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[Kilburn]

750mg test e ew
450mg tren e ew
375mg test c ew
150mg eq ew

eq is mostly for tendons. does this look any good? i was going to run it for about 15 weeks.

i'm off for atleast another month tho.

[Blitz-Test]

guess you have cyp and enanthate on hand and thats why you are running two different tests...

Also youve run tren before right? pretty high dose?

I think you should up your eq a bit...

[Kilburn]

i'm also going to be using 10iu of slin post workout 2 weeks on/2 weeks off.

all i need to order is the test c. or i could just go with more e, it doesnt really matter.

my diet needs to be better this time around, i will be eatting atleast 2-3 pounds of ground beef everyday plus tuna.

[waderow]

eq should be 600ish in my opinion.

and the cyp enanthate thing that BT mentioned. No point unless you have both and want to use them up

[Kilburn]

DIET

meal 1: 6 whole eggs, 1 large bagel, 500ml milk, oats

meal 2: 1 pound ground beef, pasta, sauce

WORK OUT

meal 3: 3 scoops of whey protien (90 grams), 2 banana, juice

meal 4: 1 pound ground beef, pasta, sauce

meal 5: 2 scoops of whey protien, oats, milk

meal 6: 2 cans of tuna, 2 banana



thats the diet im gong to try to follow. protien should be at about 400 grams ED, maybe more.

[canadianmuscle0803]

750mg test e ew
450mg tren e ew
375mg test c ew
150mg eq ew

eq is mostly for tendons. does this look any good? i was going to run it for about 15 weeks.

i'm off for atleast another month tho.

why bother mixing the 2 different test esters?? just run test e and save the cyp for another cycle, the half fives are not the same on them so it will only make your flood unstable for no reason, just stick with 1 ester of test at a time if you ask me, the tren e dose looks very good, EQ dose is rather low, i heard studies that show EQ to only be affective at no less then 400mg but im not positive..

[Kilburn]

yes, i will just go with all test e then for a total of

1125 EW

the EQ is only to help protect my joints

[Drummer]

those are high amount unless you have some history...

what is your cycle history? stats? lifting history? Every time someone asks for cycle input, all of these should be included for an accurate response.

~DB~

[Kilburn]

those are high amount unless you have some history...

what is your cycle history? stats? lifting history? Every time someone asks for cycle input, all of these should be included for an accurate response.

~DB~

ya ive used lots. i dont really give a fuk about useless details.

5'11, 210 at my heaviest. pic:

http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/6030/yguhyk1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/yguhyk1.jpg/1/w224.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img72/yguhyk1.jpg/1/)

[Drummer]

ya ive used lots. i dont really give a fuk about useless details.

5'11, 210 at my heaviest. pic:

http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/6030/yguhyk1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/yguhyk1.jpg/1/w224.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img72/yguhyk1.jpg/1/)


Ahh screw it... ill ignore the "i dont really give a fuk about useless details" remark.

A gram a week of test is fine. Mixing the 2 esters is fine to, they are very close anyway. You prolly know how gyno sensetive you are, so ill leave the ancilliaries to you. 450 tren is also fine. Its not that high for a guy your size. Id bump up the EQ a bit, unless you know it works well for you at those doses. With your history and your pic, it looks all fine. Ill take for granted that your training and eating are fine too. Maybe report your gains when your done?

~DB~

[Kilburn]

thanks bro. my training is good but im going to try and step it up when i get on this cycle. i'm hoping to hit a SOLID 220 by which i mean not too much water, etc. not trying to be cocky but at a solid 220 i would look pretty much godly. after this cycle i'm going to cruise on 250mg of test a week indefinitely and try to maintain everything.

[Drummer]

a solid 220 at your height would appear huge. Thats a high goal, but achievable if you genetics are pretty good... your body wont want 220 at under 10% bf... so you prolly will have to cruise on some test to maintain... High goals are better than low ones tho, post your results -

~DB~

[Monka]

Would deca be better then EQ?? i THOUGHT deca helped more for joints? i could be wrong

[Drummer]

Would deca be better then EQ?? i THOUGHT deca helped more for joints? i could be wrong

Deca works wonders for the joints. After a little research, i found out why. Its unimportant tho, just proved to me that there is a mechanism for it to help joints.

~DB~

[gustavo77]

Would deca be better then EQ?? i THOUGHT deca helped more for joints? i could be wrong

Deca is not a good choice with tren. Both increase progesterone and prolactin.

[gustavo77]

DIET

meal 1: 6 whole eggs, 1 large bagel, 500ml milk, oats

meal 2: 1 pound ground beef, pasta, sauce

WORK OUT

meal 3: 3 scoops of whey protien (90 grams), 2 banana, juice

meal 4: 1 pound ground beef, pasta, sauce

meal 5: 2 scoops of whey protien, oats, milk

meal 6: 2 cans of tuna, 2 banana



thats the diet im gong to try to follow. protien should be at about 400 grams ED, maybe more.

Looks like a very decent bulking diet. The only thing i would recommend is have a nice green salad with your pasta/beef meals. You will definitely need some fiber and extra vit/minerals to help process a pound of beef. At the very least take some Orange (sugar free) flavored Metamucil. Can't stress how important fiber is, especially when you are consuming high amounts of protein.

[Drummer]

Deca is not a good choice with tren. Both increase progesterone and prolactin.

thats why i didnt recommend it for his cycle for the joints. i took both and got a little itchy...

[Kilburn]

300mg of tren ew was bad enough for my dick.

450+deca and i might as well just forget about having sex.

ive been off for like 4 weeks and i'm still having some troubles. but it's not as bad, and a bit of viagra helps alot.

[giannos]

i'm off for at least another month tho.


OK, I'll be the guy that brings this up... Bro, you just came off a LONG cycle which included Tren and you had some issues, thus you stopped.. That was not that long ago. Do you not think you might need at least 3 months off, maybe more?

Not being an ass bro, honestly out of concern. Have you thought about TRT and the fact you may end up on it ?


Cycle looks good to me, IMO, I would get blood work done first and make sure your back up and running before hitting the Tren train again..

[Houstonbc]

some people dont ever come off, and he said hes going on a replacement dose at the end of this cycle as well....

[giannos]

some people dont ever come off, and he said hes going on a replacement dose at the end of this cycle as well....

Ya for sure.. Kilburn knows I meant no disrespect.. Just throwing it out there. IMHO, and stress OPINION, unless your trying to turn pro or make a living at this, you should always come off... Again, just my 2 cents

[waderow]

Ya for sure.. Kilburn knows I meant no disrespect.. Just throwing it out there. IMHO, and stress OPINION, unless your trying to turn pro or make a living at this, you should always come off... Again, just my 2 cents

there is logic behind the hrt after a certain age. one day i will go hrt, and essentially never come off.

[Kilburn]

OK, I'll be the guy that brings this up... Bro, you just came off a LONG cycle which included Tren and you had some issues, thus you stopped.. That was not that long ago. Do you not think you might need at least 3 months off, maybe more?

Not being an ass bro, honestly out of concern. Have you thought about TRT and the fact you may end up on it ?


Cycle looks good to me, IMO, I would get blood work done first and make sure your back up and running before hitting the Tren train again..

i dont really care anymore. do or die. and besides,
ive only been off for 4 weeks and i already feel pretty much normal. my sleep is back to normal and it seems like my balls have already gotten bigger. i guess the nolvadex is really working. so idk, by february, i should be good to go.

and yes, at the end of january i'm going to go in for blood work. if it comes bcak really scary then i'm going to stay off.

anyways, thanks for the concern.


there is logic behind the hrt after a certain age. one day i will go hrt, and essentially never come off.

i'm not really using it for hrt, i'm more just trying to maintain all my gains.

[Descimus]

With all respect bro ''do or die'' and that i dont care attitude is gonna lead you to no where good. Might need to reconsider your goal bro.


i dont really care anymore. do or die. and besides,
ive only been off for 4 weeks and i already feel pretty much normal. my sleep is back to normal and it seems like my balls have already gotten bigger. i guess the nolvadex is really working. so idk, by february, i should be good to go.

and yes, at the end of january i'm going to go in for blood work. if it comes bcak really scary then i'm going to stay off.

anyways, thanks for the concern.



i'm not really using it for hrt, i'm more just trying to maintain all my gains.