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BAM
07-01-2009, 09:49 PM
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3652334,00.html

waderow
07-01-2009, 10:45 PM
what do they expect Israel to do. Give up?

oh well

BAM
07-01-2009, 11:06 PM
I smell a nuke in Israel's future.

Most hated country in the world.

waderow
07-01-2009, 11:12 PM
that would be the end. I dont get why theyre hated. they never start the shit.....just finish it. i respect them
surrounded by the biggest asshole countries in the world, and they all want israel flattened

BAM
07-01-2009, 11:20 PM
Hmmm.. You seem to be misinformed by the media.

Guess who owns the media?

AlladdinSane
07-01-2009, 11:22 PM
Catholics?

BAM
07-01-2009, 11:24 PM
Satan owns it.

waderow
07-01-2009, 11:27 PM
Hmmm.. You seem to be misinformed by the media.

Guess who owns the media?

i make my own conclusions.

in fact Bam, the media is very anti-Israeli Its a common skinhead chestbeat to blame the jewish press

BAM
07-01-2009, 11:28 PM
So you base your conclusions on?

You've been there?

You've talked to some Palestinians?

waderow
07-01-2009, 11:28 PM
you have to get your information from non-mainstream sources, including everything from youtube posts, to blogs.

waderow
07-01-2009, 11:28 PM
forums
media to an extent

waderow
07-01-2009, 11:30 PM
Bam I am curious why you hate Israel. Not calling you out or anything, I am a huge bigot myself, but I think Israel has the right to exist and defend. You don;t so I am curious where the differences lie

waderow
07-01-2009, 11:32 PM
to me, Islam is the biggest threat to the planet in every sense

BAM
07-01-2009, 11:32 PM
Bam I am curious why you hate Israel. Not calling you out or anything, I am a huge bigot myself, but I think Israel has the right to exist and defend. You don;t so I am curious where the differences lie

Because I fuq'n hate bottle dancers
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faller
08-01-2009, 12:58 AM
And here we have Palistine's greatest achivement....Rock throwing :yeah

http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o113/faller11/sub&#37;20album/palestinesthrowrock.jpg

BAM
08-01-2009, 07:26 AM
^^ and Israel justifies the overkill and indiscriminate use of the best military in the world against sticks, rocks , and bottle rockets.

Sounds fair.

Eventually, Israel will be nuked. But yeah, I'll probably be thrown over the fence by a catapult made of sticks and rope.
lol

waderow
08-01-2009, 08:45 AM
overkill? there is a military responce to a military threat. rockets are a military weapon

what should israel do? fire back rockets indesciminately at citizens so everything is "even steven"?

or should they go in with military and try to surgically remove theat.

the citizens who die, 99&#37; of time are pawns used as human shields, then photographed and spread to mainstream media.

BAM
08-01-2009, 09:10 AM
Have you seen one of these Palestinian rockets? One would pretty much have to come through your kitchen window and strike you on the head to hurt you.

I disagree with your use of the word surgical. The Israelies pretty much just blow up whatever they want and call the victims terrorists. (just like the Americans do.. after all, The usa is a province of Israel) and when you control the main world media, its pretty easy to baffle and bullshit simple minded sheeple into believing whatever you force feed them.

It is genocide against a people with essentially no weapons. (yet) IMNSHO

wrought
08-01-2009, 09:19 AM
Hmmm.. You seem to be misinformed by the media.

Guess who owns the media?

We do! We do!

BAM
08-01-2009, 09:21 AM
Dont even get me started on the stone cutters.

hehe

waderow
08-01-2009, 09:55 AM
Have you seen one of these Palestinian rockets? One would pretty much have to come through your kitchen window and strike you on the head to hurt you.

I disagree with your use of the word surgical. The Israelies pretty much just blow up whatever they want and call the victims terrorists. (just like the Americans do.. after all, The usa is a province of Israel) and when you control the main world media, its pretty easy to baffle and bullshit simple minded sheeple into believing whatever you force feed them.

It is genocide against a people with essentially no weapons. (yet) IMNSHO

the blame still falls on Hamas, whether you are correct or not, and you must not read much, as you are still harping about jewish media. The mainstream media is antisemitic actually.
They only report the purported "Israeli aggression" and not the Israeli patience and tolerance.

The Jewish media myth is a skinhead thing you hear every muppet on Stormfront yap about, but it is only because the media hates skinheads. David Duke (popular whitesupremacist) spouts that shit all the time, then all the skinheads parrot it.
theyre a bunch of little bitches.

waderow
08-01-2009, 09:59 AM
furthermore, if Israel was committing genocide, there wouldn't be any scrubs runnign around firing rockets, becasue theyd be dead. use your head Bam

waderow
08-01-2009, 10:05 AM
[QUOTE=BAM;116289]Have you seen one of these Palestinian rockets?[QUOTE]

bro, you seem very sheltered, so let me school you a bit:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qassam_rocket

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=748_1231058146

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=f22_1204846000


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f031s79COpw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ryfqgOaCQnk&feature=related

theres a cursory 30 second search. dig around and open your mind Bam

BAM
08-01-2009, 03:58 PM
I'm not impressed at all with those rockets. Garbage.

Compare that weak shit to what the Israelies are launching in return.

You have blinders on dude.

waderow
08-01-2009, 04:14 PM
well maybe youre tough enough to not get killed by a rocket, and maybe youre man enough to not be scared by 30 per day hitting your town, but what about the Israeli kids? The women? The guys who arent as tough as you?

BAM
08-01-2009, 04:56 PM
Sure man.. I'm not condoning violence by anybody.

I'm just saying that the teams aren't fair weapon wise and one side is killing 100 times more than the other.

The Israelies invented terrorism btw.

trykillthis
08-01-2009, 06:17 PM
Palestinians brought it on themselves. The little dog might get away with nipping at the big dog for a little while but the big dog will lose his patience after a while. Palestine has had it coming for a while.

Didn't the Isrealis just dismantle some compounds in Palestine as part of a deal to end the rocket attacks?

There idea of only using the same kinds of weapons you are being attacked with is rediculous. You use the best equipment possible to keep your own troop casualties to a minimum. If the palestiniams want use rocks, who cares, they picked the fight. I wouldn't waste my troops lives on shit like that. Bring in a tank and be done with it.

BAM
08-01-2009, 06:24 PM
Palestinians brought it on themselves. The little dog might get away with nipping at the big dog for a little while but the big dog will lose his patience after a while. Palestine has had it coming for a while.

Didn't the Isrealis just dismantle some compounds in Palestine as part of a deal to end the rocket attacks?

There idea of only using the same kinds of weapons you are being attacked with is rediculous. You use the best equipment possible to keep your own troop casualties to a minimum. If the palestiniams want use rocks, who cares, they picked the fight. I wouldn't waste my troops lives on shit like that. Bring in a tank and be done with it.

Ahem.. It is not all Palestinians that are launching rockets and such. My problem with Israel's manner of response is that they are killing hundreds of innocent people and labelling them Hamas. Israel is supposed to be civilized, yet they act no better than a common terrorist with their tactics. I have heard Jews that used to live in Israel say that most Israelies do not even consider the Palestinian people to be human beings.

Hypothetically, If some 5 year old were to kick me in the shins should I pick him up by the throat and smash his head off the pavement and then grab a hundred other 5 year olds that sorta have the same skin colour as the first one and kick them in the nuts as hard as I can with my steel toed boots to make sure no 5 year old ever kicks me in the shins again? (Even though I am supposed to be the most advanced, mature, civilized, adult in the neighbourhood?)

or would it be a better idea for me to just go get some shin pads?

fathead
08-01-2009, 07:44 PM
bam- youre clearly loopy and a conspiracy theorist as well as a blatant anti-Semite. there are much more appropriate web sites out there for you, many of which you have posted links to here. keep this bullshit to those boards

BAM
08-01-2009, 09:31 PM
bam- youre clearly loopy and a conspiracy theorist as well as a blatant anti-Semite. there are much more appropriate web sites out there for you, many of which you have posted links to here. keep this bullshit to those boards


or..

You could just ignore threads that offend you and not participate in them and save your pseudo-moderator chastising for when you are actually a mod. Do you think these hot topics aren't being discussed on almost every board out there? Do you think these events are not being analyzed by newspapers, television etc. YOu do realize that there are huge protests and gatherings of support going on in many large cities of the world representing both sides of this middle east crisis?

Should we all have just kept our mouth shut after 911?
I don't even know you, but just because you don't like my argument or perhaps annoyed that my arguments forces you to rethink your reality, I dunno, but .
If you for one second think I'm the only one on this board that shares my opinion, or at least semi-shares it, I think you are kidding yourself. I just have the balls to speak out about it. Sorry if criminal injustices in society piss me off.

Btw, this thread was on its way off the page until you bumped it. :)

Here's a link for you Fathead since you like my links so much:
http://jewishcrimenetwork.com/

whofarzed
08-01-2009, 11:26 PM
Wow! I am a new member on these forums and usually just read. However, some of these comments make me sick. Clearly waderow and fathead and etc. do not understand the issue at all. But really, I can't really blame you guys since the Canadian and American media is so biased towards Israel you guys never really get the true story. Clearly arguing with you guys would be pointless, so I am not even going to attempt it. However, it would be nice if you guys did a little bit of research on the history of the conflict before making up your minds. Groups like Hamas only exist because of the occupation of Palestine and the way Palestinians have been treated over the years. Waderow or Fathead, what if in the past the Zionists decided to come to your land and house's in Canada to set up settlements. Forcing you out of your house, along with killing, raping of your sisters, wives etc. Then forcing you to live in a small section of land and controlling every border there leaving you to live in the shittiest inhumane conditions with little water, food, med supplies and etc.? Then wonder why people get desperate and commit "terrorist" suicide attacks or throw powerful deadly small rocks at Israeli tanks or the very sophisticated rockets launched into "Israel". Anyways, i am not gonna go on.

maybe you should check out some sites like http://www.ifamericansknew.org

set up by an american journalist who used to believe all the things about the conflict that she saw in US news until going over there and checking things out for herself. Take a look at the history section of the site, and also the media anlysis section that shows how the US media is so biased towards Israel in its reporting.

However, I doubt you guys will or can be convinced to look at things from another perspective. This to me is very sad! Although I do not agree with Hamas' rockets fired into Israel (no violence is good), the real terrorist is Israel-- and also the US for backing it all these years. Not that Canadian policies are any better. I am honestly surprised that more 911 type attacks don't occur in the west for all the atrocities we have committed.

sad

oh ya, and fathead, calling BAM an anti-semite is ridiculous. There is a big difference between a Jew and a Zionist. The problem is with Zionists not with Jews-- not all Jew's are Zionists and many disagree with the creation of a Jewish homeland in the already inhabited land of Palestine and with Israeli politics. (In the late 1800's the land was almost all comprised of Palestinian Arabs both Muslims, Christian and only like 3% Jews). And the myth about using religion saying the jews belong to that land or whatever is also ridiculous.

anyways, that is all-- cause unfortunately I realize this is going to be a waste of time. But please people, inform yourselves and be critical of things you see on T.V.

Funny you guys can be so critical of the media when it spreads bullshit about the evils of steroid use but can't be critical in other areas.

Hearing comments like the Palestinians had it coming and are responsible for their own slaughter is terrible and just reinforces the racism towards Arabs. We are all humans! why is one Israeli death equal to hundreds of innocent Palestinians? But oh no, nobody better speak up, because they will be accused of being anti-semetic, and reminded about the horrible way Jews were treated by the Nazi's.

Sigh

waderow
08-01-2009, 11:53 PM
Wow! I am a new member on these forums and usually just read. However, some of these comments make me sick. Clearly waderow and fathead and etc. do not understand the issue at all. But really, I can't really blame you guys since the Canadian and American media is so biased towards Israel you guys never really get the true story. Clearly arguing with you guys would be pointless, so I am not even going to attempt it. However, it would be nice if you guys did a little bit of research on the history of the conflict before making up your minds. Groups like Hamas only exist because of the occupation of Palestine and the way Palestinians have been treated over the years. Waderow or Fathead, what if in the past the Zionists decided to come to your land and house's in Canada to set up settlements. Forcing you out of your house, along with killing, raping of your sisters, wives etc. Then forcing you to live in a small section of land and controlling every border there leaving you to live in the shittiest inhumane conditions with little water, food, med supplies and etc.? Then wonder why people get desperate and commit "terrorist" suicide attacks or throw powerful deadly small rocks at Israeli tanks or the very sophisticated rockets launched into "Israel". Anyways, i am not gonna go on.

maybe you should check out some sites like http://www.ifamericansknew.org

set up by an american journalist who used to believe all the things about the conflict that she saw in US news until going over there and checking things out for herself. Take a look at the history section of the site, and also the media anlysis section that shows how the US media is so biased towards Israel in its reporting.

However, I doubt you guys will or can be convinced to look at things from another perspective. This to me is very sad! Although I do not agree with Hamas' rockets fired into Israel (no violence is good), the real terrorist is Israel-- and also the US for backing it all these years. Not that Canadian policies are any better. I am honestly surprised that more 911 type attacks don't occur in the west for all the atrocities we have committed.

sad

oh ya, and fathead, calling BAM an anti-semite is ridiculous. There is a big difference between a Jew and a Zionist. The problem is with Zionists not with Jews-- not all Jew's are Zionists and many disagree with the creation of a Jewish homeland in the already inhabited land of Palestine and with Israeli politics. (In the late 1800's the land was almost all comprised of Palestinian Arabs both Muslims, Christian and only like 3% Jews). And the myth about using religion saying the jews belong to that land or whatever is also ridiculous.

anyways, that is all-- cause unfortunately I realize this is going to be a waste of time. But please people, inform yourselves and be critical of things you see on T.V.

Funny you guys can be so critical of the media when it spreads bullshit about the evils of steroid use but can't be critical in other areas.

Hearing comments like the Palestinians had it coming and are responsible for their own slaughter is terrible and just reinforces the racism towards Arabs. We are all humans! why is one Israeli death equal to hundreds of innocent Palestinians? But oh no, nobody better speak up, because they will be accused of being anti-semetic, and reminded about the horrible way Jews were treated by the Nazi's.

Sigh

no comment, as I am sure I am well read on the topic. On all sides, with all media types. PS most media is anti israel you moron.

Palestinians are strangers to the land in question, and to be honest, they are not palestinians, but merely egyptions, jordanese or whatever, and varying arabs displaced by their arab ex-governments.

the land was not desired prior to 1948.

it all boils down to anti-semitism, predominantly in the arab world.

but long story short.....Israel is there to stay, and the ONLY way for peace is to quit lobbing rockets, and to quit bombing weddings and night clubs.

then Israeli restrictions and muscle flexing will cease, and soon the people will prosper along side the israelis

BAM
09-01-2009, 07:34 AM
Waderow.. You either have a very closed mind, or you are very Jewish, otherwise, you would consider both sides of this argument, especially when human lives are at stake. With regard to the media? Are you fuqn crazy? Jews own pretty much all the media, especially in the West and in Europe.

Whofarzed - Thanks for speaking up. So many people in the west are blinded by the Jewish owned media its almost maddening.

** With that said, in the future I will keep these types of threads to a minimum (here on cbb) as they divide the community un-necessarily. That is not what I want to do as this is a bodybuilding site, something that we all enjoy and something that should bind together not drive us apart.

waderow
09-01-2009, 10:24 AM
Waderow.. You either have a very closed mind, or you are very Jewish, otherwise, you would consider both sides of this argument, especially when human lives are at stake. With regard to the media? Are you fuqn crazy? Jews own pretty much all the media, especially in the West and in Europe.

Whofarzed - Thanks for speaking up. So many people in the west are blinded by the Jewish owned media its almost maddening.

** With that said, in the future I will keep these types of threads to a minimum (here on cbb) as they divide the community un-necessarily. That is not what I want to do as this is a bodybuilding site, something that we all enjoy and something that should bind together not drive us apart.

can you post some links to some media not critical of Israel or otherwise blindly supporting israel with bias? I don't recall seeing any

also, how do you know who own the media? I heard a bunch of anti semites spew that on stormfront, but thats it. I would appreciate the proof so I can learn something today

BAM
09-01-2009, 11:41 AM
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also, how do you know who own the media? I heard a bunch of anti semites spew that on stormfront, but thats it. I would appreciate the proof so I can learn something today

Well, just to name a few:

Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer - The ashkenazim jewish Louis Burt Mayer
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louis_B....
Warner Bros. Pictures - 4 ashkenazim jewish brothers
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harry_Wa...
Columbia Pictures - The ashkenazim jewish brothers Harry and Jack Cohn
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harry_Cohn
Universal - the ashkenazim jewish founder Carl Laemmle
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carl_Lae...
Universal - NBC - Jeff Zucker
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeff_Zucker

Fox Entertainment Group
Fox News
Fox Kids
+ 150 more TV-MEDIA-Newspaper etc
own by the Rupert Murdoch
And His blood is ashkenazim jewish by his mother - Dame Elisabeth Murdoch - born Elisabeth Greene
http://www.realnews247.com/rupert_mur...

20 Century FOX - The ashkenazim jewish founders Joseph M Schenck, William Goetz and William Fox
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wilhelm_...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_...

MTV
VIACOM
TV-LAND
COMEDY CENTRAL
NICKELODEON
HBO
Cinemax
DREAMWORKS
Vivendi's NBC-Universal
News Corporation
Time Warner
Sony and The Walt Disney Company
Owner the ashkenazim jewish Sumner Murray Redstone (born Sumner Murray Rothstein)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sumner_R...

Dreamworks founders - The ashkenazim jewish Steven Spielberg with biggest lie movie Schinder&#180;s list
Ashkenazim jewish Jeffrey Katzenberg and ashkenazim jewish David Geffen
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steven_S...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeffrey_...


Paramount Pictures - CEO Sherry Lansing
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sherry_L...
Owner VIACOM
Walt Disney Company - The ashkenazim jewish Michael D. Eisner
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_...
ABC
ABC KIDS
ABC FAMILY
ABC NEWS
The ashkenazim jewish owner Robert A. Iger - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Iger
CBS - Founder the ashkenazim jewish William S. Paley
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_...

CBS and CBS NEWS - owner the ashkenazim jewish Leslie Moonves
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leslie_M...

WorldPeaceTV

CNN - The Ashkenazim jewish CO-founder Reese Schonfeld
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reese_Sc...
Almost every worker in CNN is an ashkenazim jewish

ESPN ESPNHD, ESPN2HD, ESPN Plus, ESPN PPV, ESPN360 and ABC - President the ashkenazim jewish George Bodenheimer
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_B...

NBC
NBC NEWS
NBC SPORT
The ashkenazim founder David Sarnoff
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Sa...
The ashkenazim president/owner Jeffrey Zucker
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeff_Zucker

The New York Times - The ashkenazim jewish owner Artur Ochs Sulzberger Jr
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arthur_O... The funny part is that it is NOT mention that He is jewish but search on His father and see that he is the founder of the propganda newspaper and also the ADL

The Washington Post - The ashkenazim jewish founder Eugene Isaac Meyer
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eugene_M...
His son Donald Graham also an ashkenazim jewish president but it is not mention!
US NEWS
New York Daily News
World Report
Is founded and own by the ashkenazim jewish Mortimer Zuckerman
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mortimer...
And the Reuters which all the report from the world comes - all the pictures and videos the founder is the ashkenazim jewish Paul Julius Baron von Reuter
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Jul...

Glad I could help with your education.

.

AlladdinSane
09-01-2009, 11:46 AM
I think BAM is secretly Mel Gibson... ;)

j/k!

AlladdinSane
09-01-2009, 12:02 PM
*crickets chirping*

waderow
09-01-2009, 12:47 PM
using that bullshit, BAM is probably a Jew. ****, I LOL'd

most isnt media
some isnt mainstream

some of them are like mother is half Jew LOLOLOLOLLO

**** what a big jewish conspiracy


oksy, here is the test, now you said they are Jew owned and biased.

show me a biased article from sayyyy... CNN, NBC, and CBS

BAM
09-01-2009, 12:54 PM
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gojimmygo
09-01-2009, 12:58 PM
Wow! I am a new member on these forums and usually just read. However, some of these comments make me sick. Clearly waderow and fathead and etc. do not understand the issue at all. But really, I can't really blame you guys since the Canadian and American media is so biased towards Israel you guys never really get the true story. Clearly arguing with you guys would be pointless, so I am not even going to attempt it. However, it would be nice if you guys did a little bit of research on the history of the conflict before making up your minds. Groups like Hamas only exist because of the occupation of Palestine and the way Palestinians have been treated over the years. Waderow or Fathead, what if in the past the Zionists decided to come to your land and house's in Canada to set up settlements. Forcing you out of your house, along with killing, raping of your sisters, wives etc. Then forcing you to live in a small section of land and controlling every border there leaving you to live in the shittiest inhumane conditions with little water, food, med supplies and etc.? Then wonder why people get desperate and commit "terrorist" suicide attacks or throw powerful deadly small rocks at Israeli tanks or the very sophisticated rockets launched into "Israel". Anyways, i am not gonna go on.

maybe you should check out some sites like http://www.ifamericansknew.org

set up by an american journalist who used to believe all the things about the conflict that she saw in US news until going over there and checking things out for herself. Take a look at the history section of the site, and also the media anlysis section that shows how the US media is so biased towards Israel in its reporting.

However, I doubt you guys will or can be convinced to look at things from another perspective. This to me is very sad! Although I do not agree with Hamas' rockets fired into Israel (no violence is good), the real terrorist is Israel-- and also the US for backing it all these years. Not that Canadian policies are any better. I am honestly surprised that more 911 type attacks don't occur in the west for all the atrocities we have committed.

sad

oh ya, and fathead, calling BAM an anti-semite is ridiculous. There is a big difference between a Jew and a Zionist. The problem is with Zionists not with Jews-- not all Jew's are Zionists and many disagree with the creation of a Jewish homeland in the already inhabited land of Palestine and with Israeli politics. (In the late 1800's the land was almost all comprised of Palestinian Arabs both Muslims, Christian and only like 3% Jews). And the myth about using religion saying the jews belong to that land or whatever is also ridiculous.

anyways, that is all-- cause unfortunately I realize this is going to be a waste of time. But please people, inform yourselves and be critical of things you see on T.V.

Funny you guys can be so critical of the media when it spreads bullshit about the evils of steroid use but can't be critical in other areas.

Hearing comments like the Palestinians had it coming and are responsible for their own slaughter is terrible and just reinforces the racism towards Arabs. We are all humans! why is one Israeli death equal to hundreds of innocent Palestinians? But oh no, nobody better speak up, because they will be accused of being anti-semetic, and reminded about the horrible way Jews were treated by the Nazi's.

Sigh

Good post brother.

waderow
09-01-2009, 01:13 PM
CNN is critical of Israel is the point I was making.

you probably don't even watch the news. just parrot your skinhead bullshit

waderow
09-01-2009, 01:24 PM
..............

fathead
09-01-2009, 02:40 PM
bam- do you hate jews?

whaler777
09-01-2009, 04:22 PM
WOW! interesting i got to see some very different views from certain people. The only thing to say is get educated and research as far back as you can to understand where all this hostility is coming from and Israel will shine. 777

guest
09-01-2009, 06:32 PM
one side seems to argue with their emotions, the other with their brains. i've heard points made by both and if i were pressed to support one of them it would Israel.

BAM
09-01-2009, 08:37 PM
one side seems to argue with their emotions, the other with their brains. i've heard points made by both and if i were pressed to support one of them it would Israel.

So you that stand with Israel sanction the cold blooded murder of innocent woman and children as necessary collateral damage? What is happening right now over there is acceptable to you?
You speak of one side arguing with emotion, but lets see how emotional Israel gets when they get a taste; when they are running through the streets with their own bloody babies in their arms, will it be ok then?, this violence against the innocent? or is there a double standard here?

tex
09-01-2009, 09:02 PM
war is all about collaterall damage.....shit happens and ppl die.......i think the palestenians have a nuke headed down their ****ing throats pretty quick

trykillthis
09-01-2009, 09:12 PM
war is all about collaterall damage.....shit happens and ppl die.......i think the palestenians have a nuke headed down their ****ing throats pretty quick

Bout time if they do. Time to nuke it and start all over again.

BAM
09-01-2009, 09:16 PM
Some cold hearted people on this board.

http://stop-israel.com/
http://stop-israel.com/lebanon1.jpg

Drummer
09-01-2009, 10:15 PM
how about this. they are all to blame and probably none of us here completely understand the madness that goes on over there. Just be glad your here i guess

~DB~

tex
10-01-2009, 11:51 AM
Some cold hearted people on this board.

http://stop-israel.com/
http://stop-israel.com/lebanon1.jpg i agree that it's shitty when kids die........

waderow
10-01-2009, 11:57 AM
^ Problem is, is BAM is too brainwashed to realize, that those dead kids were killed by Hamas, and then exploited once again after their demise for internet propaganda.

They can easily manipulate the un-intelligent (BAM) with these pics, and tug at the heartstrings of the weak bleeding heart types.

Fact of the matter is, those kids were either purposely placed in the vicinity of a rocket launch, or the rocket launch was purposefully placed in the vicinity of the children.

Makes for good photo ops and good internet

gojimmygo
10-01-2009, 12:16 PM
^ Problem is, is BAM is too brainwashed to realize, that those dead kids were killed by Hamas, and then exploited once again after their demise for internet propaganda.

They can easily manipulate the un-intelligent (BAM) with these pics, and tug at the heartstrings of the weak bleeding heart types.

Fact of the matter is, those kids were either purposely placed in the vicinity of a rocket launch, or the rocket launch was purposefully placed in the vicinity of the children.

Makes for good photo ops and good internet

Fact of the matter is.......How do you know what goes on there? Are you there? Do you see this with your own eyes? Or are you like Bam getting your info second hand? So he's brainwashed for believing what he hears but what you hear is truth cause you say so. Good job buddy. Personnally I think both sides in this war are fawked,both at fault.
Jimmy

waderow
10-01-2009, 12:22 PM
there are countless reports and actual MEDIA that illustrate this. It is no secret. It is not a big conspiracy. Hamas uses human shields. get over it

gojimmygo.... here is your beloved hamas commenting on their choice of tactics

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g0wJXf2nt4Y

gojimmygo
10-01-2009, 12:35 PM
My beloved Hamas? Where did I state that I loved Hamas? Oh I didn't did I there buddy. Terrorists are pieces of shit. If you actually read what I said you'd see that I said both sides are ****ed.You're saying Bam is un-intelligent,brainwashed etc. because of his views. What I'm trying to say is what you're doing is no different.

Jimmy

waderow
10-01-2009, 12:59 PM
supporting a terrorist who uses kids as human shields versus supporting a government that is attacked daily by said terrorists are light years apart,. I am not in the same equation as Bam

and sorry, i thought you were taking the Hamas side there for amoment

Drummer
10-01-2009, 01:32 PM
...nevermind

waderow
10-01-2009, 01:37 PM
its possible to form an intelligent opinion by not being there, in fact, by not being there, it is possible to form an intelligent non-biased opinion.

Drummer
10-01-2009, 01:44 PM
..nevermind

Drummer
10-01-2009, 01:45 PM
...nevermind

waderow
10-01-2009, 02:29 PM
all the micro-justifications for terrorism aside.

One side employs tactics, that are designed to target, terrorize, kill, and maim civilians.

Israel is NEVER going to give up and hand away the country.

The only way for peace is to quit lobbing rockets and to quit suicide bombing.

Until that happens, I will argue to death in support of Israel. Whether I live in that hell hole or not

Drummer
10-01-2009, 02:38 PM
....nevermind.

BAM
10-01-2009, 02:41 PM
^^ K for you brother!

Drummer
10-01-2009, 02:43 PM
^^ K for you brother!

huh?

BAM
10-01-2009, 02:49 PM
Karma.. you can give people Karma on this board if you click the little scales under their avatar. Its kinda like a pat on the ass, but not as gay.
It has to do with the little green squares under your pic..

waderow
10-01-2009, 03:03 PM
honestly, if you feel so strongly about it, jump on a plane and go be a part of the solution.
~DB~

brilliant. **** you taught me a lesson
meanwhile BAMs handing out rep, when he could come face me as a hamas terrorist bitch

Drummer
10-01-2009, 03:09 PM
shoulda stayed outta this thread. sympathizers cant be reasoned with. i regret posting here. Im not on anyones side here... more concerned with what going on here at home. Please disregard my posts.

~DB~

BAM
10-01-2009, 03:31 PM
brilliant. **** you taught me a lesson
meanwhile BAMs handing out rep, when he could come face me as a hamas terrorist bitch

Now how fair would that be? tanks, Jets, scatter-bombs and helicopters vs sticks & slingshots and bottle-rockets?

Doesn't sound sporting at all.

:D

My best bet would be to infiltrate Israel and start breeding with all those hot little bitches you posted so that their offspring
wouldn't be so inbred.

waderow
10-01-2009, 03:41 PM
Now how fair would that be? tanks, Jets, scatter-bombs and helicopters vs sticks & slingshots and bottle-rockets?

Doesn't sound sporting at all.

:D

My best bet would be to infiltrate Israel and start breeding with all those hot little bitches you posted so that their offspring
wouldn't be so inbred.

lol. and that would be my main motivation to join the IDF too to be perfectly honest

BAM
10-01-2009, 05:33 PM
Well look at that.. 7 pages later we actually agree on the solution to the middle east crisis.

waderow
10-01-2009, 05:46 PM
Well look at that.. 7 pages later we actually agree on the solution to the middle east crisis.

hot israeli bitches is the secret to the universe my friend.

i am taking my next vacay there. first need to learn some jewish words n shit though