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waderow
07-01-2009, 06:01 PM
running tren and more, and not sleeping. we all get this from time to time, and what works for me is Gamma Aminobutyric Acid/ I take 2 grams before bed. I have great dreams, which tells me I am deep REM. i do wake often mid night, so next time I do, i will pop more and see if I have trouble waking. Upon reading the articles posted below however, I see my dose may be low, so tonight, 4 grams.

http://www.betterbodz.com/library/gabaquest.html


http://www.neuropharmacology.com/gaba.htm

http://www.webmd.com/sleep-disorders/news/20030912/chemical-may-link-mood-sleep-problems

Avitoholis
07-01-2009, 06:06 PM
Interesting, keep us posted on how this works. I often use melatonin and find that it increases the quality of my sleep, but I would be interested in an alternative.

tex
07-01-2009, 06:07 PM
good idea......perhaps if my wife makes me stop smokin weed i shall try.....

drdnj
07-01-2009, 06:08 PM
running tren and more, and not sleeping. we all get this from time to time, and what works for me is Gamma Aminobutyric Acid/ I take 2 grams before bed. I have great dreams, which tells me I am deep REM. i do wake often mid night, so next time I do, i will pop more and see if I have trouble waking. Upon reading the articles posted below however, I see my dose may be low, so tonight, 4 grams.

http://www.betterbodz.com/library/gabaquest.html


http://www.neuropharmacology.com/gaba.htm

http://www.webmd.com/sleep-disorders/news/20030912/chemical-may-link-mood-sleep-problems
Bro,
I hear ya...I take Benedryl and still wake up at midnight...then go back to sleep and sweat all night hahaha....Yummy Tren....

Keep Gatorade by your bed side

#8
07-01-2009, 06:12 PM
as i just mentioned in the other thread fusion makes a product called SHUTEYE that contains melatonin, and two herbs used to combat both anxiety and insomnia. might be worth looking into for you, ive heard great things about it from several people.

gustavo77
07-01-2009, 06:17 PM
Gotta try this bro. Melatonin only works for a short time for me then it stops...gotta cycle the melatonin..lol..

420
07-01-2009, 06:22 PM
Im running Tren too, had a shitty sleep last night as well. I think im gonna try melatonin or this Shuteye stuff.

AlbertaBeef
07-01-2009, 06:55 PM
I love GABA and have a big 4 lb bucket of it but it needs to be taken without any aminos and I need a shake and some food before bed.Ihave no problem sleeping on 75mg a day of tren a but I still like the effects of Gaba.

Houstonbc
07-01-2009, 06:59 PM
i usually hit the benadryl, thanks for the info bro im looking forward to trying this and to a decent sleep

WORLD
07-01-2009, 07:07 PM
Ahhh good old sleeping sickness. I lose sleep so often I'm almost getting used to living without it. Screw it, who needs sleep anyways.

Keep us posted. I'd be interested in trying it if you say it works.

Melatonin doesn't work for everyone unfortunately. Those who aren't deficient in it have other underlying problems that cause their insomnia.

waderow
07-01-2009, 07:25 PM
I love GABA and have a big 4 lb bucket of it but it needs to be taken without any aminos and I need a shake and some food before bed.Ihave no problem sleeping on 75mg a day of tren a but I still like the effects of Gaba.

where did you get the 4 pounder? and how much?

i buy 500mg caps for 19 bucks

i think you might be on to something

AlbertaBeef
07-01-2009, 08:13 PM
Superior Nutraceuticals a couple of yrs ago for about 50 bucks USD.

Krozone
07-01-2009, 08:48 PM
Just picked up some from Popeye's after reading your post.

It's from a company called "NOW FOODS"
It say's to take 1/4 level teaspoon one or more times daily as needed.

AlbertaBeef, how have you been taking it? With water?

Thx! like our Bro in Victoria, I've needed to rely on Herb to get a good sleep as of late.

Kro!

waderow
07-01-2009, 10:40 PM
Just picked up some from Popeye's after reading your post.

It's from a company called "NOW FOODS"
It say's to take 1/4 level teaspoon one or more times daily as needed.

AlbertaBeef, how have you been taking it? With water?

Thx! like our Bro in Victoria, I've needed to rely on Herb to get a good sleep as of late.

Kro!

i dont think the recommended doses are any good. The article i posted says 3-5 GRAMS before bed. For me, that is 3-7 caps more then the bottle says.

how much did you spend? whats the GABA content?

trykillthis
07-01-2009, 11:07 PM
I love GABA. I first tried it for the GH releasing properties but kept it cause I love the wicked vivid dreams. I take 3 grams before bed. At 4 or more grams I tend to get that flush\tingly\short of breath feeling for a little big. Great stuff and pretty cheap as far as supplements go.

waderow
07-01-2009, 11:13 PM
I love GABA. I first tried it for the GH releasing properties but kept it cause I love the wicked vivid dreams. I take 3 grams before bed. At 4 or more grams I tend to get that flush\tingly\short of breath feeling for a little big. Great stuff and pretty cheap as far as supplements go.

perfect timing bro! i was about to drop 4g. i will take 3 and see thanks man

Krozone
07-01-2009, 11:14 PM
Each serving 1/4 Teaspoon = 500MG.

So 1 full teaspoon = 5 Grams.

Cost was $14.00

Total servings = 340 (at 500Mg per serving)

waderow
07-01-2009, 11:15 PM
Each serving 1/4 Teaspoon = 500MG.

So 1 full teaspoon = 5 Grams.

Cost was $14.00

cool!

Krozone
07-01-2009, 11:17 PM
Did you take it with water?

waderow
07-01-2009, 11:19 PM
mine is caps, and i take it with water.

when i take dosed powders, i dump the powder in my mouth, and wash it down with water,. careful not to breathe lol

Krozone
07-01-2009, 11:20 PM
hehe, that's the concern I mentioned to my GF. lol.

waderow
07-01-2009, 11:25 PM
lol yup you'll be ****ed over in a hurry if you breath in hehehhe

waderow
08-01-2009, 08:34 AM
okay, took 3g last night about 9:45pm, felt a little stoned for a bit, and then whammo. Slept like a baby until nearly 5am. NO NIGHT SWEATS whatsoever. I feel so good right now! My skin feels good cause I wasnt sweating all night.

GABA is def my new buddy.

tonight i will try 3.5g

Krozone
08-01-2009, 09:18 AM
Dito here. Took 3g last night, about 5 minutes later as I was getting the bed ready for the night felt as if I was gonna keel over.. lol.

Both the GF and I took the same amount and as soon as we hit the pillow we were done for the night..
Had a night full of dreams. Great sleep!

Great supplimnent for only $14 !!


Kro!

toynut
08-01-2009, 10:56 AM
Long live the "Gaba Rush!"

but scary as hell the first time if you don't expect it...

giannos
08-01-2009, 11:49 AM
Each serving 1/4 Teaspoon = 500MG.

So 1 full teaspoon = 5 Grams.

Cost was $14.00

Total servings = 340 (at 500Mg per serving)


Wouldn't one full teaspoon be 2 Grams ? :D

Krozone
08-01-2009, 12:00 PM
Sorry, guess I'm still feeling the effects... lol..:>

giannos
08-01-2009, 12:21 PM
Sorry, guess I'm still feeling the effects... lol..:>

lol, sounds like nice feedback.. I'm gonna pick some up and give it a shot. Melatonin works for me but sometimes reverses and gives me insomnia...

#8
08-01-2009, 03:28 PM
Wouldn't one full teaspoon be 2 Grams ? :D

a teaspoon measures 5 grams. it depends on how you scoop it though. i believe a leveled off teaspoon is 5 grams in total. but if you look at their dosage of 1/4 tsp = 500 mg, this means that one 1 full tsp only = 2 g, not 5. im not sure if it really make that much of a difference, you are prolly best off scooping 1 full tsp, levelling it, then removing a little bit. we are talking only a few mg difference so im not sure if it really matters that much. it seems safe to take even at higher doses, and i am wanting to try some now to see how it works. thanks for the info guys.

trykillthis
08-01-2009, 06:27 PM
Each serving 1/4 Teaspoon = 500MG.

So 1 full teaspoon = 5 Grams. <---Wouldn't this be 2g

Cost was $14.00

Total servings = 340 (at 500Mg per serving)

TKT