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UkrainianGuy
06-01-2009, 07:44 PM
There’s a slight sense of amusement coming from Freddie Roach when he breaks down student Andre Arlovski’s fight with Fedor Emelianenko. Roach is a man who's has spent his entire life looking at the hands as weapons, along with the subtle and not-so-subtle elements that make boxing a science. But he's been thrown into the world of MMA through Arlovski, and he's doing his best to take it in stride. His vocabulary is limited; when he looks at Arlovski’s chances, it’s really just a best guess. When the topic of Emelianenko’s armbar comes up, a smile creeps onto his face.

“He looks pretty effective on the ground from what I can see,” Roach says. “He’s really good at the armbar, I guess it’s called. How he gets those guys in the position for an armbar is pretty clever.”

Still, Roach knows what his student is up against. Facing Emelianenko is as much about his legend as his fighting ability.

“If I saw him in the street, I wouldn’t be scared of him,” he says with another smile. “But I’d be wrong.”

Roach’s stock has skyrocketed in the past five years, due in no small part to his work with the boxing greats of today: Manny Pacquiao, Oscar De La Hoya, Bernard Hopkins, and a little further back, Mike Tyson, Michael Moorer, and James Toney. His Wild Card Gym is still frugal; there’s no expensive gym equipment, just a couple of rings, a few heavybags, speedbags, and a plywood plank for jumping rope. It’s cramped. The only thing that gives the room its expanse is the thousands of fight posters that cover every inch of available wall.

It’s still cheap to train there—50 bucks a month to come to the gym, five bucks a round for a trainer. If you get him, Roach’s brother, Dominic Pepper, will give you three rounds for ten bucks, and he’ll tell you his life story, too.

Still battling Parkinson’s disease brought on by a fight resume in the hundreds, Roach answers the phone when not tending to his students. It’s true what he and many others have said about him—when in the ring, the symptoms of his condition lessen.

Arlovski first paces when MMAWeekly talks to Roach, then starts filming the interview for his web series, Arlovski 360, that chronicles his journey to the Emelianenko fight at Jan. 24’s “Day of Reckoning.”

“I think Andre’s good at leglocks, from what I can understand,” Roach offers. “He’s a Sambo champion too, so he knows the ground game.”

The two met three years ago through a mutual friend named Billy. Roach recognized Arlovski’s talent, but couldn’t get a feel for him as a person.

“Good sense of humor when you get to know him,” says Roach. “When you don’t know him, you don’t know which way to go with him…he’s dry.”

Arlovski has made five trips to Los Angeles since 2005, working with Roach to refine his boxing skills. At Wild Card, he’s just another student, albeit one with an extra pair of trainers following him around. When other students cram the speed bag area, he has to dodge them to avoid a collision. They pay him little mind.

Pepper says the gym has seen an influx of MMA fighters looking to improve their standup skills. It’s not his cup of tea.

“I think it’s boring,” he says, looking unamused. “I saw one fight where the guy just laid on the other guy the whole fight and he won.”

Roach, on the other hand, is committed to solving the riddle of Emelianenko, even if his plan is built on the notion that the Russian stands up.

“As far as his stand up game, we’ll kill him,” says Roach. “If we can keep the fight standing up, if he chooses to fight us like a man, we’ll dominate him.”

In the ring, Roach drills Arlovksi on quick shifts of direction, using footwork to evade a rapidly advancing opponent. Roach lunges in, Arlovski cuts an angle, and returns fire with a right cross, left hook combination. Then he puts Arlovski against the ropes, using them to get out of danger when pressed. Arlovski’s focus is there; he seems to hang on Roach’s every word.

The way Roach sees Emelianenko, it’s not so much about staying away from his swarming attack as using his habits against him.

“Just be smart with it,” he says. “Use your angles when they’re necessary, but after you land a combination, because after you land a combination with Fedor, he’s going to throw back. That’s his instinct. He throws one punch after the other. He’s very predictable. He makes the same moves every time. He’s very common. His boxing game is weak.”

Through their years together, Roach says he sees a more focused Arlovski, particularly after the native Belarusian tested the free agency waters.

“His mental side of the game right now is much better than it was when he was with the other guys,” Roach says. “He seems comfortable with Affliction, and they pay him the money he’s supposed to be getting. He’s happier, he’s refocused. He was unhappy with the other people, and he was just kind of going through the motions.”

As Arlovski earlier told MMAWeekly, the timing of the bout feels right. He lost his UFC heavyweight belt, and served the rest of his contract fighting less-than-champions. While Dana White and the UFC want him back, he and his management don’t appear in a rush to re-sign. He’s an Affliction fighter, but his career is more on his own terms. By breaking from the Las Vegas-based organization, he gets to do what every heavyweight wants to do: face the world’s top ranked fighter.

Roach goes back to his desk after the interview, sitting on a stool behind a counter next to the front door. Arlovski throws his gear into a bag and tells Freddie he’ll be back in six hours for sparring, when UFC middleweight champion Anderson Silva is supposed to show up. It’s another long day at the office.

While Roach’s viewpoint may be limited, he feels his student will triumph.

“From what I can see, I think Andre’s going to be sharper,” he says. “I think we’re going to knock him out.”




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UkrainianGuy
07-01-2009, 11:05 AM
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Boulderer77
07-01-2009, 12:44 PM
Nobody beats Fedor

turboturist
07-01-2009, 03:13 PM
Nobody beats Fedor

I would not bet on AA beating Fedor but with all the upsets that have happened this past year who the hell really knows any more?

Boulderer77
07-01-2009, 03:34 PM
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L3
08-01-2009, 08:49 AM
what a joke fedor is gonna destroy arlofski

UkrainianGuy
24-01-2009, 09:07 PM
http://www.wrestlinglivetv.com/livestream.htm


http://allboxing.ru/


http://live-wwehd.piczo.com/?cr=5

BAM
24-01-2009, 09:59 PM
Fedor!

Proteinkiller
24-01-2009, 10:08 PM
THX UK for the stream!!!!

UkrainianGuy
24-01-2009, 10:23 PM
http://www.justin.tv/emmatv

scroll to the bottom..

UkrainianGuy
24-01-2009, 10:56 PM
Dayum!!!! Vitor laid Lindland out holy shit!!!

UkrainianGuy
24-01-2009, 11:21 PM
Barnett has fullmount for over a round straight and couldnt finish him!!!!! Eventually, but MAN, even i could have finished him.. lol

UkrainianGuy
24-01-2009, 11:24 PM
Whoa, Dr Scott Conolly gets more cudos at Affliction by Barnette

UkrainianGuy
24-01-2009, 11:29 PM
straight up... Fedor wins i will FINALLY jump on his band wagon. Thus leaving AA's followers.

proximo
24-01-2009, 11:33 PM
Thank you so much bro.

proximo
24-01-2009, 11:40 PM
wow

UkrainianGuy
24-01-2009, 11:40 PM
WTF!!!!!!!!!!!

proximo
24-01-2009, 11:42 PM
wow!

UkrainianGuy
24-01-2009, 11:43 PM
mid air man.. wow... whos next!?!

proximo
24-01-2009, 11:44 PM
No doubt. AA did not see that coming at all.

O-Train
24-01-2009, 11:45 PM
WTF!!!!!!!!!!!

Are you suprised? Arlovski did better than I thought he would. Flying knee attempt wasn't a great idea.

UkrainianGuy
24-01-2009, 11:45 PM
like a bag of shit AA falls on his face mid air, after Fedor throws a punch.. BAM!

I am shocked!

UkrainianGuy
25-01-2009, 12:19 AM
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turboturist
25-01-2009, 05:51 AM
Fedor vs AA Gif, I wish the gif was a bit slower.

AA jumped right into a power shot and it landed right on the botton.

http://i44.tinypic.com/2s7ytg7.gif

turboturist
25-01-2009, 05:55 AM
Seeing Lindland shake like this is kinda scary.

http://i44.tinypic.com/6nse15.jpg

St
25-01-2009, 07:03 AM
Seeing Lindland shake like this is kinda scary.

http://i44.tinypic.com/6nse15.jpg

Ya very sad to see him like that.
But now for Fedor one good shot only in,lights out.

srt8
25-01-2009, 10:58 AM
At the original angle of the punch i thought AA took a dive in the fight lol, the the replay from another angle he got clipped good! That lindland fight was the longest i've ever waited to a see a Fk'n replay, seemed like 10 mins.

champcar99
25-01-2009, 11:28 AM
the was the luckiest blind shot I have seen...AA got REAL lucky on that...
rematch ...

srt8
25-01-2009, 11:48 AM
Fedor got lucky u mean?
I think AA was winning the fight at that point but no doubt in my mind Fedor woulda grinded it out and won it one way or another.

UkrainianGuy
25-01-2009, 06:44 PM
MMAWeekly has obtained the fighter salary information from the California State Athletic Commission for Affliction "Day of Reckoning" featuring Fedor Emelianenko vs. Andrei Arlovski, which took place on Saturday, Jan. 24, at the Honda Center in Anaheim, Calif.

The following figures are based on the fighter salary information that promoters are required by law to submit to the state athletic commissions, including the winners' bonuses.

Although mixed martial arts fighters do not have collective bargaining or a union, the fighters' salaries are still public record, just as with every other major sport in the United States. Any undisclosed bonuses that a promoter also pays its fighters, but does not disclose to the athletic commissions (specifically, pay-per-view bonuses, fight of the night bonuses, etc.), are not included in the figures below.

In the listings below, "Main Event Fighters" are defined as fighters who compete in the main event of a show. "Main Card Fighters" are defined as fighters whose fights appear on the main card, but not in the main event. "Preliminary Card Fighters" are defined as fighters whose matches take place before the main card goes on the air, regardless of whether or not those matches end up airing on the TV or Internet broadcast.


MAIN EVENT FIGHTERS

– Fedor Emelianenko $300,000 (no win bonus) def. Andre Arlovski $1,500,000 (win bonus would have been $250,000)


MAIN CARD FIGHTERS

– Josh Barnett $500,000 (no win bonus) def. Gilbert Yvel $30,000 (win bonus would have been $9,300)

– Vitor Belfort $200,000 (includes $80,000 win bonus) def. Matt Lindland $225,000 (win bonus would have been $75,000)

– Renato "Babalu" Sobral $90,000 (includes $30,000 win bonus) def. Rameau Thierry Sokoudjou $50,000 (win bonus would have been $50,000)

– Paul Buentello $90,000 (includes $20,000 win bonus) def. Kiril Sidelnikov $10,000 (win bonus would have been $25,000)

– Dan Lauzon $12,000 (no win bonus) def. Bobby Green $4,000 (win bonus would have been $4,000)


PRELIMINARY CARD FIGHTERS

– Jay Hieron $45,000 (includes $25,000 win bonus) def. Jason High $10,000 (win bonus would have been $5,000)

– Antonio Rogerio Nogueira $150,000 (includes $30,000 win bonus) def. Vladimir Matyushenko $50,000 (win bonus would have been $30,000)

– L.C. Davis $14,000 (includes $7,000 win bonus) def. Bao Quach $7,000 (win bonus would have been $6,000)

– Albert Rios $6,000 (includes $3,000 win bonus) def. Antonio Duarte $3,000 (win bonus would have been $2,000)

– Brett Cooper $10,000 (includes $5,000 win bonus) def. Patrick Speight $2,000 (win bonus would have been $3,000)


AFFLICTION "DAY OF RECKONING" DISCLOSED FIGHTER PAYROLL: $3,308,000

UkrainianGuy
25-01-2009, 06:47 PM
CARRYING THE WEIGHT OF LOSS, ARLOVSKI REFLECTS

"(Andrei Arlovski) was winning the fight handily I thought, controlling the fight like we planned," assessed Arlovski's boxing trainer, Freddie Roach. "He got a little cocky, and he tried the flying knee from too far away, no setup, and he paid for it.



"Fedor swings hard, that's his thing. He probably had his eye closed, but he just got lucky, I think," he continued. "If we had followed a more disciplined fight, and kept to the game plan, I think it was going to be easy."



That may be simplifying Fedor Emelianenko's abilities just a tad, but Roach's assessment is not all that distorted by the fighter-colored goggles of a trainer.



Arlovski was doing well up until the point that Fedor struck back with a bone-crushing right hand. He had the WAMMA champion moving backwards and as flustered as we've ever seen him.



Fedor didn't become regarded as the top heavyweight fighter in the world for no reason, however. He's been in tough positions before. Perhaps more than anything, Fedor is a master of capitalizing on that one little lapse in judgment, that sliver of an opening that can change the outcome of the fight, as he did on Saturday night.



Arlovski would likely agree, believing that it was his approach, his lapse in judgment that was his downfall against the greatest heavyweight fighter on the planet. It wasn't just the momentary lapse during the fight – deciding to throw the flying knee when he didn't need to – that Arlovski identified in talking with MMAWeekly.com after the fight.



"I just talk to my trainers about the fight and they tell me just need to be more disciplined. I think it is a problem for me," said Arlovski, the grief apparent in his quiet demeanor.



"I think it was the reason I lost my fight against Fedor tonight."



Staring straight into the camera, he didn't throw the blame at his trainers for not finding a way to get him focused.



"I can blame only on myself," Arlovski said with the full weight of the loss reflected in his watery eyes.



"I saw all my punches landed in right place. I don't know why it was idea was in my head to do flying knee... He just cocked his right hand and one thing about Fedor, his punch all the time is very accurate and he caught me on my jaw."



Relaying that he has been reminded time and again to stay focused, Arlovski says he continually put off the request of his coaches, believing there was always more time, always another day. But on Saturday night, time ran out, and he was left only to reassess.



"My trainers, they told me, do everything 100 percent. Not from one trainer, all of my trainers. Everyone had told me I have to be 100 percent disciplined and I have to be 100 percent disciplined about everything, about training, about life, about, like, I have to keep clear my head."



It took Fedor Emelianenko's crushing right hand to drive the point home, but alone with his thoughts the point was one that was not lost on Arlovski.



"I think it's another lesson for me, and 100 percent, I will take lesson from my loss tonight to Emelianenko."

srt8
25-01-2009, 09:36 PM
Anyone mind explaining why Arvloski got paid 5x what Fedor did?

O-Train
25-01-2009, 09:58 PM
Anyone mind explaining why Arvloski got paid 5x what Fedor did?

Yeah was that a typo? I hope it was the other way around. Arlovski is a joke compared to Fedor.

He didn't have a snowballs chance in hell of winning that fight. Regardless of what his trainer thinks. So he worked on his boxing, big deal. The guy has no chin and if it had lasted much longer Fedor would have made him look like a little girl on the ground. I also think he's too small to compete as a heavyweight. 6' 4'' 237. I wish they would get some new fighters. I'm tired of seeing the same guys being recycled through the system. Rematch? Why? They should go round up some roughnecks and put them in the ring/octagon, it would be a hell of a lot more interesting.

gordi
26-01-2009, 04:44 PM
Seeing Lindland shake like this is kinda scary.

http://i44.tinypic.com/6nse15.jpg

That was the most frightening KO I've seen since Bernard Ackah vs. Johnnie Morton at K-1 HERO*S Dynamite!! USA. I hope The Law's doing OK.

Boulderer77
26-01-2009, 05:44 PM
Ktfo !

UkrainianGuy
27-01-2009, 08:38 AM
The best trainers, like the best fighters, are never satisfied with a performance less than perfection. In MMA, it’s a hopeless pursuit – there are too many variables to subtract from even the most highly trained athlete’s showing.

That doesn't mean they don't push, scream, and beg fighters towards that end.

Fedor Emelianenko is the consensus top heavyweight in the world, and with that title comes the expectation that his skills are a combination of talent and the best preparation in the world.

But Emelianenko’s performance at Affliction’s “Day of Reckoning” drew a mixture of gushing praise and caution. While it was undisputable that the fight’s end – shooting challenger Andrei Arlovski out of the sky with a right hand – proved his dominance, the preceding three minutes were not the brilliance normally associated with the champ.

And according to one of his trainers, Vladimir Voronov, who spoke to MMAWeekly.com and SI.com about Saturday’s rout, Emelianenko was not prepared to his satisfaction.

“I said, 'Fedor, are we going to film this movie?’" said Voronov backstage at the conclusion of “Reckoning.” “(He said) ‘No, I’m not going to film this movie, I’m gonna work.’"

Emelianenko did the opposite, filming an action movie in Thailand with Rutger Hauer and Michael Madsen. Between takes, he trained. The real camp, away from the soundstage, was just 30 days long.

“If he wants to keep winning, he can’t be spending too much time on these commercials and these movies,” complained Voronoz. “Afterwards, after the win. For a fighter, the most important thing is work, work, work. Fedor wants to keep winning, and keep winning well. He needs to train professionally.”

Voronov had a blunt assessment of the overhand right that won the fight. Emelianenko prevailed because of his natural talent and a wealth of experience against top competition. Voronov was also well aware of Arlovski’s vulnerabilities, which he tried to impart to his student.

“Arlovski is of a Slavic heart, and a Slavic soul,” Voronov explained. “Arlovski decided to (expletive) everything and go forward, and that’s why he paid.”

Emelianenko will not be so lucky against his apparent next opponent, Josh Barnett.

“Barnett is of a different soul,” he continued. “If Arlovski is a master in chess, then Barnett is a grandmaster.

“The fact that Fedor won, don’t get me wrong, I’m very happy. But he won this fight because of the work he did before training that he did before this fight, because of the experience he had before this fight.”

Happy would be best way to describe Emelianenko’s dressing room post-fight. His supporters crammed the room, toasting the champion repeatedly with Russian water, or vodka, as the room fogged with body heat. Emelianenko himself abstained from the indulgence, and shortly thereafter left for a sit-down dinner at an upscale restaurant in Anaheim, Calif.

But there was a tangible feeling from Voronov that his fighter had dodged a bullet.

“Right now, he won with his old baggage, with his old tricks,” he said. “We did everything we can to get him ready for this fight. But for these title fights, for these dangerous fights, we can’t train the way we trained for this fight.”

evoke
22-02-2009, 11:24 AM
lindland got murdered. it was brutal to watch.