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[rufusrocks]

i'm planning my biggest cycle yet, i've done many but not this big.

i'm thinking of aromasin vs arimidex, adex made feel old.

my problem is every time i use dbol after 3 or 4 days of dbol i have to quit because i can't stand the bloat and to me it converts to estrogen worse than test.

i'd rather not post the cycle because of too many opinions about this or that is wrong. it's battling the estrogen conversion i used nolva when i was doing test and deca only but anytime i used dbol bamm i would get bad sides add adex and i felt 10 yrs older!!!!

we are all different.

okay basically i'm doing a small bulk switch to cut cycle. 20 wks just wanted to use DBOl for the first 3.

cheers(working on my avatar)

[Seth]

well, since aromasin is a suicidal inhibitor you won't have a surge in estrogen when you stop it. Plus its known to be easier on lipid profiles. I haven't done much research on adex though.

On another note, if you did the research and put your cycle together intelligently, you won't get flamed for posting it (unless you're 170 pounds and doing 5 different compounds)

[rufusrocks]

well, since aromasin is a suicidal inhibitor you won't have a surge in estrogen when you stop it. Plus its known to be easier on lipid profiles. I haven't done much research on adex though.

On another note, if you did the research and put your cycle together intelligently, you won't get flamed for posting it (unless you're 170 pounds and doing 5 different compounds)

i'm laughing bigtime, i,m 5 9' in my 40's and i research but sometimes i may not be the best lab rat. still LOL. uh and almost 200 pounds... ok

i'm not worried about getting flamed.

thanks appreciate your help. still LOL suicidal inhibithor i read that one time. my laughing was not to portray a derogatory response, i was already laughing. forgive me
if you thought that before i re-edited my reply.

seriously thanks

[waderow]

why wouldnt you post your cycle? makes no sense. but oh well..must be a silly one

if you dont like how arimidex makes you feel, try aromasin, or letrozole (femara)

nolvadex only blocks receptors wheras the aformentioned block estogen conversion.

[rufusrocks]

okay here it is.....


wk 1-3 100mg prop eod dbol 30mg-40 dbol ed(try it) 300mg test cyp( 200 mg deca
wk 4 300mg test cyp 300 mg test enth 600mg EQ 200mg deca
wk 5-14 600 mg test enth 600 mg EQ 200mg deca
wk 14-20 300 mg test(enth change to prop wk 17 100 eod) 600mg eq 40 mg anavar ed 50 mg winstrol eod. 100 mg deca (joints)

cheers

just to let you know i have used every compound in the cycle i mentioned but not EQ to the extent and never used winstrol, i never had gyno. used nolva, proviron, clen, ECA, albuterol, sustanon.. sorry if i'm blunt, i got laid off work so i'm a little abrasive plus my ex's father died...

[waderow]

yeah bro, there are some things you could/should change. if you don't want to hear it, so be it, but you could have a better cycle

[rufusrocks]

hey if i didn't want help i woudln't have posted. i apprreciate you reply. shoot away or rather state away!!!!

[tex]

your cholesterol is gonna be f'n garbage with var and winni........

[rufusrocks]

i eat well and take alot of EFA's fish oils, Co,Q10, garlic Oatmeal, to combat blood problems. before i got high BP and went on a CO Q10 binge for a year and wnr off BP medication.

winny concerns me. should i choose primo or masteron, i'm not competing.

i'll figure it out.

really appreciate your help. i got broad shoulders!!!!

[waderow]

k.i.s.s.

if you want to front load with prop, cool, but why mess around with enanthate and cyp. i would go one, or the other unless you already have it, but it makes little difference, so keep it simple.
Same with deca and eq. one, or the other. My choice would be EQ, but thats just me. Start in the beginning with your Eq (or deca) and carry it through to the end.
If youre going to run winny, take it every day.

[Drifter]

okay here it is.....


wk 1-3 100mg prop eod dbol 30mg-40 dbol ed(try it) 300mg test cyp( 200 mg deca
wk 4 300mg test cyp 300 mg test enth 600mg EQ 200mg deca
wk 5-14 600 mg test enth 600 mg EQ 200mg deca
wk 14-20 300 mg test(enth change to prop wk 17 100 eod) 600mg eq 40 mg anavar ed 50 mg winstrol eod. 100 mg deca (joints)

cheers
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Not to flame , but curiouse to why you would use Enth and cyp the same time in the same cycle ? they are pretty close to the same anyways . unless you have extras kicking around and just using it up ?
As for the D-bol , if it bugs you that much keep it as low as possible 20-30 mg ed. Obviously your body reacts to it good , so just keep your sodium low to keep the water / bloat down as much as possible .
I know I hate it when I do D-bol and my calves get so pumped just from walking I have to stop every few blocks just to let the pump drop a bit .
But good luck on it

[kloan]

I'm not gonna pick apart your cycle because I don't know enough about it to comment on, since I'm on my first cycle myself.

From what I've been able to gather regarding both arimidex and aromasin and how strongly each one affects the estrogen levels, I'd say with the amount of compounds you're planning on running, aromasin would probably be better suited.

However, I think it wasn't necessarily arimidex itself, but the lower estrogen that may have been what made you feel "old" so using aromasin might just as well cause similar effects... but that's just a guess, since I haven't used it personally.

This is the second time I've read that there's a rebound with arimidex after discontinuing use.. I'm not happy seeing that, since I was supposed to have aromasin on hand for PCT, but because of a screw up I ended up having two bottles of arimidex instead.

Personally, running arimidex .5mg eod I haven't noticed significant differences in my joints.

[rufusrocks]

thanks i just wanted to take deca because adex causes too much neuro-skeletal pain if aromasin is better i'll drop deca, i agree the less you have is better. the reason i'm using cyp then enth is i have both. to me if you keep constant blood levels it doesn't matter between the two as long as you introduce them together. i'm not a doctor but i did do well in chemistry and biology IN GRADE 13.


you guys are the best. i'm always careful. seen alot of horror stories here.

that's why i'm enquiring? hope everyone is enjoying the holidays, i'm sure the tryptophan from the turkey helped some insomniacs on TRen....


luv ya

[Diesel_250]

k.i.s.s.

if you want to front load with prop, cool, but why mess around with enanthate and cyp. i would go one, or the other unless you already have it, but it makes little difference, so keep it simple.
Same with deca and eq. one, or the other. My choice would be EQ, but thats just me. Start in the beginning with your Eq (or deca) and carry it through to the end.
If youre going to run winny, take it every day.

I absolutely agree. I am a fan of EQ, EQ and test is a winning combo IMHO.

[rufusrocks]

thanks everyone but you maybe i didn't tell you why i have to include small doages of deca. i need it for my skeletal system, it connects to joints to the tendons. if i don't include deca i'll get crippled if you remember my orginsl post i asked about aromasin vs adex as adex has made me ache all over. it might not be the adex but i never had problem before i took it. EQ and DECA absolutely EQ is what i pefer and hoping to get it's results, deca was only for the joints,

so my friends should i choose aromasin or adex, i think i have decided.

i love ya, thanksk for helping got some good friends that are real dedicated to the cause, i hope you don't mind in me saying a prayer during this holiday season.


thanks people for your support. i hope 2009 brings, maintains your goals, haven't slept in a few days,

you peeps are cool, let's keep it always.

thnaks

[waderow]

eq and deca are similar in collagen synthesis

me, eq makes me feel like a new man......joint wise

[Seth]

i'm laughing bigtime, i,m 5 9' in my 40's and i research but sometimes i may not be the best lab rat. still LOL. uh and almost 200 pounds... ok

i'm not worried about getting flamed.

thanks appreciate your help. still LOL suicidal inhibithor i read that one time. my laughing was not to portray a derogatory response, i was already laughing. forgive me
if you thought that before i re-edited my reply.

seriously thanks

I'm confused by your response, lol. Suicidal inhibitor means it will bind to the aromatase enzyme permanently. Adex will bind but temporarily, so when you stop it, you'll get a surge in aromatase enzyme which will result it a higher estrogen level

[kloan]

I'm confused by your response, lol. Suicidal inhibitor means it will bind to the aromatase enzyme permanently. Adex will bind but temporarily, so when you stop it, you'll get a surge in aromatase enzyme which will result it a higher estrogen level

Do you know if Nolva keeps that under control in PCT if someone is taking adex with a cycle?

[St]

If d-bol makes you feel like shit then go with T-bol.
I like Arimadex i feel better on it,but my fav is Proviron for the wood.

[BAM]

but my fav is Proviron for the wood.

Agreed..

[Seth]

Do you know if Nolva keeps that under control in PCT if someone is taking adex with a cycle?

I'm guessing yes, since Nolva doesn't rid of all estrogen, a surge in estro will happen anyways, but will not be as bad. That's just logic speaking, maybe I'm forgetting a factor. Perhaps someone has a more educated answer?

[rufusrocks]

i just wanted to take advantage of dbol and i thought aromasin may be better. i've used proviron before and i loved it and with nolva was great, just can't get the proviron right now. sometimes we get greedy maybe just wait and use what i know is good for me.

thanks, sorry if i pestered anyone.