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smukker
07-01-2009, 12:31 AM
Just trying to put together a solid PCT
Weeks 1-6 40 mg Dbol per day
Weeks 1-15 600 mg Test Enth. a week
Weeks 17-19 40mg Nolvadex per day
Weeks 20-22 20mg Nolvadex per day

Also have heard many things about HCG and was wondering how/If I would need it in my cycle. And also what would I use if I felt gyno coming on?? some say Nolva 20mg ED??

Reason for 15 week cycle is 1 vial= 5 weeks, 10 too short, 15 sounded great to me.
SA Test E 300mg/ml x 2 a week = 600mg a week
SA D-bol 20mg capsules, 2 a day = 40 mg a day


How does this all sound for a newbie.

nisser
07-01-2009, 01:07 AM
Drop the dbol, and go for 10 weeks only; maybe 11-12 at 500ish mg/week. It's your first cycle.

PCT looks ok. If you 'feel' gyno coming on, I'd say use 40mg/ed nolva for a week.

St
07-01-2009, 08:08 AM
T-bol would be a better pick,but if you have the D-bol onhand then do it.As for hcg i like 2500-5000iu per shot all you need is 2 shots max at 5000iu every 5 days.

z83
07-01-2009, 08:19 AM
you can't realy do 15weeks with 3 bottles of 10ml. More like 12-13w.

spiderman7
07-01-2009, 08:46 AM
I agree with sticking with one compound only which is test for first cycles. Run it for 10 to 12 weeks and see how you respond.

waderow
07-01-2009, 10:19 AM
12 weeks is an ideal length for minimal sides. IMO 10 is not quite long enough. those last 2 weeks will be your best
that being said, 14 isnt crazy. go for it but do your pct and give yourself a break before the next.

how old are you btw?

smukker
07-01-2009, 01:15 PM
well one bottle contains 10 ml, 1 ml = 1 shot, 2 shots a week. 10 divided by 2 equals 5 weeks. so one bottle gets me 5 weeks, 3 bottles gets me 15 weeks. thanks

Big D
07-01-2009, 03:30 PM
well one bottle contains 10 ml, 1 ml = 1 shot, 2 shots a week. 10 divided by 2 equals 5 weeks. so one bottle gets me 5 weeks, 3 bottles gets me 15 weeks. thanks

you always end up wasting abit.

getting rid of air bubbles, etc..

so it probably wont be exactly 15 weeks.

Avitoholis
07-01-2009, 04:06 PM
I understand the appeal to taking only one compound as a first timer but I really believe that the Dbol would work out very nicely for you, maybe 4-5 week kick start would be fine and I imagine 20mg's would be enough. As for the pct I think you should wait slightly longer than two weeks to start. Check this for an idea. link. http://www.bulkmuscle.com/pct/ Just my two cents.

Drummer
09-01-2009, 02:42 AM
Its impossible to guess what will happen or how you will react. Thats why you stick to just test for the first time. 500mg a week is fine. Start slow, dont jump in with a stack. I did 250mg a week for 10 weeks the first time, and it did wonders. Dont do the nolva till 10 days after your last shot. IF you feel itchy, sore, swollen nipples, you are gyno sensetive at this dose. Start nolva immediately at 40mg ED until gone, then ride out the rest of cycle at 20mg ED. Only use it on cycle IF you need it. Other than that id only run it at the end like i mentioned. You only have to run it a few weeks, 4 should do. IMHO, thats the best way to start. Next time, youll know how to design a cycle based on those results. Oh yea.... hope you got your training/eating/resting down pat!

very simple looks like this :

300mg test e E3D for 10 weeks
20mg nolva ED 10 days after last shot for 4 weeks.



~DB~

kloan
09-01-2009, 02:50 AM
you always end up wasting abit.

getting rid of air bubbles, etc..

so it probably wont be exactly 15 weeks.
I really wish this was something mentioned in the noob guides. I had to learn the hard way and am now trying to find something down here. Big f'in pain in the ass.

From my experience, 10ml = 4 weeks.