View Full Version : Was it worth it?
Kilburn
23-12-2008, 04:37 AM
so now that you're huge, is it as tasty as you thought it was going to be?
was it worth all the dieting, training, steroid injections, pills, supplements? etc etc etc??? Do you now get women, respect from others or whatever it was that you were looking for now that you're big?
all i notice is that people are more intimidated by me and some girls seem to really like it whereas others seem to be totally turned off by it. what i wanted to get out of this was to feel fulfilled but i dont.
i'm feeling really depressed right now. i think i'm going to come off for a long time and try to get back to being normal for awhile. by normal, i mean normal mentally, obviously i will try to maintain as much as i can.
All i got was your on Steriods right.What do you take or how much can you bench.
Proteinkiller
23-12-2008, 09:48 AM
wouldn't change my decision ever...****ing love this shit and this lifestyle
trainharder
23-12-2008, 10:27 AM
I think the key is to do it for the right reasons to begin with. I'm doing it for myself because I always want to look better in the mirror and want to excel in everything I do, but I'm very aware that this is only a part of my life, and doesn't define me as a person.
MuSuLPhReAk
23-12-2008, 10:32 AM
Yes. But you have to keep your life balanced. I found that to be the hardest part. It is always good to come off for awhile to feel mentally normal again.
beserker
23-12-2008, 10:37 AM
Hell yeah its worth it ! i love walking around jacked too the nines , the only time its not worth it i.m.o. is when one is off and then the mood swings happen . For me my rational decision making capabilities diminish slightly and i explode at random nothings , keep in mind this when im OFF.....thats the only time its not worth it.
I think dipping my fingers into steroids was a great idea, the results are fantastic. Working out just used to be part of a weekly routine to keep fit, look a little bigger and now it has turned into a great hobby. Bodybuilding... and I love it.
Rhinobolt10
23-12-2008, 10:46 AM
sorry, I thought this was a rhetorical question...
yes it's worth it
icey_boi
23-12-2008, 10:52 AM
it was and IS worth it. if it wasnt none of us would do it. i prolly could have waited a while longer before before using. but thats bout it.
only thing i regret is the stretch marks
Roid-Monkey
23-12-2008, 11:10 AM
only thing i regret is the stretch marks
i look at them as trophees
^ goddammit, whenever I see that word I have to double check to make sure I don't have any. I'll also be paranoiac for the next 5 days. THANKS!
icey_boi
23-12-2008, 11:16 AM
^ LOL
sweet sweet strech marks!
so glad i dont have any..... yet!
purelife
23-12-2008, 01:49 PM
if u have no stech marks that means ur doing something wrong :ne
^ LOL
sweet sweet strech marks!
so glad i dont have any..... yet!
RagingRandy
23-12-2008, 01:57 PM
so now that you're huge, is it as tasty as you thought it was going to be?
was it worth all the dieting, training, steroid injections, pills, supplements? etc etc etc??? Do you now get women, respect from others or whatever it was that you were looking for now that you're big?
all i notice is that people are more intimidated by me and some girls seem to really like it whereas others seem to be totally turned off by it. what i wanted to get out of this was to feel fulfilled but i dont.
i'm feeling really depressed right now. i think i'm going to come off for a long time and try to get back to being normal for awhile. by normal, i mean normal mentally, obviously i will try to maintain as much as i can.
I am wondering if your hormones are all messed up. Maybe this is what is causing your anxiety. Are you on anything now? I can tell you from experience that low test can really mess you up. I am on HRT now. I can not believe the difference in mood and lowered anxiety level.
I know it is going to sound corny but it has been said that contentment does not come from getting what you want but wanting what you have. Hope you feel better soon. Keep life balanced.
rufusrocks
23-12-2008, 02:07 PM
that's a personal matter. if something is making you unhappy you should change it. maybe you need some time off. quality of life always seems to have some kind of price. everyone gets doubts. good luck with your decisions.
I know it is going to sound corny but it has been said that contentment does not come from getting what you want but wanting what you have.
That quote just enlightened my day man.
thanks
NorthOf60
23-12-2008, 02:46 PM
i look at them as trophees
Couldn't of said it better.
Mr Ontario
23-12-2008, 03:29 PM
Depends where you are in life!
Van Zan
23-12-2008, 03:34 PM
so now that you're huge, is it as tasty as you thought it was going to be?
was it worth all the dieting, training, steroid injections, pills, supplements? etc etc etc??? Do you now get women, respect from others or whatever it was that you were looking for now that you're big?
all i notice is that people are more intimidated by me and some girls seem to really like it whereas others seem to be totally turned off by it. what i wanted to get out of this was to feel fulfilled but i dont.
i'm feeling really depressed right now. i think i'm going to come off for a long time and try to get back to being normal for awhile. by normal, i mean normal mentally, obviously i will try to maintain as much as i can.
Maybe, beside bodybuilding, you are unhappy with what you accomplished so fare in other aspect of your life ?
icey_boi
23-12-2008, 03:39 PM
if u have no stech marks that means ur doing something wrong :ne
i may have embelished it a bit... i DO have one lil line coming up from my arm pits but im not totaly convinced its a "strech mark" i keep telling myself thats its not a strech mark but rather a crease or something lol
Kilburn
23-12-2008, 03:53 PM
iwent through a bunch of SA stuff then jumped onto *****. i think ive gone through about 3 bottles of TNT now. i'm not sure exactly how long ive been on, but it's been awhile.
people keep telling me i have a crazy look in my eye. and looking in the mirror i do somewhat, the lack of sleep isn't helping.
i blew up at and broke up with my girlfriend over basically nothing the other day. she said i was paranoid. not feeling too great right now about the whole thing, i'm going to come off completely till i think about march.
Houstonbc
23-12-2008, 04:02 PM
I would concentrate on getting a normal sleep tren will **** your sleeping right over which makes me over tired and a bit of a mess
waderow
23-12-2008, 04:07 PM
tren is not a good drug for emotional stability.
this is an excellent thread. not too long ago i found a bunch of my old workout programs so i looked them over. i had relatively modest goals for myself that i wrote down on paper to make them more real in hopes of achieving them. i have not only achieved them but exceeded them by quite a bit. it makes me wonder when is enough enough? when will i be satisfied with my fitness / strength levels? i feel as if i have become addicted to gains in a negative way also, and it does stress out other aspects of my life that i should be concentrating on more. its hard to get studying done or get in a good mental space to prepare for a hockey game when you're worrying about caloric intake for that day and if you have enough ground beef and pistachios to get you through the next few days. take a step back and examine yourself and if you dont like what you see, make some changes. not many girls condone, let alone endorse steroid use for their bf's or loved ones. most girls are not attracted to the types of bodies we are so addicted to achieving. i think most mature women are more attracted to a motivated guy who treats them with respect and takes care of himself. this doesnt mean he is well over 200 lbs and lean. do some soul searching and ask yourself if this is what you need in your life. try to remember why you started training and how much fun it was in the beginning, even when you were "skinny". good luck bro.
RagingRandy
23-12-2008, 05:55 PM
iwent through a bunch of SA stuff then jumped onto *****. i think ive gone through about 3 bottles of TNT now. i'm not sure exactly how long ive been on, but it's been awhile.
people keep telling me i have a crazy look in my eye. and looking in the mirror i do somewhat, the lack of sleep isn't helping.
i blew up at and broke up with my girlfriend over basically nothing the other day. she said i was paranoid. not feeling too great right now about the whole thing, i'm going to come off completely till i think about march.
Tren for sure will mess you up. That is why I have never used it, as I am anxiety prone. Drop everything except for a HRT dose of test, about 250mg\week. This will keep your test up while everything else clears your system and then run a PCT or simply stay on 250mg of test. The elevated test should help with mood and sleep.
Flex15
23-12-2008, 08:35 PM
it was for surely worth it for me....bodybuilding is a amazing expereince and the body is a incredible machine its a lifestyle that doesnt suit all people
purelife
23-12-2008, 09:00 PM
100% worth it
it has its ups and downs but its worth it
NorthOf60
23-12-2008, 09:15 PM
I wouldn't stop cold turkey if you are having depression issues because you hormones will go WTF and you might get even worse for a bit. Maybe taper off and talk to your doc to get some anti-depressants for a bit, they can also prescribe some sleeping pills for you so that you can get some sleep. Just my 2 cents. Talking to a shrink might help as well, there might something that is bothering that you are not aware of and might not have anything to do with the juice.
canadiancat
23-12-2008, 09:42 PM
im not huge. but i really enjoy making progress. looking in the mirror in the morning and seeing improvements is a great way to start my day. its a lot of fun, and sure its hard work at times, but man i feel great about putting in the effort every day and having it pay off over time. having a body i can be proud of and worked hard for is important to me. Having goals that im constantly working to achieve is pretty sweet as well. its an awesome feeling to say something like "hey i achieved my 4 week goal", or "hey i just reached a long term goal of benching X weight".
gordi
24-12-2008, 04:11 PM
Tren for sure will mess you up. That is why I have never used it, as I am anxiety prone. Drop everything except for a HRT dose of test, about 250mg\week. This will keep your test up while everything else clears your system and then run a PCT or simply stay on 250mg of test. The elevated test should help with mood and sleep.
Yeah, for sure. Bodybuilding should add quality to almost every aspect of your life and unless you're making your living at it (or maybe preparing for a show in the near future) I can't see any reason to keep doing things that are making you miserable just to add muscle and lose fat as quickly as possible.
It is absolutely true that "...contentment does not come from getting what you want but wanting what you have." I've learned (and re-learned) that lesson many times in my life and I think it just might be the key to happiness. It doesn't mean that you don't set goals and work for them... but achieving the goals isn't the only reward in life. It's vitally important to enjoy the journey. By the time you're my age, you'll have learned that the journey is all we have. There is no destination that, when you get there, the journey is over.
I'm never going to be a competitive bodybuilder, powerlifter, or strongman... but I love being big and strong and healthy. i wouldn't trade it for anything. I let myself go for a couple of years and ended up on the doorstep of diabetes and heart disease... now I'm back training and eating right and life is great again.
If the gear you're on now is screwing up your life, cut down. Hell, I'm on 100 mg/Q5D and I'm still gaining muscle and strength and losing fat... slowly but surely. I'm always horny, I've got tons of energy, and I'm loving my life. Cut down... even to 100 mg/week of test just to keep your levels up... get your hormones in order, get your life in order, keep training and eating right... your muscles won't disappear and your life will improve.
Talk to your doc if you've got a good one. Get your blood tested and see what's out of whack.
Good luck, bro!
Crankin'steiN
24-12-2008, 04:28 PM
Yeah, for sure. Bodybuilding should add quality to almost every aspect of your life and unless you're making your living at it (or maybe preparing for a show in the near future) I can't see any reason to keep doing things that are making you miserable just to add muscle and lose fat as quickly as possible.
It is absolutely true that "...contentment does not come from getting what you want but wanting what you have." I've learned (and re-learned) that lesson many times in my life and I think it just might be the key to happiness. It doesn't mean that you don't set goals and work for them... but achieving the goals isn't the only reward in life. It's vitally important to enjoy the journey. By the time you're my age, you'll have learned that the journey is all we have. There is no destination that, when you get there, the journey is over.
I'm never going to be a competitive bodybuilder, powerlifter, or strongman... but I love being big and strong and healthy. i wouldn't trade it for anything. I let myself go for a couple of years and ended up on the doorstep of diabetes and heart disease... now I'm back training and eating right and life is great again.
If the gear you're on now is screwing up your life, cut down. Hell, I'm on 100 mg/Q5D and I'm still gaining muscle and strength and losing fat... slowly but surely. I'm always horny, I've got tons of energy, and I'm loving my life. Cut down... even to 100 mg/week of test just to keep your levels up... get your hormones in order, get your life in order, keep training and eating right... your muscles won't disappear and your life will improve.
Talk to your doc if you've got a good one. Get your blood tested and see what's out of whack.
Good luck, bro!
GREAT POST BRO!
And I couldn't agree more! I have been around the block and back even tho I am still young I've been through a lot and I'm on my second time around with bodybuilding.... I was out of the gym and down a bad road for a couple years and found my way back to bodybuilding and have straightened my shit out again... For me it is much more then just a sport or passion, it holds me down and gives me stability... It has been my saviour... well that and my daughter!
So YES it was and IS worth it!
giannos
24-12-2008, 05:21 PM
Killburn, Bro... It's the Tren man..Shit is hard on the emotions, and you cant run it forever... Drop it and as mentioned above just do some test for a few weeks then I would do a proper PCT.. Also it worries me that you don't know how long you have been on ????? You should always start with a plan and never deviate from it. You should know EXACTLY when you should start PCT...
Drifter
24-12-2008, 09:23 PM
GREAT POST BRO!
And I couldn't agree more! I have been around the block and back even tho I am still young I've been through a lot and I'm on my second time around with bodybuilding.... I was out of the gym and down a bad road for a couple years and found my way back to bodybuilding and have straightened my shit out again... For me it is much more then just a sport or passion, it holds me down and gives me stability... It has been my saviour... well that and my daughter!
So YES it was and IS worth it!
I'm i the same boat . 2nd time round for me also and YES its worth it
Killburn, Bro... It's the Tren man..Shit is hard on the emotions, and you cant run it forever... Drop it and as mentioned above just do some test for a few weeks then I would do a proper PCT.. Also it worries me that you don't know how long you have been on ????? You should always start with a plan and never deviate from it. You should know EXACTLY when you should start PCT...
Ya long tren cycles are good for the muscles ext , but tren is hard on you . it looks like its time to take a break to level out a little
Kilburn
24-12-2008, 09:57 PM
i patched things up with the girlfriend and feeling better but ya, i'm still coming off for atleast a few months.
tren e is great, i dont think ive ever been this strong before, made some solid gains and i could pig out on pizza all day long and still not again a pound. but like everyone has already said, not too good for you mentally and i was taking some strong abombs , 50mg a day, what a combo. i'm almost thinking now it was more the anadrol that was doing it. scary shit.
in any event this is going to be good for me. it will be interesting to see what i look like and what i can actually maintain naturally. i failed to realize the fact that i cant stay on this shit forever, even if i would like to. all i will be taking is protien, creatine, multi, fish oil, etc, just some basic stuff.
i have three and a bit bottles of TNT left so i guess when i do start my next cycle it'll be more tren, lol, but after that stuff is finished i think i will just stick to test and deca or something like that.
how should i use up the tnt. i was doing 2ccs a week, so 500 test, 300 tren. maybe i'll bump it up to like 4ccs for a quick burst cycle when i go back on in march. 1000test 600tren could be fuking scary tho lol.
anyway, thanks everyone for the support.
rufusrocks
24-12-2008, 11:33 PM
it ain't the outside what counts, just the fact you mentioned your GF first shows you got heart. follow it. in the end man only you can decide. glad you you are more optimistic, just trust your instincts ain't nothing wrong with wanting to be the best you can be. inside and out....
all the best....
lambchops
25-12-2008, 12:17 AM
im 5 weeks into my first cycle and i couldn't be happier with my choice.
shithead
25-12-2008, 02:13 AM
i patched things up with the girlfriend and feeling better but ya, i'm still coming off for atleast a few months.
tren e is great, i dont think ive ever been this strong before, made some solid gains and i could pig out on pizza all day long and still not again a pound. but like everyone has already said, not too good for you mentally and i was taking some strong abombs , 50mg a day, what a combo. i'm almost thinking now it was more the anadrol that was doing it. scary shit.
in any event this is going to be good for me. it will be interesting to see what i look like and what i can actually maintain naturally. i failed to realize the fact that i cant stay on this shit forever, even if i would like to. all i will be taking is protien, creatine, multi, fish oil, etc, just some basic stuff.
i have three and a bit bottles of TNT left so i guess when i do start my next cycle it'll be more tren, lol, but after that stuff is finished i think i will just stick to test and deca or something like that.
how should i use up the tnt. i was doing 2ccs a week, so 500 test, 300 tren. maybe i'll bump it up to like 4ccs for a quick burst cycle when i go back on in march. 1000test 600tren could be fuking scary tho lol.
anyway, thanks everyone for the support.
If you think you're crazy now, just wait 'til ya hit 1000/600 in March.
I'm thinking tren should be something that you should stay away from. I got all ****ed up on 200mg tren e e3d. Paranoia, delusional thinking, the whole thing. Plus it shuts you down HARD(most ppl anyway) make sure to follow a good pct protocol.
There are many well informed members that can help you with this, if need be.
shithead
25-12-2008, 02:14 AM
im 5 weeks into my first cycle and i couldn't be happier with my choice.
Honeymoon period.
lambchops
25-12-2008, 02:53 AM
Honeymoon period.
maybe, ill give a more detailed opinion after im done and have gone through pct ;)
rated_rko
25-12-2008, 09:45 AM
no regrets
Descimus
25-12-2008, 01:03 PM
iwent through a bunch of SA stuff then jumped onto *****. i think ive gone through about 3 bottles of TNT now. i'm not sure exactly how long ive been on, but it's been awhile.
people keep telling me i have a crazy look in my eye. and looking in the mirror i do somewhat, the lack of sleep isn't helping.
i blew up at and broke up with my girlfriend over basically nothing the other day. she said i was paranoid. not feeling too great right now about the whole thing, i'm going to come off completely till i think about march.
bro i know how to feel i promised my wife i would never touch tren anymore, it was really playing with my head.. On it i dont feel pity no good emotion no empathy at all, i get angry for nothing and instead of getting my cool back my head keep fueling the anger, normaly i am all the contrary. Get some sleep bro alot of it and fix all the shit one at a time, small thing one at a time good luck bro.
Stonewald Rockwater
26-12-2008, 01:23 AM
kilburn needs to stop for about six months before even thinking about running again
take a break but do your pct right reevaluate in the fall
Im on a long break from the gear, Im young and I was using massive doses non stop...its taken a toll on my heart, hopefully it will go back to normal after being off for a while
but I can say for sure its do to the doses I used, Im not even gonna say what I would inject per week, but its alot more than a 10ml bottle
Im about 3 months off, from at least a 3 years on...weak as hell, no energy for anything, zero sex drive...but thats all to be expected
Im on a long break from the gear, Im young and I was using massive doses non stop...its taken a toll on my heart, hopefully it will go back to normal after being off for a while
but I can say for sure its do to the doses I used, Im not even gonna say what I would inject per week, but its alot more than a 10ml bottle
Im about 3 months off, from at least a 3 years on...weak as hell, no energy for anything, zero sex drive...but thats all to be expected
Did you take any PCT?
Oh ya I did alot of PCT...used HG clomid first, 12.5mg of aromasin a day for 3 weeks...then took 3 off and did 2.5 weeks on Toremifiene citrate
i'll get blood work done in a week or so to see how Im comin along
Oh ya I did alot of PCT...used HG clomid first, 12.5mg of aromasin a day for 3 weeks...then took 3 off and did 2.5 weeks on Toremifiene citrate
i'll get blood work done in a week or so to see how Im comin along
That was a good thing.Looks like you might need some hcg&Proviron for your mojo after,but the main thing is you feel better.
varking
29-12-2008, 12:38 PM
d-s you crazy shit glad your doing good keep up the good work
That was a good thing.Looks like you might need some hcg&Proviron for your mojo after,but the main thing is you feel better.
How would I go about using proviron and HCG to benefit me while im recovering my natural test production
Kilburn
29-12-2008, 10:49 PM
do you think cruising on 10mg of var ED for awhile is a good idea or no?
Descimus
30-12-2008, 12:09 AM
i heard it gonna make your lipid profile look bad running var only, now 10 mg a day is not much so i dunno.. If you really dont want to stop run gh at 2-ui a day 5 day a week and slin if you are familiar with it stop all the rest until you fully recover then see what are the option for you.
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