next cycle

[oharad]

ok guys here is my history:

cycle 1 : sust 250 + deca 200mg wkly for 8 wks

cycle 2 : dbol (40mg 2* daily) for 5 wks clen and T3 for 2 on 2 off (all in all 10 wk) I know i knwo i was young and dumb

cycle 3: 750mg ICN test 600mg deca wks 1-12 40mg
dbol wk 1-5

cycle 4: 2 shots TNT wk 1-16 600mg EQ wk 1-14 anadrol wk 1-4 tbol wk 14-18

Cycle 5: longest cycle yet .... get ready
wk 1-4 100mg prop eod
2shot TNT

wk 5-10 2 shots TNT

wk 11-12 2 shot TNT
400mg mast enth

wk 13-20 100mg prop EOD
400mg mast
added in Halo at 40mg ED for last 4 wks and winni at 50mg


Found longer cycle work much better for me. Prop in EO is tolerable for pain and keeps me dryer. Tren makes me very strong and moody...anadrol makes me strong and bloated as does dbol.Tbol was not effective for me.

So here is what I am looking at starting in mid Feb

wk 1-4 1cc profina EOD
wk 5-8 1 cc profina EOD 50mg winni ED
wk 9-12 1CC profina EOD 2 shot mast enth wkly
wk 13-16 1cc profina EOD 2 shots mast enth wkly 50mg WInni ED
wk 17-19 1CC profina EOD 2 shots mast enth wkly
wk 20-25 1CC profina EOD 2 shots mast enth wkly 40mg halotestin ED

my main goal is to get lean hard and ripped through out the summer. My concern is running Tren that long and also having trouble tracking down some mast enth.

feel free to post on thread.... but pls do not provide source info on thread...
thanks

[waderow]

if youre looking for opinions,
I am never doing winny again. It can kiss my ass. Last 50mg ever will be in two hours.
what is the dosage of profina? 150 test, 100 tren?

thats long. Major long, and everyone here will say it is too long except me :)

what are you going to do afterwards to get your hpta going? or are you going to cruise and just not come off

probably not the most healthy of cycles, but yeah, if youre looking for rock hard lean vascular LOL I would love to see some before after pics.

Kidneys will take a shit kicking on this cycle I think, so I would be making sure to take in a few litres of water a day, and a couple cups of pure cranberry juice/ Pure from the organic shop pure. Not Pure from safeway pure.

edit out your source request bro

[oharad]

yeah i woudl like to drop the tren from wk 13-19 .... if any line made mast and prop combo that'd be WICKED!!!!

...may even cause me to make a substance that looks like injectable Winni hahahaha


gonna do HCG in the final wks of cycle (not sure when i will start or at what dose)

then clomid 2 days after last poke 100mg ED for 21 days

and letro for estrogen side.... gonne do 1/2cc letro E3D for the entire cycle

[oharad]

open to suggestions on PCT issue ...anyone? Gus?

[Redz]

I would say 6-8 weeks pct with HCG through the last few weeks of the cycle. Clomid/Nolva/Aromasin.

[Big D]

if you can afford it use HCG thru the entire cycle. it will help you recover abit quicker. so you dont find that cycle a little long ?

[Redz]

It is a very long cycle, I run 12 weekers usually. But many people are succesful with the longer cycles.

[oharad]

yeah it is a long cycle. But I have found 12 wks and under are not effective for me. My 20 Wker was most effective for me.

not running hcg all the way through. Will run in last few wks tho. I will be on 5 months.... ending the end of august. So I plan to be off for sept oct nov for sure. possibly until mid Jan.

nvr run hcg before but done a fair deal of reading on it.

So I am thinking HCG, clomid, and letro for pct

[Redz]

Letro is overly supressive to use during pct. There is also an estrogen rebound when you come off of Letro. I would sugest a different ai and also nolva.

[gustavo77]

yeah it is a long cycle. But I have found 12 wks and under are not effective for me. My 20 Wker was most effective for me.

not running hcg all the way through. Will run in last few wks tho. I will be on 5 months.... ending the end of august. So I plan to be off for sept oct nov for sure. possibly until mid Jan.

nvr run hcg before but done a fair deal of reading on it.

So I am thinking HCG, clomid, and letro for pct

Bro, do not use HCG for pct. Run it all the way through your cycle or at the very least, start it a few weeks in. Shut down begins from the very first shot or pill of AAS that you take. Always keep that in mind.

If you run HCG and a SERM together, you are wasting the SERM. HCG mimics and suppresses natural LH production, exactly what you are trying to increase production of with the use of clomid. It will not happen though, LH production will remained suppressed during HCG use and even for 4-5 days after your last dose.

So, this is what i recommend. It is what i have used and found effective.

HCG 250-500iu every 4-5 days or simply twice per week on cycle. Use the HCG right up till 5 days before you start your pct drugs. PCT is simple:

Day 1-21 Clomid 50mg/day
Day 1-35 Aromasin 25mg per day