hgh 10iu's a day

[mikeok]

Alright folks just a quick story and question
I diet down twice a year when i wanna look good for a event Im by no means fat but on a normal day i have a small belly(im 6f1 232lbs you can only see my top 2 abs) Anyways ive learnt by lowering my carbs and doing 45-75min of cardio(usually walking on a highincline treadmill) i can trim down to about 219 and look pretty damn ripped. id say i get down to around 9-11%bf. Anyways i always use gh when i do this in fact im prob on hgh 8 months a year and usually run 2-5ius a day however last time i tried running 10ius a day for the last 4 weeks of my diet and i must say the results were friggin crazy. Not only did i get lean but i was much fuller and much more muscular . My skin tone was nuts it was pretty crazy. Im dieting again and am gonna run 10ius a day from now till april ill keep posted on the results and i have taken some before and after pics.
Anyways my question is this (finally lol) Who hear has run 10ius and for how long and whut were ur results like.
Also im sorry how this paragraph is written lol its kinda all just thrown on here but i didnt wanna forget anything

[Mr Ontario]

10 ius all at once is a good way to tell if legit or not :)

[mikeok]

5in the morning 5 at night lol

[Mr Ontario]

I would go 5ius in the A.M sometime and 5ius right after you work out!

[gsxr750]

2400iu/s a year wow! big spender! Can you adopt me I haven't ate in 4 months help

What brands have you tried and liked?

[Mr Ontario]

time to get a real job :)


2400iu/s a year wow! big spender! Can you adopt me I haven't ate in 4 months help

What brands have you tried and liked?

[St]

10iu is nice,but if you have more coin go 12ui haha,shit make 16iu haha.
Okay back to the question what brand?
I think 6-8iu is more than enough,but seen many do amzing on 4iu.

[mikeok]

I use the somnatropin kits the blue boxes
however for my last three weeks of dieting this time im gonna switch to the nortropin pens (been saving them for a while) and maybe some nutropin aq
ive tried almost every brand out there
original jins they were good

last years jins were not that good

serostim very good

nutropin and nortropin pens phenomenal but would only recommend if your very lean the main difference between these and cheaper brands is they dont cause any water retention

humatrope the best but once again see above

HCG the original all black boxes from a year ago were awesome The new stuff isnt nearly as good.

Blue Caps complete waste of money theres 5and a half ius per bottle max people think because its so cheap its worth it but it isnt hell its probably more expensive then reg gh when u realise that there underdosing it bigtime people also think its working cause there hands hurt its 192 chain 1 iu a day of 192 chain will make uir hands hurt

russian arctropin cant really say only ran 1 kit a cpl friends used it and they said it worked as good as the old hcg boxes i didnt really notice anything but then again that could be a good thing as i was on other gh before kinda freaked me out though when i noticed the bottles in the boxes werent always the same size and sometimes it would change colours when u added water sometimes it would stay clear

somnatropin blue boxes prob the best hgh on the market now in terms of quality vs price have been using it since it came out as well as lots of freinds and can say i friggin luv it

oh yeah and heres a cpl of rules of thumb when using hgh
keep in mind this is just stuff ive noticed on myself when experimenting with different things im not trying to act like a steroid kingpin telling u what will and wont happen and work

gh and a reg diet works ok but if switch to a low carb diet (i stop eating carbs by 3pm and the onkly carbs i consume are oatmeal and rice) the gh works phenomenally well. I mean its crazy the results are night and day i can eat meat all day long and just get bigger and leaner

if i use gh with any slow acting test or nandrolene product or heavy oral(dbol drol) i get fat and retain tons of water more then i would with out gh

the last thing i learnt is after using gh and doing a major diet and steroid cutting cycle once i start eating normal again ill shoot 2ius of hgh a day and run 50 mcg of igf1 a day for 30 days and ill get super veiny and vascular (i wont be as shredded but ill be bigger)

and um yeah i learnt this in oct if i get hurt and cant train for three months and let my diet go to shit even if im using 4 ius of gh everyday ill still get fat lol

[gustavo77]

I use the somnatropin kits the blue boxes

Who is somnatropin made by??

Have to disagree with you on the blue tops...there are some decent ones out there for great prices. They are of course not dosed like Euro and North American Pharm grade GH....but neither was that kit of re-labeled yellow tops called Hardcore that i use a couple of months ago. The last kit of blues i did was FAR better than those re-labeled yellow tops called Hardcore...

[shithead]

I use the somnatropin kits the blue boxes
however for my last three weeks of dieting this time im gonna switch to the nortropin pens (been saving them for a while) and maybe some nutropin aq
ive tried almost every brand out there
original jins they were good

last years jins were not that good

serostim very good

nutropin and nortropin pens phenomenal but would only recommend if your very lean the main difference between these and cheaper brands is they dont cause any water retention

humatrope the best but once again see above

HCG the original all black boxes from a year ago were awesome The new stuff isnt nearly as good.

Blue Caps complete waste of money theres 5and a half ius per bottle max people think because its so cheap its worth it but it isnt hell its probably more expensive then reg gh when u realise that there underdosing it bigtime people also think its working cause there hands hurt its 192 chain 1 iu a day of 192 chain will make uir hands hurt

russian arctropin cant really say only ran 1 kit a cpl friends used it and they said it worked as good as the old hcg boxes i didnt really notice anything but then again that could be a good thing as i was on other gh before kinda freaked me out though when i noticed the bottles in the boxes werent always the same size and sometimes it would change colours when u added water sometimes it would stay clear

somnatropin blue boxes prob the best hgh on the market now in terms of quality vs price have been using it since it came out as well as lots of freinds and can say i friggin luv it

oh yeah and heres a cpl of rules of thumb when using hgh
keep in mind this is just stuff ive noticed on myself when experimenting with different things im not trying to act like a steroid kingpin telling u what will and wont happen and work

gh and a reg diet works ok but if switch to a low carb diet (i stop eating carbs by 3pm and the onkly carbs i consume are oatmeal and rice) the gh works phenomenally well. I mean its crazy the results are night and day i can eat meat all day long and just get bigger and leaner

if i use gh with any slow acting test or nandrolene product or heavy oral(dbol drol) i get fat and retain tons of water more then i would with out gh

the last thing i learnt is after using gh and doing a major diet and steroid cutting cycle once i start eating normal again ill shoot 2ius of hgh a day and run 50 mcg of igf1 a day for 30 days and ill get super veiny and vascular (i wont be as shredded but ill be bigger)

and um yeah i learnt this in oct if i get hurt and cant train for three months and let my diet go to shit even if im using 4 ius of gh everyday ill still get fat lol


I havent tried the new HCG GH, but the old black boxes were the cats meow.

These were extremely potent to the point of almost going to the doc due to insane CT syndrome. Even driving my car, I wouldnt be able to feel my hands. At the time it had me crazy scared, I cut back the dose and it still took two weeks for the sides to subside.

If the new kits dont compare, it makes me sad. Should've stockpiled those suckers.

[mikeok]

Who is somnatropin made by??

Have to disagree with you on the blue tops...there are some decent ones out there for great prices. They are of course not dosed like Euro and North American Pharm grade GH....but neither was that kit of re-labeled yellow tops called Hardcore that i use a couple of months ago. The last kit of blues i did was FAR better than those re-labeled yellow tops called Hardcore...

i hate the blue caps i have never seen any that are properly dosed except for maybe the original generic ones that came out of china 2 years ago but yeah the new hardcore stuff sucks 2 right now its nothing compared to the original hardcore black boxes
dont worry about not stocking up though the somnatropin blue boxes are more potent then the original hardcore

[gustavo77]

I havent tried the new HCG GH, but the old black boxes were the cats meow.

These were extremely potent to the point of almost going to the doc due to insane CT syndrome. Even driving my car, I wouldnt be able to feel my hands. At the time it had me crazy scared, I cut back the dose and it still took two weeks for the sides to subside.

If the new kits dont compare, it makes me sad. Should've stockpiled those suckers.

Mabe my kit of HCG was not handled properly or something cause as soon as i switched to a kit of blues i had, same dose, the cts kicked in within days...had no sides from the HCG GH.

[mikeok]

thats cause all blues are generic 192 chain aa hgh
and 192 chain hgh is notorious for causing cps and doses of even 1iu a day
where as u can use boatloads of 191 chain without feeling cts
thats the biggest misconception with hgh people think cause there hands hurt its working and the more there hands hurt the better its working

[shithead]

I'm not quite sure everything you say is truth.

Are you a national competitor?

How do you access and afford all this gh, esp. the pharmacy stuff? Nutropin is crazy expensive.

[shithead]

thats cause all blues are generic 192 chain aa hgh
and 192 chain hgh is notorious for causing cps and doses of even 1iu a day
where as u can use boatloads of 191 chain without feeling cts
thats the biggest misconception with hgh people think cause there hands hurt its working and the more there hands hurt the better its working

Well then, why did the black box HCG GH cause me to have CTS?

[shithead]

I asked a highly respected doctor about this and he said that potent gh will cause swollen limbs. That this what was causing the severe cts as the edema was pinching the median nerve in my wrist.

I'm not an expert but I will check with a sports physician and get back tomorrow.

Maybe I'm wrong.

[mikeok]

lol i aint lying dude i hate people who lie on these boards
i can afford it cause im lucky enough to have a great job with a great salary
and honestly its not that expensive nutropin costs around 9 bucks per iu if u shop around thats 900 bucks for a month supply in ur running 4ius a day like most people
as for u getting cts on the black boxes good question i almost never get it on 191 aa only on 192 aa but thats me i guess everyones different
the only reason i mention the blue caps causeing it is because i know 192 aa really causes it bad

[gustavo77]

thats cause all blues are generic 192 chain aa hgh
and 192 chain hgh is notorious for causing cps and doses of even 1iu a day
where as u can use boatloads of 191 chain without feeling cts
thats the biggest misconception with hgh people think cause there hands hurt its working and the more there hands hurt the better its working

Getting CTS depends on the person, it has nothing to do with 192AA GH. Some people simply do not get many sides from GH. I know a few bros like that.

Not sure about the blue tops you tried but the ones i had were definitely 191AA. I have also used Hygetropin which was DEFINITIVELY tested as 191AA on B.O.S. and it gave me CTS symptoms too...

Again you never answered me as to what company makes this Somnatropin you speak of. Is it made by a legit pharm company?? If not, it is most likely re-labeled Chinese GH just like the HCG is re-labeled Chinese yellow top GH. I'd speculate to say that 95% of the GH on the market is Chinese. Either in the form of newly labeled, generic (unlabeled) or being sold with counterfeit pharm grade company labels.

[Descimus]

Hcg suck right now? awwwww mannnnnn....

[Stonewald Rockwater]

lol i aint lying dude i hate people who lie on these boards
i can afford it cause im lucky enough to have a great job with a great salary
and honestly its not that expensive nutropin costs around 9 bucks per iu if u shop around thats 900 bucks for a month supply in ur running 4ius a day like most people
as for u getting cts on the black boxes good question i almost never get it on 191 aa only on 192 aa but thats me i guess everyones different
the only reason i mention the blue caps causeing it is because i know 192 aa really causes it bad

Hey man, thanks for sharing your info, stick around bro.

nurtropin is very expensive, i have its really good. I may try some in the future.

[Mr Ontario]

No price discussion :)


lol i aint lying dude i hate people who lie on these boards
i can afford it cause im lucky enough to have a great job with a great salary
and honestly its not that expensive nutropin costs around 9 bucks per iu if u shop around thats 900 bucks for a month supply in ur running 4ius a day like most people
as for u getting cts on the black boxes good question i almost never get it on 191 aa only on 192 aa but thats me i guess everyones different
the only reason i mention the blue caps causeing it is because i know 192 aa really causes it bad

[natenator]

10 ius all at once is a good way to tell if legit or not :)
I did it twice and I regretted the 2nd day. Fak were my joints ever sore, went hypo and tingly hands.

[natenator]

Alright folks just a quick story and question
I diet down twice a year when i wanna look good for a event Im by no means fat but on a normal day i have a small belly(im 6f1 232lbs you can only see my top 2 abs) Anyways ive learnt by lowering my carbs and doing 45-75min of cardio(usually walking on a highincline treadmill) i can trim down to about 219 and look pretty damn ripped. id say i get down to around 9-11%bf. Anyways i always use gh when i do this in fact im prob on hgh 8 months a year and usually run 2-5ius a day however last time i tried running 10ius a day for the last 4 weeks of my diet and i must say the results were friggin crazy. Not only did i get lean but i was much fuller and much more muscular . My skin tone was nuts it was pretty crazy. Im dieting again and am gonna run 10ius a day from now till april ill keep posted on the results and i have taken some before and after pics.
Anyways my question is this (finally lol) Who hear has run 10ius and for how long and whut were ur results like.
Also im sorry how this paragraph is written lol its kinda all just thrown on here but i didnt wanna forget anything
my question is how do you afford 10IU/day?

I make damn good money and am sure I could afford that amount each day I am not saure I could justify it. That's about $1K/month. If had to spend $4K (for 4 months) on something I think I would rather spend it on a vacation somewhere instead of GH or any other drug.

[canadianmuscle0803]

i do 8iu/day in one shot in the morning.. love it.

[canadianmuscle0803]

how he affords it is his business.. stop being noisy :)

[Descimus]

lol yeah wtf..

[Big D]

i do 8iu/day in one shot in the morning.. love it.

how do you afford it ???? do you sell your body ?


Kidding


I have to agree, it his business no one should ask him how he affords it .

[natenator]

how do you afford it ???? do you sell your body ?


Kidding


I have to agree, it his business no one should ask him how he affords it .
I guess I'm just leery of people coming on posting such things and thinking they are a source trying to get someone to PM him.

I am likely wrong but I like to keep my rose coloured glasses off :)

[Big D]

I guess I'm just leery of people coming on posting such things and thinking they are a source trying to get someone to PM him.

I am likely wrong but I like to keep my rose coloured glasses off :)

I totally understand bro

[icey_boi]

hey bro! if your running 10ui a day. may i sugets you try out the 10/10 gh and slin protacol. take it post work out on workout days. i have heard nothing but the absolute best reviews about that aproach!. and if Mallet would ever chime in on this board he would deffo be seconding this post. as he is a big fan of the 10/10 post workout protocol... mind that is when he isnt using 20ui post work out LOL

just my 2 cents

-icey

[icey_boi]

mind you im assuming you have experience with slin. but even if you dont 10 ui post work out with the proper intake of carbs is TOTALY safe to do my friend

[canadianmuscle0803]

mind you im assuming you have experience with slin. but even if you dont 10 ui post work out with the proper intake of carbs is TOTALY safe to do my friend

i agree, this is an absolute mass builder, especially when accompanied by 1 gram of test and some tren or deca..

[St]

Here is a pic of the best GH out there only the rich can do this.

[icey_boi]

i agree, this is an absolute mass builder, especially when accompanied by 1 gram of test and some tren or deca..

yes sir! you said it.

and not only is it the most superior combo of peptides in my eyes but it builds LEAN mass that you will keep.

[drdnj]

my question is how do you afford 10IU/day?

I make damn good money and am sure I could afford that amount each day I am not saure I could justify it. That's about $1K/month. If had to spend $4K (for 4 months) on something I think I would rather spend it on a vacation somewhere instead of GH or any other drug.

Bro, its a matter of income and priorities.....

[mikeok]

somnatropins are relabled yellowtops from china which are just amazing best hgh outta china iv ever used
and yes the pens are awesome like i said im saving mine till the last three weeks of my diet and running ten ius a day of just that
ive never tried slin always been super afraid of it
i do love igf1 hgh combo
i might try ten ius a day with 100mcg very soon

[gustavo77]

somnatropins are relabled yellowtops from china which are just amazing best hgh outta china iv ever used...

So they are the same as the HCG GH just with a different label...lol...

You say they are the best Chinese GH you have ever tried, I guess you have not tried hygetropin then...cause aside from legit Jintropin, Hygetropin is the best Chinese GH...many, many people will agree with me on this. ;)

[mikeok]

actually i havent tried it yet
ive never seen it in my province now i want some lol

[gustavo77]

actually i havent tried it yet
ive never seen it in my province now i want some lol

I just want to say that i am not trying to being argumentative with you bro, i am trying to expose what these people are doing. These sources are re-labeling generic Chinese GH and charging a ton for it. Shady bus. practices IMHO.

[pcruiser73]

I did a little investigating and found out that Somnatropin = HCG GH = Jintropin. I was sent this lab analysis from HardCoreGrowth themselves upon my inquiry. BTW they do have a website and they will talk to you.

CERTIFICATE OF ANALYSIS

Product:Recombinant Human Growth Hormone for Injection(r-hGH)
Capacity: 10IU/vial
Batch No.:20081011
Preparation:Lyophilized Powder Mfg.Data:2008/10/11
Basis:USP29nf24 Standard? EP5 Exp.Data:2010/10/11

TEST SPECIFICATION RESULT
Identification Positive Passed
Characters White or almost white powder Passed
Pipetide mapping Similar to the standard sample Passed
pH 6.5-8.5 6.86
Assay(HPLC) As 95.0-110.0% of the marked dosage 98.2%
Bioidentity ?0.40 Passed
Water Content ?5.0% 2.0%
Microbiao limits ?300cfu/g None
Safety Test Mouse Test:Conformed Passed
Cavy Test:Conformed Passed
Bacterial Endotoxin ?5EU/mg 4.5 EU/mg
Dimers Content (HPLC)
SEse 1%~2% 1.2%
High Molecular
Protein(HPLC) ?4% 2.5%
Related Protein
Content(RP-HPLC) ?6.0% 4.3%
Potency 1.4±0.3IU/mg 3.0IU/mg
Conclusion Conformed with CP2000/WHO Standard?EP5


Potency would convert to 3.3mg/10IU with a variance of 0.3mg either way.


Just thought I would pass this on and see what you think.

[shivsean]

Potency would convert to 3.3mg/10IU with a variance of 0.3mg either way.

And this is where it should be.

Mike, no offense, but hundreds of Bro's swear by and count on Peps Blues, but you say they are underdosed? Can you send me the assay via PM:D?

[Stonewald Rockwater]

I did a little investigating and found out that Somnatropin = HCG GH = Jintropin. I was sent this lab analysis from HardCoreGrowth themselves upon my inquiry. BTW they do have a website and they will talk to you.

CERTIFICATE OF ANALYSIS

Product:Recombinant Human Growth Hormone for Injection(r-hGH)
Capacity: 10IU/vial
Batch No.:20081011
Preparation:Lyophilized Powder Mfg.Data:2008/10/11
Basis:USP29nf24 Standard? EP5 Exp.Data:2010/10/11

TEST SPECIFICATION RESULT
Identification Positive Passed
Characters White or almost white powder Passed
Pipetide mapping Similar to the standard sample Passed
pH 6.5-8.5 6.86
Assay(HPLC) As 95.0-110.0% of the marked dosage 98.2%
Bioidentity ?0.40 Passed
Water Content ?5.0% 2.0%
Microbiao limits ?300cfu/g None
Safety Test Mouse Test:Conformed Passed
Cavy Test:Conformed Passed
Bacterial Endotoxin ?5EU/mg 4.5 EU/mg
Dimers Content (HPLC)
SEse 1%~2% 1.2%
High Molecular
Protein(HPLC) ?4% 2.5%
Related Protein
Content(RP-HPLC) ?6.0% 4.3%
Potency 1.4±0.3IU/mg 3.0IU/mg
Conclusion Conformed with CP2000/WHO Standard?EP5


Potency would convert to 3.3mg/10IU with a variance of 0.3mg either way.


Just thought I would pass this on and see what you think.


i agree, this is very good gh, but what worries me is the vials are not vac sealed so the peptide has been exposed to air. degrading it

[gustavo77]

...but what worries me is the vials are not vac sealed so the peptide has been exposed to air. degrading it

Mabe they are getting the Jintropin rejects..lol... I do not know man, i tried 100iu of this GH at 5iu per day and i did not get any sides whatsoever. I not only found that there was no vaccuum in the vials but that it was actually hard to push in the b. water...there was a ton of air in each 10iu vial...

I'll stick with hygetropin and kefei...much cheaper and way more potent.

[ruskee]

I did a little investigating and found out that Somnatropin = HCG GH = Jintropin. I was sent this lab analysis from HardCoreGrowth themselves upon my inquiry. BTW they do have a website and they will talk to you.

CERTIFICATE OF ANALYSIS

Product:Recombinant Human Growth Hormone for Injection(r-hGH)
Capacity: 10IU/vial
Batch No.:20081011
Preparation:Lyophilized Powder Mfg.Data:2008/10/11
Basis:USP29nf24 Standard? EP5 Exp.Data:2010/10/11

TEST SPECIFICATION RESULT
Identification Positive Passed
Characters White or almost white powder Passed
Pipetide mapping Similar to the standard sample Passed
pH 6.5-8.5 6.86
Assay(HPLC) As 95.0-110.0% of the marked dosage 98.2%
Bioidentity ?0.40 Passed
Water Content ?5.0% 2.0%
Microbiao limits ?300cfu/g None
Safety Test Mouse Test:Conformed Passed
Cavy Test:Conformed Passed
Bacterial Endotoxin ?5EU/mg 4.5 EU/mg
Dimers Content (HPLC)
SEse 1%~2% 1.2%
High Molecular
Protein(HPLC) ?4% 2.5%
Related Protein
Content(RP-HPLC) ?6.0% 4.3%
Potency 1.4±0.3IU/mg 3.0IU/mg
Conclusion Conformed with CP2000/WHO Standard?EP5


Potency would convert to 3.3mg/10IU with a variance of 0.3mg either way.


Just thought I would pass this on and see what you think.



First off I would like to say that I am doing some research on HCG before I start using it because of how I feel about buying illigal stuff, specially that I will inject into my body, off websites.

Second I would like to say that I am a 3rd year Chemistry major and have been studying proteins (peptides) for years.

If you look under TEST SPECIFICATION results... 3 lines down it will say PIPETIDE MAPPING.... THIS IS A TYPO! It should be PEPTIDE mapping.... therefore if there is a typo, surely this document is a FAKE... and makes me think.... Why would you have to fake your TEST results if your product is legit?.....

*****Unless PCRUISER73 didn;tcopy and paste what the guys from HCG sent him, and decided to rewrite the results himself***

Has anyone else used the NEW HCG product form their website? Was it any good?

[gustavo77]

Pipetide?? That is some funny shit..

And as i said above, i was not happy with the HCG GH i used. I have to say though, that i did not get it directly from a source...it was actually given to me, no bullshit...so while changing hands it may not have been handled correctly...benefit of the doubt...

[ruskee]

Pipetide?? That is some funny shit..

And as i said above, i was not happy with the HCG GH i used. I have to say though, that i did not get it directly from a source...it was actually given to me, no bullshit...so while changing hands it may not have been handled correctly...benefit of the doubt...

Did you see any results at all? Im just starting... so perhaps the most potent GH is not requied for me... However, if the stuff you tried was fake... or just useless... please let me know. I am sure you know a lot more about GH than I at the moment. = )

[gustavo77]

Did you see any results at all? Im just starting... so perhaps the most potent GH is not requied for me... However, if the stuff you tried was fake... or just useless... please let me know. I am sure you know a lot more about GH than I at the moment. = )

No it is not fake and i have heard good feedback, so it may have been that the kit i used was just not handled properly...i only used one kit of it and was judging it by the side effects, ie stiff hands, carpal tunnel etc... That said, the HCG GH I used was definitely GH, just the potency seemed a little weak...but again this could have been due to improper handling..

[Praetorian]

The original HCG black boxes, yellow tops were fine...the newer ones i cannot vouch for as i havent used them....but it appears they are weaker
The generic blue tops were fine as well...if you got the from a reputable source....i have seen some bad ones.
The Somatropins are great...love the stuff...identical to the original jins.
The new Jins are good...but in limited supply.
The Saizen..beware and avoid nuff said
Keffei-supposedly work well...but appear to be 192aa
Serostim- pharm grade...great stuff...expensive
Humatrope- same as Serostim..very expensive
Nutropin..good stuff
P

[natenator]

I've always wondered... if someone has used kefei at 4IU/day and then switch to Hygetropin can they use less than they did with kefei due to them (apparently) being more potent?

[Praetorian]

I've always wondered... if someone has used kefei at 4IU/day and then switch to Hygetropin can they use less than they did with kefei due to them (apparently) being more potent?

I would have to say yes...with Pharm grade ie. Serostim GH one never really had to use more than 2-3 iu for fat loss and 6iu max for growth. Try this with lets cal it UG grade GH and you wont see anywhere near the results. The basic formula is for fat loss with UG grade you need 4iu daily and for growth 8-10iu daily minimum.
P

[ruskee]

Ok, so after doing TONS of research on hardcoregrowth hormone, I have read many many MANY reviews of people saying its good.... bad.... generic.

Time for the real test.

I have recently purchased my first kit from their WEBSITE ( which is also pretty sketchy since they deliver to Canada) and will start a cycle starting with 2 IU/day 5 days on weekends off

after 3 vials I will move to 2.5 IU/day (5 on 2 off)

4 vials later i will do 3 IU/Day ( 5 on 2 off)

I am not a big guy i am 5"6' 150 pounds 13% BF

If anyone has any recommendations as to how many months i should go for PLEASE let me know... never done any cycles before.


I will get back on my "experiment" roughly every 2 weeks.


so far i have yet to even recieve the package!
Tips and advice on my cycle would be GREATLY appreciated = )

[ruskee]

Got the Kit... VERY FAST shipping, so the website is legit.

Security label looks loose, didn't have to rip it to open the kit... Vial labels are loose too, perhaps relabeled.

Starting 1.5 IU 2morrow.

[canadianmuscle0803]

I would go 5ius in the A.M sometime and 5ius right after you work out!

agreed.

[canadianmuscle0803]

you got your GH off some sight who carries a no-name brand?

how do you even know you have any GH inside these vials? plus that price is dumb when you convert to Canadian dollar, shipping cost etc.

[ruskee]

you got your GH off some sight who carries a no-name brand?

how do you even know you have any GH inside these vials? plus that price is dumb when you convert to Canadian dollar, shipping cost etc.

its actually the HardcoreGrowth stuff people have been asking about.... I've done tons of research to find that some people have heard good things about it while others have not. I was told by an experienced member that it is infact Somatropin 191aa.

[ruskee]

Just started on my 3rd Vial.... still doing 2 IU a day. I am getting leaner, but I have also been doing intense cardio every day. I definatly need to up my dosage.

Got a new hook up on Getropin.... does anyone know if Getropin is any better than HardcoreGrowth?

[Mr Ontario]

that is not true and talked about many times here.


its actually the HardcoreGrowth stuff people have been asking about.... I've done tons of research to find that some people have heard good things about it while others have not. I was told by an experienced member that it is infact Somatropin 191aa.

[INked]

Never read through all the posts on this 10iu's/day but with a little T3/slin that seems a bit excessive.Not sure the bang is worth the buck kinda thing but then again what do know.

[ruskee]

that is not true and talked about many times here.


What is untrue?.... Are you saying HardcoreGrowth is not Somatropin 191aa at all?

I'm assuming I live near you Mr O, so please let me know if the HardcoreGrowth stuff im taking is fake. = S

[Solo59]

Having grown uncertain of my wheely-topped "hygetropin", I doubled my dose from an apparant 4 iu (half a bottle) to 8 iu ED (one bottle) for three weeks. Pretty sure I saw better results but still no sides at all. So recently, in desperation, I went up to two bottles for two nights (16 iu each night).

Had one of the worst nights of my life. Not talking difficult here, but really a ****ing horrible night. Soon as I drifted off, I awoke feeling stuffed, like the PB-banana shake I had at 9:30 p.m. had not gone down one inch. I felt bloated & nauseous. Absolutely could not piss. Pains on my right side where my liver is. But mostly just bloated & nauseous. Short, sweaty sleeps then awakening with wet eyes so I had to sit up. Last night, I went back to one bottle, but after two two-bottle nights, it seems that all my internal organs temporarily swelled up (stomach, intestines, liver, prostate, possibly the heart) so I could not digest or piss. Possible? It was a very bad night. But I've learned my lesson and that it is good or at least real GH, since swollen organs are a well-known side-effect of too much GH. Or does that only happen long term? I still feel way "off". No GH for a week anyway!

Solo

[canadianmuscle0803]

dude, why in the world would you do 16iu a day, the hyge you have are real but they are not the legit hyge, they are produced by another company which i wont list in a open forum, pm me if you want to know what lab makes the wheel tops, im on that GH right now at 8iu/day and i have all kinds of sides, water retention, swollen hands and ankles, very sore joints and numbness in hands/arms while i sleep..

[canadianmuscle0803]

What is untrue?.... Are you saying HardcoreGrowth is not Somatropin 191aa at all?

I'm assuming I live near you Mr O, so please let me know if the HardcoreGrowth stuff im taking is fake. = S

its fake.

[gustavo77]

its fake.

The hardcore growth GH is not fake bro...i've used it myself. It was not that potent but i am thinking the kit was not handled properly....it was definitely GH though..

[ruskee]

The hardcore growth GH is not fake bro...i've used it myself. It was not that potent but i am thinking the kit was not handled properly....it was definitely GH though..

The WEBSITE for hardcoregrowth.com is FAKE.... however, I've got the real hardcore stuff now and its nice. I alsot did a half kit og Getropin and it was GREAT stuff!

[phatkid77]

half a kit and you say GREAT!! how so...how many iu taking??

contemplated doing 2iu for 200days to see if i feel better, or fat loss...

phats

[force]

I have only tried GH once and can say that whoever said nutropin AQ will not make you hold water is off base! I ran 5iu/day and within a week I was up 6lbs and my hands and feet were swollen as hell...did I mention I was also running a keto diet and had been leaning out nicely until then.

I backed off the dose and was still swollen and bloated then gave up after 2 weeks, It sucked cause had a fair amount of the stuff and just sold it cheap to my buddies.

Guess Im one of the lucky few who just dont respond favorably to it.I will stick with gear.

Interesting reading in this thread though.

F.

[gustavo77]

The WEBSITE for hardcoregrowth.com is FAKE.... however, I've got the real hardcore stuff now and its nice. I alsot did a half kit og Getropin and it was GREAT stuff!

The hardcore kit i had was not fake bud....it had a 315.net sticker... Do you know what that is??? If not, i suggest you do some more research...

Gettropin is highly faked and even the real stuff does not have that great a feedback...

[gustavo77]

I have only tried GH once and can say that whoever said nutropin AQ will not make you hold water is off base! I ran 5iu/day and within a week I was up 6lbs and my hands and feet were swollen as hell...did I mention I was also running a keto diet and had been leaning out nicely until then.

I backed off the dose and was still swollen and bloated then gave up after 2 weeks, It sucked cause had a fair amount of the stuff and just sold it cheap to my buddies.

Guess Im one of the lucky few who just dont respond favorably to it.I will stick with gear.

Interesting reading in this thread though.

F.

Bro the reason you had such a bad experience with GH is cause you did not run it properly...you cannot start out @5iu of Pharm grade GH per day and think all will be well. You need to start out very slow...1iu per day for at least a week or two, then try 2iu for 2-4 weeks and the increase it by 1iu every 2-4 weeks till you reach your target dose...if the sides are not too bad you can increase the dose every couple of weeks but that all depends on how you respond...

[force]

Bro the reason you had such a bad experience with GH is cause you did not run it properly...you cannot start out @5iu of Pharm grade GH per day and think all will be well. You need to start out very slow...1iu per day for at least a week or two, then try 2iu for 2-4 weeks and the increase it by 1iu every 2-4 weeks till you reach your target dose...if the sides are not too bad you can increase the dose every couple of weeks but that all depends on how you respond...

Yeah I found that out later lol. Too bad since I had enough to run for at least 8 mos @ 5iu/day, just basically gave it to my buddies super cheap after my test run.

Live and learn. Wont ever come across HG for that price again likely so I wont be trying GH again.I have a hard time trusting the products sold online.



F.

[kinger77]

can anyone suggest for me 5 9 236 a starting cycle of gh please thanks

[ruskee]

The hardcore kit i had was not fake bud....it had a 315.net sticker... Do you know what that is??? If not, i suggest you do some more research...

Gettropin is highly faked and even the real stuff does not have that great a feedback...

In fact i do know what the 315.net sticker is... however i also found out through an email that the wholesaler in Toronto orders the stickers seperately from the kits because he claims to repackage them.... However, with seperate stickers it is easy to sell Fake stuff as the real thing....

The real HardcoreGrowth stuff i have now is not really a powder... it is a solid puck on HGH inside the vial.... and the one from the website was all small particles.... and the labels were loose as well as the 315.net sticker... I assure you the website is not proper hardcoregrowth stuff.... However the REAL THING is not bad and gives me numb forearms almost every workout

[gustavo77]

In fact i do know what the 315.net sticker is... however i also found out through an email that the wholesaler in Toronto orders the stickers seperately from the kits because he claims to repackage them.... However, with seperate stickers it is easy to sell Fake stuff as the real thing....

The real HardcoreGrowth stuff i have now is not really a powder... it is a solid puck on HGH inside the vial.... and the one from the website was all small particles.... and the labels were loose as well as the 315.net sticker... I assure you the website is not proper hardcoregrowth stuff.... However the REAL THING is not bad and gives me numb forearms almost every workout

The hardcore i had was a solid puck also...if not i would have been pissed....all Chinese GH should come as a puck..if it does not then i would definitely question it. But it was real yellow top somatropin, no doubt about it...

I do not care about any website as i am not here to advocate the selling of any of these products... All i am saying is the HCG GH i received was real...

[Skyblob]

5in the morning 5 at night lol

At night? why at night ... i thaught your GH levels are at the roof during your first hours of sleep... What ive read the best moments for GH is in the moring and PWO.

[Mako930]

I just started serostim 6ius once every third day (2x a week). Just started as my first HGH ever. I began 2weeks ago. And I have kept up just my usuall gym and running routine. In one week I gained 2.75 lbs and lost 1% of bf. Am I just kidding myself? Next week I'm supossed to to to 6ius (3x per week). This is all under a regular M.D.'s care. Are we going to conservative? Right now I'm 5'10 154.75 with 16bf Trying to get to 190 with single digit bf. Pipe Dream? am I years or months away? I've gained 10 lbs this year having gone from 19% bf totally naturally. Would really appreciate any advice on other supplements you'd suggest. Thanx a heap -Mako

[monkey]

I just started serostim 6ius once every third day (2x a week). Just started as my first HGH ever. I began 2weeks ago. And I have kept up just my usuall gym and running routine. In one week I gained 2.75 lbs and lost 1% of bf. Am I just kidding myself? Next week I'm supossed to to to 6ius (3x per week). This is all under a regular M.D.'s care. Are we going to conservative? Right now I'm 5'10 154.75 with 16bf Trying to get to 190 with single digit bf. Pipe Dream? am I years or months away? I've gained 10 lbs this year having gone from 19% bf totally naturally. Would really appreciate any advice on other supplements you'd suggest. Thanx a heap -Mako

Milk! Time! Food! personal trainer! Training! stop wasting your money

[pw154]

I just started serostim 6ius once every third day (2x a week). Just started as my first HGH ever. I began 2weeks ago. And I have kept up just my usuall gym and running routine. In one week I gained 2.75 lbs and lost 1% of bf. Am I just kidding myself? Next week I'm supossed to to to 6ius (3x per week). This is all under a regular M.D.'s care. Are we going to conservative? Right now I'm 5'10 154.75 with 16bf Trying to get to 190 with single digit bf. Pipe Dream? am I years or months away? I've gained 10 lbs this year having gone from 19% bf totally naturally. Would really appreciate any advice on other supplements you'd suggest. Thanx a heap -MakoBro to get from 5'10 154 @ 16% to 190 at 9% you'd have to gain 44 lbs of LBM. 44 facken lbs. You are YEARS away even with all of the drugs in the world. Months is not even a pipe dream, it's fantasy. You are wasting your health and money and actually stagnating your future progress in the long term.

[pw154]

I seriously hope you're just trolling

[Memo]

5"10, you could go to 190 easily naturally to start with. I am 5"4 and worked my way to 175 from 115 and it took me like 3 years, maybe more.