options for 2009 cycles

[oharad]

ok guys here is my history:

cycle 1 : sust 250 + deca 200mg wkly for 8 wks

cycle 2 : dbol (40mg 2* daily) for 5 wks clen and T3 for 2 on 2 off (all in all 10 wk) I know i knwo i was young and dumb

cycle 3: 750mg ICN test 600mg deca wks 1-12 40mg
dbol wk 1-5

cycle 4: 2 shots TNT wk 1-16 600mg EQ wk 1-14 anadrol wk 1-4 tbol wk 14-18

Cycle 5: longest cycle yet .... get ready
wk 1-4 100mg prop eod
2shot TNT

wk 5-10 2 shots TNT

wk 11-12 2 shot TNT
400mg mast enth

wk 13-20 100mg prop EOD
400mg mast
added in Halo at 40mg ED for last 4 wks and winni at 50mg


Found longer cycle work much better for me. Prop in EO is tolerable for pain and keeps me dryer. Tren makes me very strong and moody...anadrol makes me strong and bloated as does dbol.Tbol was not effective for me.

Her are my options of 09

option 1 run one long ass cycle March - end of aug

wk 1-4 100mg prop with 2 shots TNT

wks 4- 12 2 shots TNT

Wks 13-24 profina EOD with mast enth (if i can find it again) prop if not

through in winni for wk 20-24

OPTION 2 2 cycles

cycle 1 feb and march

Preofina EOD
winni in last 4 wks at 50mg

cycle 2 may-end aug

profina eod
mastron aournd 400mg a wk
winni for july
halo for aug


Thoughts? questions? concerns? suggestions? all welcome....obvioulsy i am just beginning to think about my options and Aux need to be added in.

I cam off a 20 wker Nov 22. So I plan to be off cycle for at least 10wksso earliest i will start is Feb 9/09

[bigdaddydrew123]

man thatsway too complicated i cant even figure it out by reading it,why not just do test as a base throw in some other compound like eq or deca,i agree on longer cycles but keep it simple

[oharad]

basically if i go option1 I am gonna do this

Wk 1-12 TNT with a 4 wk prop kickstart
then switch over to profina in summer to keep a lil dryer

wk 13-20 profina + mastron

wk 20-24 profina + mastron + winni

may switch from profina to straight prop at wk 13 to give liver a break from tren

[St]

basically if i go option1 I am gonna do this

Wk 1-12 TNT with a 4 wk prop kickstart
then switch over to profina in summer to keep a lil dryer

wk 13-20 profina + mastron

wk 20-24 profina + mastron + winni

may switch from profina to straight prop at wk 13 to give liver a break from tren



Just make it simple and do Profina right from the start,then you won't need to kick start.My training partner has been on over 1 year straight with TNT.You can make 1000 different cycles.

[shithead]

Just make it simple and do Profina right from the start,then you won't need to kick start.My training partner has been on over 1 year straight with TNT.You can make 1000 different cycles.

What were his gains like after one year on TNT?

How is his BP? Cholesterol/lipid/value?

[Big D]

just like tony said, jump on profina right away, keep it simple. it will work great

[InsulinShock]

I agree with previous posts. What's the point of starting of with longer acting esters than switching to shorter ones? It's going to be harder to keep your blood levels constant than just sticking to what you started with in the first place. If you don't mind EOD injects then go with the short esters because it's easier to keep blood concentrations consistant. Another couple bonuses are reaching peak hormone levels in significantly less time as well as clearing in less time. This would equate to results in a shorter period of time as well as a shorter wait for HPTA recover post-cycle.

[oharad]

ya my issue with just hoping on profina is the EOD shots for sucha long period of time.

i only have 4 places i feel comfortable shooting ...R and L delt and R and L glute.

tried quads MANY times hit nervess every time

[InsulinShock]

ya my issue with just hoping on profina is the EOD shots for sucha long period of time.

i only have 4 places i feel comfortable shooting ...R and L delt and R and L glute.

tried quads MANY times hit nervess every time

Limiting yourself to those sites you are still only hitting the same site once ever 8 days. Use the smallest guage possible. Or just start and finish with TTE.

[oharad]

2 injectable drugs shot EOD = 6-8 injections a week over 4 sites times 6months

so a 2 week glimpse woukld be like this:

mon profina - r glute
tues mast - r delt
wed profina - l glute
thurs mast - l delt
fri profine - r glute
sat mast - r delt
sun profina - l glute

mon mast - l delt
tues profina - r glute
wed mast - r delt
thurs profina - l glute
fri mast - l delt
sat profina - r glute
sun mast - r delt

so thats 2 shots a week in eaach site

i coudl switch to EOD injections adn put mast and profina in the same barrel. but stil 2 shots a week in each site

[oharad]

does anyone still make mastron enth? i had some by O***t in my last cycle worked great

[Big D]

IMO thats to much injections in the same spots. did you ever try your chest, depending on your size chest injections are pretty smooth. I started them a year ago and it must be one of my best spots.

[oharad]

nah cant bring myself to do chest.... to ****in freaky.

wouldnt mind switchin to mast enth to cut down injection frequency but i dunno who makes it still

[St]

What were his gains like after one year on TNT?

How is his BP? Cholesterol/lipid/value?


Gains he is still getting stronger all the time.
1ml and a half ml Tnt A**** total 600mg
1ml and a half A*** t-400 total 600mg
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1200mg

Will have to ask him about his Lipid/value,but i do know he doesn't have any blood pressure problems,only when ge did 2400 for a weeks just to see how strong the stuff really is.His last Blood test was good in the late summer.He get his blood work every 6 month.The only time he had blood pressure was on D-bol in the past 50-100mg ed many years ago,he hasn't taken any tabs in over 2 year.

[InsulinShock]

i coudl switch to EOD injections adn put mast and profina in the same barrel. but stil 2 shots a week in each site

Why wouldn't you do EOD injects and draw both substances into the same syringe? Am I missing something here?

[nisser]

nah cant bring myself to do chest.... to ****in freaky.

wouldnt mind switchin to mast enth to cut down injection frequency but i dunno who makes it still

If you keep doing that you will seriously not ever again be able to pin those sites in the near future. Start pinning quads and given your cycle history you should be able to comfortably pin each quad in 2 different sites.

[oharad]

2cc in a delt at once is a lil mush no?

dont think i will ever be able to pic chest to be honest. As for quads.... i got room to hit quads in 2-3 spots.....just hit a nerve every ****in time i try. Literally last 3 times i hit nerve on 3 attempts at each quad ....yes count it 6 nerves in 1 day.... said **** it and hit the delt.

if i coult locate some mast enth that woudl be much better