Its been a long time coming!!

[varking]

Alright its been a year or so and I`m ready to hit another cycle. Thinking of starting in march. I have alittle problem with hair lose thats my only side effect I get.
Here are my stats
6`2
227lbs
age 21
Have done 3 cycles befor
1) test e 500mg per week for 10 weeks
2) test e 500mg per week for 10 weeks kick started with dbol 40mg per day for 4 weeks.
3) test e 250mg per week with 600mg per week of eq for 20 weeks with var at 60mg for the last 8 weeks at 60mg per day

Looking to add size want to get ready to step on stage with in the next year I`m pretty lean already around 8-10 percent bodyfat.

Could you guys throw some ideas out I know some of you guys dont like these post but help a bro out haha

Thanks alot Varking

[#8]

test / deca / var

frontload tbol

[gustavo77]

Test, deca, d-bol or drol.

[Blitz-Test]

1-16 Testosterone 600mg/week
1-14 Deca 400mg/week
1-6 Dianabol 40mg/ed
1-18 hCG 500IU/week

or

1-8 Testosterone 500mg/week
1-8 Trenbolone 300mg/week
1-6 Dianabol 40mg/ed
1-8 hcg 500IU/week

[Crankin'steiN]

How much of a hairloss prob do you have and is that a major factor in what you choose for a cycle?? If not then go with the good ol dbol / test / deca stack... 40mg/day, 500mg/week, and 400mg/week.. Great simple stack that will help add mass but it won't be very good for your hair... lol

Look into some propecia for your hair and maybe nizoral bro

[varking]

Umm hair is a factor thats forsure. I had a Prescription for finastride did **** all. Almots felt like I lost more hair on it then when I didnt use it.

[St]

I would kick start with T-bol...D-bol is all water,bad enough some people hold lots of water with test.

[Crankin'steiN]

Umm hair is a factor thats forsure. I had a Prescription for finastride did **** all. Almots felt like I lost more hair on it then when I didnt use it.

Finasteride is usually pretty good so thats weird... It's not easy working around the hair loss issue... I have a buddy in the same boat and I put him on low dose test (250/week), var and primo. Expensive but minimal hair loss.... And gains are slower but quality... You could also consider low dose test with EQ and Var....

[Houstonbc]

test - 600mg/wk 1-16
eq - 500mg/wk wk1-16
tbol - 40mg/day wk 1-6

should get some nice gains from that

[Descimus]

I heard primo was very harsh for hair anyone else?

[Crankin'steiN]

I heard primo was very harsh for hair anyone else?

Hairloss is a side effect of androgenic drugs and primo is not very androgenic at all and has very few and very mild associated sides....

However I have heard that primo is often faked by labelling test prop (or other steroids) as primo etc and thus would be a good reason that people have used primo and lost their hair... That or they stacked primo with something else they thought wouldn't be hard on their hairline and blamed the primo....

[icey_boi]

I would kick start with T-bol...D-bol is all water,bad enough some people hold lots of water with test.

you realy think the gains you get frum d-bol is all water bro?

[Durk]

I do

[xxSCHiSMxx]

Yeah, lots of water weight w/ Dbol. In my case, drop Dbol from stack, lose 5 - 10 lbs in a wk. I still love the stuff. I like the quick weight gain/strength gains.

Will be trying Tbol near future. Looking forward to it.

[kyle]

Keep is simple

Test 600mg per week
Deca 400mg per week

Or use 25mg per day of tren for 10 weeks instead of deca

[Drifter]

Ya definitly add the Deca instead of the EQ for more size .

The ole bread n butter stack
40 mg D-bol ed 4-6 weeks
500 mg test e 16 weeks
400 mg Deca 14 weeks starting the same time as test and d-bol

do basic movements and keep it simple

then do a test and primo cycle when your ready for the cycle after that , you should be large and in charge by then bro

[Old-Dog]

Myself,

I am running;

1-12- Test Cyp 750mg per week
1-12 EQ 600mg per week
1-6 100mg per day anavar
6-12 40mg per day TBOL(Which is unreal)
4iu per day GH(2iu in morning 2iu at night) But your 21. 5 on 2 off.
0.5 arim per day. 5 on 2 off.

I am also using prop weeks 8-12 at 300 mg per week for extra hardness.

5000-7000 cal per day. 20 min per day treadmill. Of course use all the proper vitamins and sport supplements. Plenty of rest and no stress.

The EQ increases your overall ability to breakdown nutrients and utilize all the proper nitrogen necessary to increase hardness and size. Plus it makes you hungry as ****!@ Thank god for Red Blood Cells.

Good luck Bros

[Crankin'steiN]

HIS HAIR PEOPLE.... HE IS WORRIED ABOUT HIS HAIR.... LMAO

Bro... I think a lot of people didn't fully read your post or didn't consider your hairline when giving you cycle advice... I'm not trying to knock anyone, I just know that a lot of the cycles and drugs suggested will have you buying stocks in Rogain real quick....

[varking]

Ya i was going to say deca isnt that great on hair i`m going to look into a primo and eq with test cycle with tbol to kick start it off

[Old-Dog]

Oh I see. Primo bad bad for hair. High DHT.

EQ is very safe. EQ stacked with anavar and just 300mg per week prop should be safe.

[Crankin'steiN]

I've read conflicting information about the hair thing with primo.... It's a DHT derivative yet its not very androgenic and is very mild for androgenic sides.... DHT isn't the only culprit of hairloss tho I know that... Still because I can't find an absolute answer for the primo thing I am going to say maybe you should avoid it if worried about your hair just to be safe. I suggested it with information that I believed true but have done a bit mroe research and found conflicting info now and don't want to suggest something unless I am 100% sure of it....

[Drifter]

Shave it off or wear a wig / hair piece :laugh

Girls like bald muscular men ( this is where the girls need to confirm this)

[varking]

ahah ya maybe its time to face the fact eh ahah hair piece sounds pretty good i bet the girls will love it ahah

[Old-Dog]

One final truth of hair loss...Steroids don't cause baldness, they only accelerate the root of whichever hair issue you posses.

Such as dry scalp, thining hair, dry britle hair, receeding hair line, ect

I know a tonne of fellas who juice and more than 75% have all their hair and those who don't were on route to being bald anyhew...

Shaving your head isn't a bad idea, you won't get all worked up for 10 weeks watching your hair fall out.

[varking]

Ok I think I`m going to say **** it and shave it then run test e or c with some deca or eq not sure if i want the deca dick ahah and primo with tbol to kick start that shit off

[Crankin'steiN]

go with the eq bro... no need to make things worse... the test is already gonna mess with yoru hair... Who knows... Maybe you will still have enough left at the end of the cycle to grow it back and have a decent comb over.... HAHAHA

[Descimus]

ok thank guy now you got me worried for mine :P

[St]

Oh I see. Primo bad bad for hair. High DHT.

EQ is very safe. EQ stacked with anavar and just 300mg per week prop should be safe.



Yep Primo is high DHT.

[Seth]

How much hair loss did you get in your 3rd cycle?

[varking]

not that much really. Just a little thin on the top