be depleted and worrying about the type of carb and the timing isn't going to make any difference.

[kloan]

I tried adding honey into my PWO shake. Made it way too sweet.. f'n gross.

[fourarms]

I remember reading somewhere that honey first thing in morning is good to shut down catabolism almost immediately. Something about it having to go to the liver first before the muscles, and its the liver's shortage of glycogen that triggers a cat. state. Apparently brain function burns alot of the liver's glycogen while asleep. Don't know if its true, but I take a tablespoon each morning before my protein shake when I'm trying to add weight. Maybe all BS, but it tastes good.

[jsv22]

I remember reading somewhere that honey first thing in morning is good to shut down catabolism almost immediately. Something about it having to go to the liver first before the muscles, and its the liver's shortage of glycogen that triggers a cat. state. Apparently brain function burns alot of the liver's glycogen while asleep. Don't know if its true, but I take a tablespoon each morning before my protein shake when I'm trying to add weight. Maybe all BS, but it tastes good.

ya i think any protein or carb that causes release of insulin will increase anabolism. the liver glycogen is turned over at a large rate (it can decrease to 1/2 after 6 hours of fasting but it can also recover it's glycogen very quickly too), muscle on the other hand doesn't change that rapidly (without exercise anyways).

Nothing wrong with honey, it's basically invert sugar, which is created from sucrose...you can make a home version too lol more info here, http://www.chemie.uni-regensburg.de/Organische_Chemie/Didaktik/Keusch/D-art_honey-e.htm

-jsv

[Drummer]

i started using honey for pre-workout energy... along with some flax toast or something solid. It seems to be giving me good lasting power so far... will keep up on it and see.


~DB~

[Sean Summers]

Bears like it so I am sure you will be as big as a bear in no time.

:hu

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