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Led Hed
13-01-2009, 11:51 PM
I know this is a ridiculous question and I already know the answer but I'm throwing a hail mary anyway . . .

Is there any way to decrease the length of time a drug detectable (in urine specifically) ?



And if not, is there any 100% guaranteed way to beat a piss test for anabolics?

:D

Dk
13-01-2009, 11:55 PM
I know this is a ridiculous question and I already know the answer but I'm throwing a hail mary anyway . . .

Is there any way to decrease the length of time a drug detectable (in urine specifically) ?



And if not, is there any 100% guaranteed way to beat a piss test for anabolics?

:D

THis doesnt really answer your question because i dont know.

But what is the test for? if its a standard drug test for a job or something, AAS wont show up on it.

And im pretty sure there is no 100% way to beat it, or tops athlete would probably know it and wouldnt be getting caught for AAS use haha.

Led Hed
14-01-2009, 12:18 AM
THis doesnt really answer your question because i dont know.

But what is the test for? if its a standard drug test for a job or something, AAS wont show up on it.

And im pretty sure there is no 100% way to beat it, or tops athlete would probably know it and wouldnt be getting caught for AAS use haha.
Haha yeah, so true

It's for policing. I don't know 100% for sure if it's tested for but I know that they do ask for it on a questionnaire during one of the application process steps. I don't see why they would but basically if they do and I fail, I can kiss my dreams goodbye with all services.

I went so far as to email a recruiter at another service using an alias asking a bunch of application related questions and slipped that one in there and the email back said that they cannot disclose what exactly they test for (I asked if they tested for recreational, steroids, prescription, etc) and that's the answer I got. I don't want to risk it unless I know for sure that it's not tested for.

MoooBaby
14-01-2009, 12:56 AM
Haha yeah, so true

It's for policing. I don't know 100% for sure if it's tested for but I know that they do ask for it on a questionnaire during one of the application process steps. I don't see why they would but basically if they do and I fail, I can kiss my dreams goodbye with all services.

I went so far as to email a recruiter at another service using an alias asking a bunch of application related questions and slipped that one in there and the email back said that they cannot disclose what exactly they test for (I asked if they tested for recreational, steroids, prescription, etc) and that's the answer I got. I don't want to risk it unless I know for sure that it's not tested for.


Nothing a little valium for the poly, lies for the questions and someones clean urine tucked under your bag won't fix.

But. . if you join their team, your probably going to get harrassed if you're obviously a juicer.

Dk
14-01-2009, 01:42 AM
Ive actually talked to cops about this and shit.

if you tell the truth on the poly, and even if its a negative answer, chances are they will let it slide, especially for something like AAS use.

thats here though, cant garuntee it goes that easily with every force.

St
14-01-2009, 08:42 AM
I know a cop and he said he did a cycle just after high school.If you said you took them,then you will be fine just don't lie.Just don't be on gear for the Poly test then it will show you have lied,like i said make sure your off,but once your in the Force then you can get back on it.There was a cop from my gym that won the Middleweights.

Led Hed
14-01-2009, 09:19 AM
Nothing a little valium for the poly, lies for the questions and someones clean urine tucked under your bag won't fix.

But. . if you join their team, your probably going to get harrassed if you're obviously a juicer.


Ive actually talked to cops about this and shit.

if you tell the truth on the poly, and even if its a negative answer, chances are they will let it slide, especially for something like AAS use.

thats here though, cant garuntee it goes that easily with every force.


I know a cop and he said he did a cycle just after high school.If you said you took them,then you will be fine just don't lie.Just don't be on gear for the Poly test then it will show you have lied,like i said make sure your off,but once your in the Force then you can get back on it.There was a cop from my gym that won the Middleweights.

Thanks for the input fellas.

You all seem to think that there is a poly in Ontario for policing (I guess I should have specified where I'm located); the poly is only enforced for the RCMP and perhaps a few other provinces but Ontario is NOT one of them. I was worried about this at first too but now I'm wondering that since they don't do a polygraph, they might actually test for it.

Seth
14-01-2009, 10:55 AM
They might ask you during the interview. If they test and ask, they can see if you lied (that's what the military does)

Kronis
14-01-2009, 11:29 AM
They might ask you during the interview. If they test and ask, they can see if you lied (that's what the military does)

the military uses lie detectors? Or do you mean they just do a drug test?

Seth
14-01-2009, 11:53 AM
They ask during interview(no polygraph), then test during medical: cross-reference to see whether you lied or not. I know people who had taken an incredible diversity of illegal drugs, told it to the face of the interviewer, added that it was behind them and wouldn't take any anymore. Got hired.

waderow
14-01-2009, 12:44 PM
for police , you generally have to be AAS or drug free for 2 years i think, and criminal activity free for 5.
If youre getting polygraphed, and you get caught in a lie, you're done.

Led Hed
14-01-2009, 03:28 PM
for police , you generally have to be AAS or drug free for 2 years i think, and criminal activity free for 5.
If youre getting polygraphed, and you get caught in a lie, you're done.
Right, but there's no polygraph. I'll just have to wait until it clears my system before I apply so in the event they do test for AAS, I won't test positive.

Led Hed
14-01-2009, 03:30 PM
They ask during interview(no polygraph), then test during medical: cross-reference to see whether you lied or not. I know people who had taken an incredible diversity of illegal drugs, told it to the face of the interviewer, added that it was behind them and wouldn't take any anymore. Got hired.
That's what I'm going to have to do too. As long as my piss is clean, I should be home free.

I just wish I knew 167% for sure if they do actually test for it.

deleteduser0001
14-01-2009, 10:09 PM
Right, but there's no polygraph. I'll just have to wait until it clears my system before I apply so in the event they do test for AAS, I won't test positive.

really? do you live in a one horse town, even in the 'hat (pop 60 000) they test with a poly.

Led Hed
14-01-2009, 10:50 PM
really? do you live in a one horse town, even in the 'hat (pop 60 000) they test with a poly.
Ontario never passed it; no services in Ontario (regional and provincial alike) run the poly.

nisser
14-01-2009, 11:10 PM
They ask during interview(no polygraph), then test during medical: cross-reference to see whether you lied or not. I know people who had taken an incredible diversity of illegal drugs, told it to the face of the interviewer, added that it was behind them and wouldn't take any anymore. Got hired.

it's also not the only requirement of course. They will overlook things for a kickass applicant that excells in other areas.

Led Hed
15-01-2009, 06:59 PM
it's also not the only requirement of course. They will overlook things for a kickass applicant that excells in other areas.
Though this is very true, if I tested . . . I just don't want to test positive.

Led Hed
17-01-2009, 03:37 PM
here is another question . . . are detection times the same for both blood and urine?

chan_ho_nam
18-01-2009, 04:08 AM
here is another question . . . are detection times the same for both blood and urine?

I would guess urine would be detectable for the longest period of the two. With steroids they don't test for the actual hormone, they test for their metabolites, which are excreted in urine.

Actually with testosterone the urine test can't differ from synthetic and natural, so they have to test your epitestosterone to testosterone ratio, which normally would be 4:1. So technically, you can stay on test but would have to limit yourself to 70-100mg a week, to be on the safe side and still pass the test.

champcar99
18-01-2009, 09:01 AM
wow I have seen it all NOW we are giving wanna-b cops advice...what next you guys are going to hook him up ...jeezez ****

champcar99
18-01-2009, 11:37 AM
"It's for policing. I don't see why they would but basically if they do and I fail, I can kiss my dreams goodbye with all services."




I have a real big problem with this dude... YOU DREAM TO BE A COP... so if you became a cop would you use them again ? and if so that would make you a crooked cop...Yea what the world needs is another crooked cop...

Led Hed
18-01-2009, 04:39 PM
"It's for policing. I don't see why they would but basically if they do and I fail, I can kiss my dreams goodbye with all services."




I have a real big problem with this dude... YOU DREAM TO BE A COP... so if you became a cop would you use them again ? and if so that would make you a crooked cop...Yea what the world needs is another crooked cop...
Honestly man, I don't care if you have a problem with this or not. I asked some questions and if you don't feel the urge to answer them but besmirch my character, then that's pretty sad. I'm a good person and my use of these drugs doesn't or wouldn't make me a 'crooked' cop. My drug use has nothing to do with helping the community that I live in or my desire to make my community safer.

champcar99
18-01-2009, 05:11 PM
"besmirch my character, then that's pretty sad. I'm a good person and my use of these drugs doesn't or wouldn't make me a 'crooked' cop. My drug use has nothing to do with helping the community that I live in or my desire to make my community safer."

Give me a ****ING BREAK wanna b copper...."besmirch my character" keep talking juiceing cop...what you want to do and what you have done is illegal, there for you shouldnt be a cop...( buying steroids) you have and want to break the law and if by chance you get nailed doing juice while being a cop and your job is on the line either give up your supplier or lose it all my bet is the supplier is going to get busted...yea I am a juicer cop and I am here to uphold the law...You don't fool me copper, you think being the big cop on the block is going to make you a better HERO in your community busting people ,making your community safer all while you are shooting steroids into your body...LETS GET THIS STRAIGHT YOU WANT TO LIE ON YOUR APPLICATION TRY TO FIND A FASTER WAY TO CLEAN YOUR SYSTEM FROM ILLEGAL DRUGS AND YOU ARE TELLING ME AND EVERYONE HERE THAT YOU WILL NOT B A CROOKED COP...you just keep besmirch your own character crooked cop ... I AM GOING TO AND HAVE BROKEN THE LAW BUT IT DOESNT MAKE ME A CROOKED COP....TOO ****ING FUNNY PIGGY,.....save your bullshit and lies for your future employer .....

Led Hed
18-01-2009, 05:24 PM
I'm done here. Thanks for everyone who helped answer my questions.

champcar99
18-01-2009, 05:36 PM
For Good I Hope.....no Hard Feelings Copper........hahahahaha

Monka
18-01-2009, 07:59 PM
I think if you KNOW your going to be tested,probably best to just quit for a while if tests are way in future and you still use then fast acting is best imo. like a suspension/or a prop. All i can say, is go to your doctor, and ask for blook work. this will show where you are, or not sure but i think you can pay for testing of steroids in the body. Your doctor should be able to help there i'd say.