var and winny

[junglejoe]

What would one suggest as doses and length for running Anavar and winny.
was thinking of 6 weeks in length.
Var 80 mgs/day split into 2 equal doses
Winny 50mg/day

Looking for the double effect of the cutting drugs. Starting this coming Monday.

[#8]

your liver will hate you unless you are jabbing your winny, thats a harsh cycle on your lipids dude. 6 weeks prolly wont kill you but get bloodwork done before and after to see how harsh that was.....

[Felinecougar]

Why would you do both? They are both going to do the same thing? Figure girls run them.

Cut your cost and go with one.

[L3]

i ran a cycle similar to that.. to all the people saying/will say 'omigosh your liver'...yes your liver value gets elevated but that happends all the time even with OTC supplements or alcohol or accutane...there are also lots of anciliaries you can run that could potentially help relieve some of the stress...

joe imo you should cut the var to 40mg/day split up the var dose 10morning-20preworkout-10evening

up the winny to 100mg= 25morning-50preworkout-25evening

run the winny for 6 weeks and the var for 8

if you have low bf% youre gonna be shredded winny is $$$ for vascularity

keep low-weight/high-reps cause youre joints are gonna act up in week 4 from the winny

[St]

I know many that run orals only,but 130mg a day is nuts.Most people take 50mg a day,seen a few up to 100mg ed,but didn't feel good overall(stomach) as well.What is the strenght of the Var,and the strenght of the winny.

[nitrous]

i just did a 10 week cycle of var.. 40mg's ED.. 20 morning and 20 night.. seemed to work good for me.. i'd start around there and work up if need be... running both sounds like too much to me.. at least at those dosages

[JonnyO]

pretty lame cycle IMHO.

[Monka]

Use the pin!!!! hehe

[natenator]

your liver will hate you unless you are jabbing your winny


Regardless of the method (inject or oral) it still has to pass through the liver. Bioavability will be higher with injectable but it too still passes through the liver the same an oral would making it irrevelant as to whether it injects or not.

[gustavo77]

Regardless of the method (inject or oral) it still has to pass through the liver. Bioavability will be higher with injectable but it too still passes through the liver the same an oral would making it irrevelant as to whether it injects or not.

Ahhh, the issue is with TOXICITY....oral AAS are akalated to avoid breakdown by liver enzymes. This can cause a great deal of stress to liver. Most injects are not toxic at all.

[St]

Ahhh, the issue is with TOXICITY....oral AAS are akalated to avoid breakdown by liver enzymes. This can cause a great deal of stress to liver. Most injects are not toxic at all.



Yes 100%.

[fourarms]

I think natenator was just referring to toxicity of Winny, not all injectables.

[varking]

Why not add in a injectable?? take out th winny or var and add some god old test e. You will gain more for your money and also your liver will have a hard on and so will you!!!!

[L3]

Why not add in a injectable??

sometimes its just not feasible to add an injectible... could have a phobia of needles or be living with parents/relatives

[St]

sometimes its just not feasible to add an injectible... could have a phobia of needles or be living with parents/relatives

You got that right.

[Monka]

sometimes its just not feasible to add an injectible... could have a phobia of needles or be living with parents/relatives Using steroids with a needle phobia, will not give you anything long term. Thats a thing you'd just have to push threw, i remember (when started) was stressed big time, and took all i had to do the poke, now don't even think of it.Hell, will just run in room, load ,switch tips for sharper pin and just poke and out, done. Some dudes will sit there and make some small semi surgery look, lol, table with Alcohol,swabs, pins, syringes, bottles, lol even bandage for after.die hards might have a slinge. lmao.. after 20 years, you get to point where you know and procedure is by far not there anymore. I know not safe, but shit even to do the little pull when in just dont bother. Now at parents home, that be little hard lol..Then again, if ones living at home, should gear be something to be doing?

[Drummer]

ouch i feel sorry for your liver... but seriously, it prolly wont hurt you, just uncommon to run just oral, x2 for that matter... but some ppl cant take all orals like that either....

~DB~

[gustavo77]

sometimes its just not feasible to add an injectible...

I'll agree with this when an EFFECTIVE oral form of test is made...

[varking]

sometimes its just not feasible to add an injectible... could have a phobia of needles or be living with parents/relatives

yes I know how that feel if you scared get over it and for the rents then ok just make sure you take it easy on the liver you have to have that the rest of your life....

[outshine]

I'll agree with this when an EFFECTIVE oral form of test is made...

alot of needlephobes use transdermals. These are effective, no?

[gustavo77]

alot of needlephobes use transdermals. These are effective, no?

Yes, for replacement purposes they are decent. But try to getting a dose of 500mg of test per wk with those...lol.