View Full Version : Does anyone really CARE if they have to be put on HRT?
People are always saying to me like its a bad thing.
"If you do steroids you'll end up being put on HRT for life" and all that
Now im young, and i know doing AAS at my age especially can certainly cause this. But am i wrong to not be worried about it? I see absolutely nothing wrong with getting human grade Test prescriptions throughout life.
I planned on trying to get on HRT when i was older anyway as soon as my natural test levels were low enough to qualify.
This isnt a thread debating my age or flaming my age and my decision to use AAS. As I've been through all that before, so spare it.
im 18 by the way.
Yes your like me not afraid to die,live in the moment.Just take a big long cycle and when your in your mid twenty come off with no taper or PCT then get some blood work on your Test levels and bam you will get a script for Depo Cyp,or Delatestryl.
Bowlcut
13-01-2009, 11:13 PM
I would suggest not getting on HRT unless you have to, but I have no regrets.
Yes your like me not afraid to die,live in the moment.Just take a big long cycle and when your in your mid twenty come off with no taper or PCT then get some blood work on your Test levels and bam you will get a script for Depo Cyp,or Delatestryl.
Hahaha. I think im sensing sarcasm there.
But just to clear it up, im not abusing or using like an idiot or anything.
Im doing average length and dosed cycles, just like everyone else, pcting properly, no cruising whatsoever. Basically everyone i can do to make sure im recovering frequently.
I'm staying on for xtra time......i'm 30 and have had low test for the last year so i dont give a shit....as long as my bloodwork is ok i'll be stayin on til summer.......
Hahaha. I think im sensing sarcasm there.
But just to clear it up, im not abusing or using like an idiot or anything.
Im doing average length and dosed cycles, just like everyone else, pcting properly, no cruising whatsoever. Basically everyone i can do to make sure im recovering frequently.
Ya i had a friend take Testorviron back in the day at 500mg a week,and he tapered with Clomid,and Proviron,and Hcg,and went for a test and he still had low test so they put him on Depo-test.
waderow
13-01-2009, 11:26 PM
if i was 18, and knew what i know now, I wouldnt do roids, but I would eat properly. I would likely be in the NFL had I ate like an athlete back in the day.
That being said, I dabbled in roids at age 18. Didnt know jack shit, and had very few resources back then.
Now, things are a lot better with the internet, and PCT knowledge.
Bro, goodluck, but at your age, diet, nutrician and timing is more important than gear.
now to the point of the thread, sub q oil injections are becoming popular in europe, and the trt crowd, and I am actually pumped for it.
My next cycle will include sub q oil jabs
I dont mind IM jabs, but to be honest, for the rest of my life blasting a 1 1/2" dart in my ass and quad isnt something i would look forward too. A sub q belly shot...no prblemo. I PLAN in taking HGH for life, so I will just add in some trt human grade test E into fray.
Old-Dog
13-01-2009, 11:27 PM
Read my thread "When the juice stops working"...
I'm 34 and wondered if it has been worth it.
At 18, I was eating Blister Pack DBOL as if they were a new candy.
By 24, I was running massive amounts of DBOL, DECA, TEST.
By 28, I learned about cutters, T3 and GH.
Now, 34, I just had the worst cycle of my life, I am sick as dog and my insides hurt like hell.
Was it worth to be a lil pit-bull for 10 years....I am still debating.
I won't lie to ya, at 18, all I cared about was being the biggest, ****ing the most sluts possible and fighting anyone who would go.
Give er Bro, just remember, you will get old and things break down.
natenator
13-01-2009, 11:29 PM
Read my thread "When the juice stops working"...
I'm 34 and wondered if it has been worth it.
At 18, I was eating Blister Pack DBOL as if they were a new candy.
By 24, I was running massive amounts of DBOL, DECA, TEST.
By 28, I learned about cutters, T3 and GH.
Now, 34, I just had the worst cycle of my life, I am sick as dog and my insides hurt like hell.
Was it worth to be a lil pit-bull for 10 years....I am still debating.
I won't lie to ya, at 18, all I cared about was being the biggest, ****ing the most sluts possible and fighting anyone who would go.
Give er Bro, just remember, you will get old and things break down.
Word. You can't undo the abuse of our bodies and make no mistake what we do to our bodies is abuse.
Kronis
13-01-2009, 11:43 PM
I plan on going on TRT as soon as my natty test levels drop, which hopefully won't be until I'm 35 or so (over a decade away). As long as I can still have kids that's really all I care about.
nitrous
14-01-2009, 12:23 AM
I am planning on jumping on some test in a bit myself and done a ton of research and only going on for 15 weeks and going to have a proper pct. and i am sure that that wont be the last cycle obviously.. but i am hoping i wont be on HRT for life or if i will that it wont be for a very long time.. im only 24 right now
faller
14-01-2009, 01:07 AM
I've been on TRT now for about 4 year's. First pin was at age 46 and i love it! The only downside for me is always worrying about supply with everything that has been going on.
I remember back in the early 80's when i first dabbled in AAS. This was in Calgary, i just went to a doc. and he wrote up a script and i even went to the clinic for my shot's. Sigh,,,,,those were the days..
NorthOf60
14-01-2009, 01:34 AM
IMO. With all the baby boomers getting up in age now, there will be big changes to getting HGH. The boomers have a lot of money and power and want to live and stay young forever. The boomers have the power and influence force the government to change the laws.
Read my thread "When the juice stops working"...
I'm 34 and wondered if it has been worth it.
At 18, I was eating Blister Pack DBOL as if they were a new candy.
By 24, I was running massive amounts of DBOL, DECA, TEST.
By 28, I learned about cutters, T3 and GH.
Now, 34, I just had the worst cycle of my life, I am sick as dog and my insides hurt like hell.
Was it worth to be a lil pit-bull for 10 years....I am still debating.
I won't lie to ya, at 18, all I cared about was being the biggest, ****ing the most sluts possible and fighting anyone who would go.
Give er Bro, just remember, you will get old and things break down.
Ya i started at 18,the only thing i did wrong was my diet wasn't good until i was 24.But i'm off to go see the doctor for a blood test.All we can do now is take safer compounds with less side effect.I know how you feel about your insides,i now takes the safer compounds,no more d-bol,or anadrol.T-bol,var are my fav orals.
I will be persuing HRT when I get older.
Solo59
14-01-2009, 10:31 AM
IMO. With all the baby boomers getting up in age now, there will be big changes to getting HGH. The boomers have a lot of money and power and want to live and stay young forever. The boomers have the power and influence force the government to change the laws.
Here's a boomer who didn't begin cycling until he was 47. I've cycled carefully since then, always checking my bloodwork to make sure I returned to normal testosterone levels before cycling again. I've lasted well. Now that i turn 59 in about a month, however, I have finally allowed myself to be put on Androgel®. I did not yet fully recover from last summer's cycle and, besides, how much natural Test is going to run through my body in my 60s? I figure I may as well get on board the TRT train and keep doing careful cycles as long as I can. Told I don't look too bad for an oldster:rolleyes:. (And, yes, I'm on hGH pretty well all the time.)
Solo
Old-Dog
14-01-2009, 02:59 PM
You know, after this heavy I cycle, I am positive I will not be exceeding bulk cycle dosages ever again.
Nor heavy compounds.
I am doing a complete body clense over the next 3 months.
I cant imagaine what comes out of me...
So in short, 18-25---Go nuts, but, make sure you at least cycle on and off throughout the year.
Keep this mind-You may develop 25 inch arms by 30 years old, but you dont bang chicks with your tricep.
Just use common sense.
nisser
14-01-2009, 08:16 PM
That's a dangerous question to be asking yourself at 18. I'm serious...no good can come from it.
my 2c
drdnj
14-01-2009, 09:21 PM
[QUOTE=waderow;118364]if i was 18, and knew what i know now, I wouldnt do roids, but I would eat properly. I would likely be in the NFL had I ate like an athlete back in the day.
That being said, I dabbled in roids at age 18. Didnt know jack shit, and had very few resources back then.
Now, things are a lot better with the internet, and PCT knowledge.
Bro, goodluck, but at your age, diet, nutrician and timing is more important than gear.
I am with you 100% on this...my experience EXACTLY (except football)....knowledge is key!
spiderman7
14-01-2009, 09:27 PM
Would you want to watch 10 channels of TV when you have been use to 100 different channels before being cut off? Then why would you not want to keep your youthful test levels until you die. Plus test at trt doses does have some health benefits for longevity. Plus think of all the tail you will get at the Seniors Residence.
Keep this mind-You may develop 25 inch arms by 30 years old, but you dont bang chicks with your tricep.
speak for yourself im all about sex with foreign limbs
Kronis
15-01-2009, 01:39 AM
speak for yourself im all about sex with foreign limbs
DK716 is all about the freaky shit. I've seen him go calf deep in a bitch.
At 18 you don't need gear, period. Argue with me all you want about how educated you are, how you're different than the other 18 year olds.. Blah blah blah. I don't give a ****, you're too young and immature. I'm not speaking to you directly either, but EVERY 18 year old is too young and immature.
With that being said, I could give a shit less if I have to be on gear for the rest of my life to function. I use fairly moderate doses, I get my blood work done regularly, and haven't been off for the last 10 months.. And to be perfectly honest, I don't have intentions of coming off for at least another 10 either.
I like what gear does to me, I like what I does for how I feel on a day-to-day basis, and I love what it does for my training.. If my bloodwork ever came back grossly out of line obviously I'd re-think things, but as long as it keeps coming back in normal ranges I might as well keep it rolling.
I Agree with you, i dont need to be on gear, and shouldnt be at my age.
I went on at the wrong time and i knew it. I just got into it all so fast.
i started researching at like 16 or something whatever i can remember, originally planned on waiting till 25. that went down to 21 by the time i was 17, by the time i was 18, i had a well known legit source, decided id get my stuff incase my source went belly up and i had to start again, but still thought i was gonna wait till 19-20 (i know, stupid haha, buy the stuff 2 years in advance)
then next thing i know, i feel mentally ready to do it, i have my gear, i have a good base, even though gains were coming. it was enough for me at the time to justify it and go through with it.
Talked myself out of it, and figured "ok im gonna at LEAST wait till im 19 now" so i figured, not buying the needles till im 19. Next thing you know, patience ran out.
Here i am.
just my 2 cc's(thats right, i stole it from you haha)
Solo59
15-01-2009, 04:27 PM
I've been on TRT now for about 4 year's. First pin was at age 46 and i love it! The only downside for me is always worrying about supply with everything that has been going on....
Are you talking about pharmacy supplies or the more discreet, privately obtainable kind?
Solo
tiramisu
15-01-2009, 04:57 PM
Being already well over the hill hrt is a pretty obvious improvement in quality of life from my perspective. Having the hormonal levels of a 40 year old in my 20's or 30's would have been a pain in the ass and truthfully HRT is no definitely no substitute for the vigour of youth.
As I am neither in my 20's or 30's it is however a better than the alternative.
Drummer
15-01-2009, 08:07 PM
i care. i dont want my body so changed that it cant produce its own hormones to achieve homeostasis.
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