Acne

[tiramisu]

I'm looking for a little insight...

My good friend has recently switched from 600 mg/wk of test e to 200 mg/wk HRT dosage.

Result nasty hormonal type acne. The flare up seems to be subsiding after about 3 weeks of nasty sore pimples. Not gone but at least on the right side of healing. He's been using benzoyl peroxide to minimize the damage but things have been ugly.

Question 1: He didn't notice any signs of acnes with increasing dosages. Is the acne estrogen related and would an anti-e help? (He has no signs of man boob issues at all) or is this related to the change in testosterone in the system.

Question 2: How does he manage this better next time round? He could use some practical suggestions.

[gsxr750]

That's a fairly big drop 1200 to 400 max concentration.. I would try tapering down to a 200mg shot over a few weeks next time? That kind of explains why after 3 weeks it's subsiding

I noticed the same, more sides at 125mg/week than I have now at 125mg TWICE a week.. much more stable blood levels..

[BAM]

apple cider vinegar capsules

Take two with a meal (twice a day).

[Big D]

do a search on here there was a thread talking about acne, I think it will help you out alot. :)

[tiramisu]

thanks.
apple cider vinegar sounds like a little bit of a stretch but Ill give is a shot.
tapering sounds smarter.
I will start searching.

thanks all.

[BAM]

thanks.
apple cider vinegar sounds like a little bit of a stretch but Ill give is a shot.
tapering sounds smarter.
I will start searching.

thanks all.

Well, its not gonna work over night, but I think you'll see an improvement a week or so later.

It helped fix mine, now I just take a couple of capsules a day when I notice it starting to flare up and that seems to keep it in check. For 6 bucks a bottle, its worth a shot.

[buffdaddy]

Apple cider vinigar will probably do piss all. Check with your doc, ask about Minocin, it's not as harsh on the live as accutane and it has worked well for alot of people.

[BAM]

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[BAM]

Apple cider vinigar will probably do piss all.

guessing?

[big_luse]

Im going to guess it had something to do with a temporary T/E ratio problem. Just because you arent prone to gyno doesnt mean your off the hook for all other side effects of ecessive estrogen.

[Kilburn]

i just came off around like a 26 week cycle was taking 500 test 300 tren EW and now nothing but 20mg nolva.

i'm breaking out like crazy. if it's really bad you might just wanna hit the accutane.

[tiramisu]

It would have to be a lot worse and stick around a lot longer than 3 weeks before I'd jump on the accutane bandwagon.

For the moment I'll try some of the first aid type solutions. Next time round I will likely try tapering off a cycle to see whether it reduce the acne reaction.

[St]

Apple cider vinigar will probably do piss all. Check with your doc, ask about Minocin, it's not as harsh on the live as accutane and it has worked well for alot of people.


Ya it will do jack shit(piss all),i worked at a health food store.
Get some Aveeno for oily skin it will help,but go see a doctor.When you change your dose to fast it will cause Acne.

[BAM]

Ya it will do jack shit(piss all),i worked at a health food store.


Well, ACV worked for me. I would say that it made my problem significantly better than it was.
(shrug)
Maybe it will work for him and its not toxic like accutane and costs nothing.

[powerrack]

Why not just throw in the ACV anyways, even it helps just a bit it's cheap as **** and does no harm.

Another thing to try for your body, if you get acne on your back,shoulders ,etc is frequent baths with epsom salt, it will help out with your skin big time.

If that doesn't work then you better get a script from the doc for something strong.

[Houstonbc]

minocycline is the less harsh stuff the doc prescribes for acne

[fathead]

some people think that i eat too many chocolate bars... or that i dont wash my face

[nisser]

It's all because of a hormone imbalance...it's why teens get acne during puberty. I have acne problems when I come off and I always deal with it before it becomes a problem around the time I start PCT. In winter I usually get on minocycline for 3 months (doc recommended dosage) and in summer I usually tan. Don't do both b/c mino makes you sensitive to sunlight.

There's also benzoyl peroxide bars you can get. Panoxyl-5 I think is OCT (5% peroxide) but I almost always get panoxyl-10 (which is prescription). I just leave this in the shower, lather it over my shoulders, let it sit for a minute then wash it off. It dries you out real well.

Edit: If you dont' have insurance..the stuff isn't htat expensive. ~150$ for mino for 3 months, and 2 panoxyl bars cost ~30$.

[Big D]

some people think that i eat too many chocolate bars... or that i dont wash my face

hahahahahah i almost forgot about that commercial :laugh

[natenator]

It's all because of a hormone imbalance...it's why teens get acne during puberty. I have acne problems when I come off and I always deal with it before it becomes a problem around the time I start PCT. In winter I usually get on minocycline for 3 months (doc recommended dosage) and in summer I usually tan. Don't do both b/c mino makes you sensitive to sunlight.

There's also benzoyl peroxide bars you can get. Panoxyl-5 I think is OCT (5% peroxide) but I almost always get panoxyl-10 (which is prescription). I just leave this in the shower, lather it over my shoulders, let it sit for a minute then wash it off. It dries you out real well.

Edit: If you dont' have insurance..the stuff isn't htat expensive. ~150$ for mino for 3 months, and 2 panoxyl bars cost ~30$.
thanks for the info!

here's a link to Amazon selling the 10% version...

http://www.amazon.com/PanOxyl-Bar-10%25-4-oz/dp/B0000Y3COC

[lambchops]

i had no acne for the first 5 weeks of test E, now in week 7? and i got acne on my delts, back and even a few on my forearm!

[NorthOf60]

IMO stay away from accutane. This shit should be banned. I had really bad acne growing up. Like Pizza face all over your body bad. Around 16 my doctor decided to put me on accutane. I wish I had know more about it. Sure it worked for my acne. But the long lasting side affects are not worth it. This shit ****s with you. I used to have oily skin, since accutane I have dry skin and hair (still more then 10 years later). Luckily my liver ended up OK. It ****s with your night vision. Also accutane ****ed with my serotonin and it never went back to normal afterwords. To this day I don't understand why that shit is legal and AS is illegal. I would gladly have really bad acne again then all of the side affects from accutane.

Proper care of you skin will work the best and lots of water. Stuff like Proactive works wonders, but only if you follow the regiment. There are lots of cheaper stuff out there just like Proactive. You need 1. An exfoliating cleanser with benzoyl peroxide 2. A toner 3. A lotion that contains benzoyl peroxide. If you are to use products like these twice a day (in the order numbered above) always on your face and acne prone places all the time you will have the best skin around. Safe and healthy to clean your skin.

A nice steam in the sauna every once in awhile will work wonders on your skin as well. It will also help detox your body has well.

[Descimus]

Wouldnt it have anything to do with your lvl of acidy in your blood from eating all the extra protein amino acid, extra stress from training, lactic acid that plus all the stuff we are exposed on daily basis...

[Crankin'steiN]

I wrote an article on acne that I will post in this section in a few mins... I've dealt with a lot of steroid related acne and did a lot of research so the article may help you out....