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Rhinobolt10
25-12-2008, 11:03 AM
Hey guys, just a couple questions
I'm going to run a quick PCT after being on a long time, then jump back on the sauce. I'm just a little sick of feeling like a pin cushion, and want to raise my natty levels back up. The main reason is my gf has been letting me give her facials lately... and I want to raise my natty levels up and hopefully blow bigger loads.
I've got a 3 weeks supply of Nolva at 40mgs
I've got one full vial of HCG 5000mcg
and I've also got some letro I keep handy in case of gyno flare ups. DOn't really want to run it cause it hurts my joints like crazy.
My last test C shot was a week and a half ago, and my last tren a shot was on 1 week ago exactly.
My plan is to just run to nolva for 3 weeks straight, but I was wondering about the HCG.
Off the top of my head I was thinking 1000mcg's every 3.5 days until it's gone.... then it's back on cycle.
I'd like to hear what everyone else thinks though, thanks in advance.
Born2Juice4Ever
25-12-2008, 11:26 AM
HCG inhibits HPTA recovery while in the post cycle time frame.
5000ius is NOT very much.
HCG can be administrated up until 48 hours PRIOR to actual PCT protocol--such as the nolva, clomid and other recovering compounds.
Without having full cycle structure, which should include:
-length
-compounds used
-compound mgs weekly
Without the very basic info, I personally cannot advice on PCT length, and or usage of HCG. 500 to 750ius every 3-4 days is sufficient for it to do its job properly; assuming you run it for the appropriate time frame.
B2J
P.>S info on girlfriend not relevant to pct :D :D
champcar99
25-12-2008, 11:35 AM
" The main reason is my gf has been letting me give her facials lately... and I want to raise my natty levels up and hopefully blow bigger loads"
you got to love the ladies that allow you and WANT you to do that...:p
I like 2500ui every 5 days,just put 2ml in that vial,and the other 3 ml in that vial put it in the garage no need to put the full 5 ml in the vial, the shit burns like a mother.
After your final shot of hcg,start to take 40mg of nolva ed for 4 weeks.
Rhinobolt10
25-12-2008, 12:40 PM
I like 2500ui every 5 days,just put 2ml in that vial,and the other 3 ml in that vial put it in the garage no need to put the full 5 ml in the vial, the shit burns like a mother.
After your final shot of hcg,start to take 40mg of nolva ed for 4 weeks.
Sounds good man, thanks for the help
Sounds good man, thanks for the help
No problem anytime.
Rhinobolt10
12-01-2009, 02:57 PM
Just started my nolva, and so far pct is going really well... only dropped a pound or two of weight, and strength is still the same.
Actually just competed this weekend, and set a couple PR's...
Loads are definitely bigger too... which is quite a bit of fun, we hop in the sack everynight and we're both kinda excited to see how big it's going to be.
theboss
12-01-2009, 03:03 PM
Loads are definitely bigger too... which is quite a bit of fun, we hop in the sack everynight and we're both kinda excited to see how big it's going to be.
:laugh
Just started my nolva, and so far pct is going really well... only dropped a pound or two of weight, and strength is still the same.
Actually just competed this weekend, and set a couple PR's...
Loads are definitely bigger too... which is quite a bit of fun, we hop in the sack everynight and we're both kinda excited to see how big it's going to be.
haha.:laugh
Solo59
12-01-2009, 10:29 PM
All very nice, but you're probably still riding on the after-effects of your AAS. With that short of PCT and no time off-cycle, you are simply that – not off-cycle at all. You're taking a rest from needles & imagining your loads are increasing but soon you'll continue onto to your next cycle, but in reality it's all just one long cycle. You've never come off, just changed habits. I will say this: Use of HCG when Test is still in you, like 1000 iu EOD, will give you splatter loads like you've never had. So stand back & be prepared.
Solo
Rhinobolt10
13-01-2009, 03:37 PM
yeah, I guess almost 4 weeks isn't long enough for the sauce to get out of my system... I mean, figuring out how much test would be left would be really complex math... So, all very nice, but I think I'll stick with what I'm doing.
Thanks, it's nice to get the opinion of such an experienced guy with a really long posting history and credentials someone can trust.....
Solo59
13-01-2009, 07:04 PM
yeah, I guess almost 4 weeks isn't long enough for the sauce to get out of my system... I mean, figuring out how much test would be left would be really complex math... So, all very nice, but I think I'll stick with what I'm doing.
Thanks, it's nice to get the opinion of such an experienced guy with a really long posting history and credentials someone can trust.....
Glad you appreciate the creds, bruvvah:rolleyes:. Posted plenty as Solo48 on OutlawMuscle (http://www.outlawmuscle.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=16) and even more (1566) as Solo47 on Meso-Rx (http://forum.mesomorphosis.com/steroid-forum/).
In reality, you need at least 3 months to allow the AAS to clear your system.
Solo
Rhinobolt10
13-01-2009, 10:24 PM
lol... well your creds are better than mine as I have none....
In the past, most of the weight came off in the first few weeks for me, and strength generally didn't go down too too much... so, for me, things are going pretty well.
I'm also taking my diet a lot more seriously, I never realized how much of a crutch aas had become until I went off and saw my weight slip quite a bit, but I got serious, and it's holding steady.
I'm just trying to go off for a bit, recharge mentally, and maybe gain a few pounds if I can, go back on, and hopefully get another 10lbs by April.
Things are feeling good though, where in the past I've felt pretty rough at this point, so somethings going good...
Solo59
14-01-2009, 03:39 PM
I've found IGF or hGH to be the only non-AAS supplements that help retain gains off-cycle; however, they don't give that incomparable fire in the belly – the drive – that androgenic gear does. As far as gear goes, EQ seems to have the most lasting power post-cycle, but even that fades with time. Hopefully by then it's time to get back in the saddle.
Solo
Rhinobolt10
18-01-2009, 02:43 PM
You know, about the eq, I've noticed that too... Whenever I run EQ, I've noticed I hold onto those gains very well... something I'm going to think about.
Zeron
20-01-2009, 09:00 AM
HCG inhibits HPTA recovery while in the post cycle time frame.
5000ius is NOT very much.
HCG can be administrated up until 48 hours PRIOR to actual PCT protocol--such as the nolva, clomid and other recovering compounds.
Without having full cycle structure, which should include:
-length
-compounds used
-compound mgs weekly
Without the very basic info, I personally cannot advice on PCT length, and or usage of HCG. 500 to 750ius every 3-4 days is sufficient for it to do its job properly; assuming you run it for the appropriate time frame.
B2J
P.>S info on girlfriend not relevant to pct :D :D
I agree with you bro, more than enough, x- time try & run 500ui E.W from get go, 3week's after final pin!
Rhinobolt10
20-01-2009, 01:08 PM
Well, considering my PCT is going great just on what I've done... I haven't lost a pound in over a month off cycle, haven't lost strength, even set a couple PR's, and my nuts are bigger... I think I can safely skip HCG for my next cycle.
Well, considering my PCT is going great just on what I've done... I haven't lost a pound in over a month off cycle, haven't lost strength, even set a couple PR's, and my nuts are bigger... I think I can safely skip HCG for my next cycle.
Don't skip your HCG you will lose mayor strenght,get the blues,maybe even cry when you watch chick flicks.But the only way you will know is just try your next cycle and not take hcg and you will see that i'm right.
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