UkrainianGuy
21-12-2008, 12:21 PM
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...hp?t=112712841
Originally Posted by SPACECLOWN
FYI Iovate/Muscletech/Multi Formulations etc. is currently using a smoke screen lawsuits claiming patent infringement on the following companies.
1. Black China Labs - Case Number 1:2008cv00808
2. Millennium Sport Technologies - Case Number 1:2008cv00809
3. Nimbus Nutrition - 1:2008cv00854
4. USP Labs - 1:2008cv00852
5. Beast Nutrition - 1:2008cv00890
6. IForce Nutrition - 1:2008cv00894
Possibly more since 10/31/08
http://dockets.justia.com/browse/sta...dce/noscat-10/
Iovate is not only going after the owners of companies but reps for the named companies even when the reps are not actual employees. It is apparent Iovate is tired of people talking negatively about their products, marketing tactics and forum behavior right here on bb.com. They have sent summons out and are trying to strong arm anyone that critiques their products in a not so positive light. This behavior put Iovate on the same class as Syntrax for myself. If you also notice Iovate whom is a very large corporation has singled out the somewhat smaller companies out there to flex their legal muscle. I find it outlandish that Iovate's legal team feals they have the ability to sue non-employee's for patent infringement. So Iovate why would you create frivolous lawsuits? Do you or your legal team understand the penalties that can become when this is proven in a court of law? It would be wise for you to drop all cases, give us a public apology and pay for all legal fee's associated with the cases.
The wording in your legal documents are interesting but keep in mind saying we are representatives is because we are following rules of bb.com
Quote:
Companies and company representatives must list their affiliation in their signatures. Affiliation includes but is not limited to Company name, home page url, and email addresses. Other identifying information such as
screen names, telephone numbers, and customer service lines are optional. Company representatives who do not list their affiliation in their signature are subject to banning and possible loss of posting privileges for the ENTIRE
company in question.
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=1404341
This does not make us employees. W-2 holders or receive monetary compensation for what we do. Many of us represent companies because we believe in the products and what the company stands for. So in summary Iovate is punishing the companies we represent to defend posts we make here that Iovate approves of. This costs small companies substantial
money. Ex. Local counsel wherever the supp company is, the New York counsel, the patent counsel etc. Even if they drop the case it costs these supp companies thousands.
Can you answer below?
Quote:
Originally Posted by admin
7. I would do what is best for the COMMUNITY and to help it grow and prosper - Is your life goal to make money at the expense of others? Is the world a better place because you were born... or worse? Are you making your mother and father proud? Would you like all of your forum actions to be printed in your local newspaper for everybody you know to see? Or would you be embarrassed?
Can't defend your products except by taking people to court?
Quote:
Originally Posted by moderator
7. No company, rep, or product is above criticism on this board. Every company?s presence on this board is a privilege and not a right. This privilege can be taken away. It is up to the company in question to defend their product against attack including questioning, bashing, poor reviews, call-outs etc. DO NOT PM ME OR ANY OTHER MODERATOR just because someone is talking badly about your product. It is YOUR job to defend your products. Moderators will enforce the rules of the board of course.
U Mad because of this?
If you are pissed at me then come after me. Oh wait you have no case against a civilian that does not like your products, marketing or forum behavior.
The smokescreen is obvious if one sees whom is called in each summons and previous post history.
Originally Posted by SPACECLOWN
FYI Iovate/Muscletech/Multi Formulations etc. is currently using a smoke screen lawsuits claiming patent infringement on the following companies.
1. Black China Labs - Case Number 1:2008cv00808
2. Millennium Sport Technologies - Case Number 1:2008cv00809
3. Nimbus Nutrition - 1:2008cv00854
4. USP Labs - 1:2008cv00852
5. Beast Nutrition - 1:2008cv00890
6. IForce Nutrition - 1:2008cv00894
Possibly more since 10/31/08
http://dockets.justia.com/browse/sta...dce/noscat-10/
Iovate is not only going after the owners of companies but reps for the named companies even when the reps are not actual employees. It is apparent Iovate is tired of people talking negatively about their products, marketing tactics and forum behavior right here on bb.com. They have sent summons out and are trying to strong arm anyone that critiques their products in a not so positive light. This behavior put Iovate on the same class as Syntrax for myself. If you also notice Iovate whom is a very large corporation has singled out the somewhat smaller companies out there to flex their legal muscle. I find it outlandish that Iovate's legal team feals they have the ability to sue non-employee's for patent infringement. So Iovate why would you create frivolous lawsuits? Do you or your legal team understand the penalties that can become when this is proven in a court of law? It would be wise for you to drop all cases, give us a public apology and pay for all legal fee's associated with the cases.
The wording in your legal documents are interesting but keep in mind saying we are representatives is because we are following rules of bb.com
Quote:
Companies and company representatives must list their affiliation in their signatures. Affiliation includes but is not limited to Company name, home page url, and email addresses. Other identifying information such as
screen names, telephone numbers, and customer service lines are optional. Company representatives who do not list their affiliation in their signature are subject to banning and possible loss of posting privileges for the ENTIRE
company in question.
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=1404341
This does not make us employees. W-2 holders or receive monetary compensation for what we do. Many of us represent companies because we believe in the products and what the company stands for. So in summary Iovate is punishing the companies we represent to defend posts we make here that Iovate approves of. This costs small companies substantial
money. Ex. Local counsel wherever the supp company is, the New York counsel, the patent counsel etc. Even if they drop the case it costs these supp companies thousands.
Can you answer below?
Quote:
Originally Posted by admin
7. I would do what is best for the COMMUNITY and to help it grow and prosper - Is your life goal to make money at the expense of others? Is the world a better place because you were born... or worse? Are you making your mother and father proud? Would you like all of your forum actions to be printed in your local newspaper for everybody you know to see? Or would you be embarrassed?
Can't defend your products except by taking people to court?
Quote:
Originally Posted by moderator
7. No company, rep, or product is above criticism on this board. Every company?s presence on this board is a privilege and not a right. This privilege can be taken away. It is up to the company in question to defend their product against attack including questioning, bashing, poor reviews, call-outs etc. DO NOT PM ME OR ANY OTHER MODERATOR just because someone is talking badly about your product. It is YOUR job to defend your products. Moderators will enforce the rules of the board of course.
U Mad because of this?
If you are pissed at me then come after me. Oh wait you have no case against a civilian that does not like your products, marketing or forum behavior.
The smokescreen is obvious if one sees whom is called in each summons and previous post history.