T3; Conservative but effective?

[Blitz-Test]

What is a conservative dose of T3 that will still deliver postive results on metabolism and protein synthesis?

I just took 25mcg, I was planning on

Week 1: 25mcg
Week 2: 37.5mcg
Week 3: 50mcg
Week 4: 25mcg

Week 5: ECA
Week 6: ECA


Do you think these doses will deliver results

[Dk]

didnt you just start bulking in december?

or maybe i have people mixed up here

[Blitz-Test]

didnt you just start bulking in december?

or maybe i have people mixed up here

i dont typically bulk/cut like most people, I stay lean year round, I am just wanted to kick my food consumption into hyperdrive, with minimal fat gain, i like to stick around 10%, however I want to add another 1000calories/day,

I am on tnt, and was running dbol, i am not trying to cut to like 4-6% but dont wanna jump up to 14-16

[Dk]

i dont typically bulk/cut like most people, I stay lean year round, I am just wanted to kick my food consumption into hyperdrive, with minimal fat gain, i like to stick around 10%, however I want to add another 1000calories/day,

I am on tnt, and was running dbol, i am not trying to cut to like 4-6% but dont wanna jump up to 14-16

yah thats what i meant.

didnt know you were still on the tnt.

i get it now haha.

i thought you were doing this and already off the tnt

[Blitz-Test]

yah thats what i meant.

didnt know you were still on the tnt.

i get it now haha.

i thought you were doing this and already off the tnt

No think ill hit 2 more weeks with the tren any maybe 6 with the test... then its off for 3-4 months

[shivsean]

I am on week 2 of 75mcg ED of legit, USA pharma grade T3 and I getting very limited fat loss. WTF?:confused:

[natenator]

I personally don't believe T3 to have THAT big of an impact as people seem to think it does.

[Lykalotopus]

I personally don't believe T3 to have THAT big of an impact as people seem to think it does.

Agreed.

FYI - Been cutting for my vacation, week 4 of T3 down 11lbs this month.

[Baconbits]

I find a dose of 25mcgs is perfect for me when I run long bulking cycles

Here's an interesting post from professional muscle;

Raver's T-3 article
This is one of my favorite articles. Here is what I have of it. I thought it would be a nice addition

Cytomel (Mexican Cynomel) Synthetic T-3 amd Clenbuterol Stacking - A Quick Weight Loss Solution
This is to be a far from scientific article, one based, rather, in practical experience in losing weight and helping others to lose weight. We are not, on the average, concerned with obese individuals, but those who have packed on an additional 12-25 pounds beyond what was expected in a traditional steroid cycle, and the weeks beyond.

Not all of us will gain this type of weight during a cycle, but those of us who use a high protein / high calorie diet in conjunction with heavy weight lifting, accompanied by a medium to high dosed androgenic (i.e., Dianabol, Testosterone, Trenbolone (Finaplix or Component T-H)) steroid cycle, will almost always pack on an additional 6-20 pounds of pure lard. Granted that Burger King, Hooters, and Papadeux are not on the traditional bodybuilders menu, many of us are either forced, or by personal inclination, choose to indulge in calorie/fat bombs in order to provide the necessary building blocks for muscle.
Who, after all, can subsist on 3-5 protein shakes a day? I certainly can't, and from what I've seen of the advice on the boards, a Whopper or 2 every other day seems to be the prescribed regimen for gaining LBM - the prized Lean Body Mass.
Let's look at that paradigm for a moment - LBM. Sure and granted, we all seek this Holy Grail of Bodybuilding, but too many novices and mid-level bodybuilders alike sacrifice gaining pure muscle mass, in favor of gaining 2-6 pounds of LBM with a $400 - $1100 steriod cycle - all because they want to stay lean.
I might be wrong (it's been known to happen, albeit once a year or so), but if I'm going to invest that kind of dough, I want to see some by God muscle appear. In order to build the kind of muscle I expect from a cycle, I need to consume 4000 - 6000 calories a day, depending upon what I'm doing (Touch Football, Softball, or Indoor Soccer season). Those calories don't ALL go towards LBM, many (sometimes too many) go towards pure lard.
Don't get me wrong, the intensity you apply in the gym does, in fact, burn some serious fat, while at the same time channeling blood, nutrients, and the cherished PUMP to your muscles. However, if you intend to gain serious mass, and here I give kudos to the WarPig, you'll bulk and bloat.
Damnit, the bloat. We don't want to look like Beachballs, we want to look like Footballs - tight, tapered, lean in all the right places. How to eat the necessary calories, the necessary protein, the absolutely essential, energy giving Carbohydrates, without the dreaded bloat?

Here's where the first application of T-3 comes in. I won't quote any studies (there are few), but from personal experience, and the experience of those amatuer and mid-level bodybuilders I've helped, a 25-50mcg dosage of T-3, per day, will help to reduce bloating and water retention, while at the same time enhancing the effect of whatever steriod (androgenic or anabolic) the user chooses. It won't, by any means, keep the mass from piling on, but it will eliminate the dreaded moon face and the hideous stomach bloat.

The second application of T-3 is intended to quickly reduce the blubber produced by a serious mass cycle, and ALWAYS, always includes Clenbuterol. Say, for example, you've done a Raver Cycle - 2g Test, 600mg Deca, and 50-75mg Dbol a day, for 12 weeks. You've devoured 3 Cornish Game Hens at a meal, wolfed down a double Whopper with cheese, but no Mayo every other day, and forced yourself to eat spaghetti with meatballs, cottage cheese, herb-seasoned chicken breasts, pork tenderloins, meatloaf, oatmeal, grits, and eggs, eggs, eggs, tuna tuna tuna, along with 2-3 daily protein shakes.
Trust me - you're fat. You look big as shit in the mirror, but you have no abs, no separation, and no definition. The remedy?
Weigh yourself. For every pound, use 1mcg of T-3. If you weigh 180, and you look fat, use 175mcg of T-3. If you weigh 250, and you look fat, use 250mcg of T-3. Round the dosage down to the nearest 25mcg, and stack Clenbuterol at 5-12 tabs a day for 6 weeks. Follow a CKD diet, such as Body Opus or Animalobolics, do 15-20 minutes of Cardio for the first 3 weeks, and watch the fat shed.

T-3 by itself produces sweat like there's no tomorrow - you'll have wet spots under your arms, under your pecs, in the crack of your ass, and, on your forehead. You might get the shakes.
T-3, stacked with Clenbuterol, will give you all of the above mentioned sweats, along with the shakes...your hands, your legs (stairs are really a bitch), and your neck, on occasion. If you have a job like mine, where the shakes are undesirable, use a potassium supplement or eat 2-3 bananas a day, it will alleviate them.

In summary, T-3 has two uses - eliminating bloat and water retention during a cycle, and rapid weight loss after a cycle. One of the things to remember while using this drug is that it DOES NOT DISCRIMINATE between LBM and pure fat - it eats tissue, period. I used T-3 exactly twice before figuring out that it should never be used without at least 400mg of Testosterone, preferably, in dieting mode, Propionate. A post cycle regimen of 1mcg T-3 per pound of bodyweight, along with Clenbuterol and a 50-100mg / day dosage of Test Prop, will work absolute wonders.
And now, for the Raver challenge (the third in 14 months) - If anyone - ANYONE can produce scientific, verifiable evidence that synthetic T-3 (Cytomel, Cynomel) causes thyroid shutdown in humans after prolonged, high dose use - I'll send them $100. A major medical journal, a study by a top 10 ranked pharmaceutical firm, or verifiable results of a personal medical evaluation (verifiable via documentation and confirmation by the physician) are acceptable. Barring that, let's not hear any further argument about the horrible side effects of T-3

[natenator]

1mcg per LB of bodyweight?

Anyone want to try that? lol

[Gettin'r'round]

1mcg per LB of bodyweight?

Anyone want to try that? lol

That is an internet expert talking. I would not ever go over 100mcg but that's me.

[natenator]

That is an internet expert talking. I would not ever go over 100mcg but that's me.
I'm not sure I'd touch anything over 75. Just can't believe someone add to this thread with a post from another board where the person is suggesting 1mcg per pound of bodyweight.

[shivsean]

I'm not sure I'd touch anything over 75. Just can't believe someone add to this thread with a post from another board where the person is suggesting 1mcg per pound of bodyweight.

Can you expand on your results at 75mg ED? What kind/duration/frequency of cardio?

[natenator]

Can you expand on your results at 75mg ED? What kind/duration/frequency of cardio?
3 months duration for contest prep. Contest prep was 5 months. Nice and slow...

combined with clen

cardio 45 mins empty stomach in morning and 45 mins before last meal of the day (before bed). Training was done mid-day.

Didn't use anytime before that.