Popped my Testosterone cherry..

[jmaker]

Right Glute... I couldn't believe it. Thought I'd at least feel something. It was completely painless. I was a little stressed before the inject but now I'm pretty happy about the whole thing. I'm looking forward to many more. This being my first cycle I will post a log of my progress if anyone is interested. I'm running Omnadren 500mg/weekly for 10 weeks and Dbol 40mg daily for the first 6 weeks. :D

[gustavo77]

Good luck bro!! Ya the first shot is not half as bad as the anxiety about it..lol.

[Mr.Freeze]

:D Welcome in the BIG league!

[IronMan]

That sounds like a great fist cycle, great products and a good starting dose.

[SorelC]

Dbol make a hell of a kick start, love those blue guys

[ergie]

Welcome to the darkside........you do have a pct planned right?

[7 Scape O'Tech]

dark side? I see it as him seeing the light! ;)

[ergie]

lol well put

[spinalcolum]

You should get some fantastic results outa this cycle.. Fergie's right though,, You better get on a good PCT program.

[jmaker]

Thanks for the comments guys. The "Dark Side" sounds good to me, has a nice ring to it. As for my PCT, this was actually more time consuming as far as research is concerned then the cycle itself. Here's what I have decided on, unless of course you more experienced guys see flaws in this.

My cycle is 10 weeks. At week 8 - 12 I will use HCG. At week 13 I will start clomid. I already have Letro on hand, but I don't want to use it unless I have to.
What do you guys recommend for the HCG and Clomid doses?

[ergie]

You might need to use the letro while on the dbol but after I defenitely wouldn't touch it, dose the clomid at 100mg/ED

[jmaker]

Okay, 100mg ed... and what about the HCG? Is 500IU / Weekly enough.

[ergie]

500iu Every 3 days on the last 3 weeks of your cycle

[SorelC]

well there a few ways to run the clomid,, could jack it up to 300mg first day then keep it at 100 untill you feel "recovered", just my 2 cents and what ive done my past few cycles, as for hcg, from my understanding,(havt ran it yet but will on upcomming one) 500iu per day first 3 weeks(pct weeks), if your ganna run it during cycle, which with what your using i dont see the point but 5000 ius for the last 4 weeks seems to be quoted alot around from where im from. again just my 2 cents worth...

[jmaker]

Also, just to add.. I'm also taking B5 to help prevent acne and I'm taking Milk Thistle for my liver. S&H Health store here in London has a new product by a company named "QUEST" that has 2100mg of Milk Thistle seed extract per capsule as compared to most that have 250 to 450mg per cap. Hopefully the Dbol won't kick the shit outta my liver so bad..

[SorelC]

You shouldt have to worry too much if thats your only oral, but if you got things on hands it cant hurt to be safe

[jmaker]

My understanding is that HCG is mainly taken while on cycle and the gap between your last inject and your first clomid dose, (Or whatever else you may use instead of clomid, be it Nolva or whatever).

[SorelC]

That ist a bad protol call at all, i was thinking of running that one,, theres so many different way to expierment. im ganna try a few for my future cycles n see what works best

[jmaker]

My first injection as I mentioned was painless...Until yesterday. Feels like a I've been kicked in the ass by a bull. I injected friday and its now sunday. I can deal with the discomfort, but just want to make sure this is normal. I have to keep my weight on my left glute while sitting, right glute is just too damn sore. Also, tomorrow when I inject again, I'm gonna hit the left glute. Hopefully a couple days after that my right is good again. I'm not shooting anywhere but my glutes, so hopefully I don't end up having to inject an already sore spot.

[SorelC]

Its normal , with long acting esters,, and you got alot more then 2 spots to inject into.. some food for thought.!

[ergie]

500ius is to much HCG IMO, you have to be carefull with it or you can desensitize your Ledwig cells. 300mg of clomid can cause major sides, turn you into a bitch, blur your vision....... I've always ran 100mg throughout with success but everyone is different.

[SorelC]

300mgs for 1 day, aint too harsh,, just notice whats worked for me and whats gotten my blood work to b where it needs to be as soon as possible, again never gave hcg a shot so ill keep eveything in a log and see how things progress when i giv it a go,,, Sorry for the hijack

[ergie]

ya I know some who love frontloading there clomid but I know lots of people who just cant do it because of what happens, 100mg of clomid and 20mg of nolva does the trick for me.

[SorelC]

yea alot seem to get the,,:( ""WHY is THE WORLD SUCH A BAD PLACE":( side

I just take it before i pass out, hav notice anything really, weird dreams but cant really blame the clomid for it. HAVE you tryed Hcg? is it effecitve for faster recovery?

[jmaker]

Many users have reported tremendous success with HCG. A few PCT experts out there recommend using it throughout an entire cycle. I won't for two main reasons. Too many injections for my first go around, and money. I have decided to run it near the end of my cycle to help get my natural test levels going. I have zero experience with any of this, so I probably won't front load the clomid. No sence in risking the sides when I might respond perfectly to it without front loading. I will also be documenting my entire cycle. Everything from Calorie and Protein intake, to my training regiment and also detailed information on how I responded to HCG and clomid. I will also post before and after pics when my cycle is complete.

To let you all know, I am 29 years old. 5'10 187 lbs. My goal is to be around 210 - 215 lbs upon completion of this cycle. That would give me gains of about 23 - 28 lbs.

[SorelC]

Many users have reported tremendous success with HCG. A few PCT experts out there recommend using it throughout an entire cycle. I won't for two main reasons. Too many injections for my first go around, and money. I have decided to run it near the end of my cycle to help get my natural test levels going. I have zero experience with any of this, so I probably won't front load the clomid. No sence in risking the sides when I might respond perfectly to it without front loading. I will also be documenting my entire cycle. Everything from Calorie and Protein intake, to my training regiment and also detailed information on how I responded to HCG and clomid. I will also post before and after pics when my cycle is complete.

To let you all know, I am 29 years old. 5'10 187 lbs. My goal is to be around 210 - 215 lbs upon completion of this cycle. That would give me gains of about 23 - 28 lbs.
Nice aim bratha:cool: , whats your diet at the current time

[ergie]

yea alot seem to get the,,:( ""WHY is THE WORLD SUCH A BAD PLACE":( side

I just take it before i pass out, hav notice anything really, weird dreams but cant really blame the clomid for it. HAVE you tryed Hcg? is it effecitve for faster recovery?

Ya I use it and it seems to work, in between your last shot and start of pct. 500ius E3D seems to do the trick

[jmaker]

My diet is fairly simple.. take in about 4000 - 5000 calories daily. Take in between 200 and 250 grams of protein daily. Keep my fat intake to a minimum.
I eat a lot of roast beef, chicken breast and tuna. I'm aiming to eat every 2.5 - 3 hours. I'm using Muscle Juice to help with my caloric intake and it gives me about half of my protein.
I have ran a cycle of Phera-plex (pro-hormone) which kind of prepped me in this with regards to trying to meet calorie and protein objectives on a daily basis.

Thanks for your input guys. So here is how the entire cycle unfolds:

Week 1 - 10 Omnadren 250mg E3D
Week 1 - 6 40mg Dbol daily
Week 10 - 13 HCG 500ius E3D
Week 13 - 16 Clomid 100mg daily until recovered.

***Cycle includes B5, Multi-vitamins, Milk Thistle, Omega 3-6-9, Letro on hand***

[ergie]

sounds good, keep us updated on your progress

[SorelC]

My diet is fairly simple.. take in about 4000 - 5000 calories daily. Take in between 200 and 250 grams of protein daily. Keep my fat intake to a minimum.
I eat a lot of roast beef, chicken breast and tuna. I'm aiming to eat every 2.5 - 3 hours. I'm using Muscle Juice to help with my caloric intake and it gives me about half of my protein.
I have ran a cycle of Phera-plex (pro-hormone) which kind of prepped me in this with regards to trying to meet calorie and protein objectives on a daily basis.

Thanks for your input guys. So here is how the entire cycle unfolds:

Week 1 - 10 Omnadren 250mg E3D
Week 1 - 6 40mg Dbol daily
Week 10 - 13 HCG 500ius E3D
Week 13 - 16 Clomid 100mg daily until recovered.

***Cycle includes B5, Multi-vitamins, Milk Thistle, Omega 3-6-9, Letro on hand***

Damn bro, how much carbs you eating?? if your getting 250 pro max, low fat,, and on a 4000-5000 calorie diet,, i think you might be severly overdoing the carbs a bit,, healthy fats have thier benefits too, shoot me up if you need a few pointers or just wanna hear what i think might be considered a pointer!:)

[gustavo77]

I have used HCG on cycle for the past two cycles and it has made an incredible difference in my recovery. HCG keeps the testes stimulated and prevents any significant testicular atrophy (shrinkage) during cycle. Fergie is correct 500iu e3d is the perfect dose as HCG has a half life of between 3 and 4 days and 500iu is enough to fully stimulate For the sake of simplicity i just run 500iu 2x per week from week two of my cycle right up till 4 days before i start pct.

[jmaker]

Did my second injection yesterday. Left glute. I'm getting good pumps in the gym and I'm pretty sure the DBol is kicking in already here in day 5. My morning weight is up to 189 from 186.5. Seems like alot to gain in only a few days but I know my scale is accurate. So far so good, only negative at all this far is an aching ass which will only get less and less.

[ergie]

Are you doing ass injects only?

[jmaker]

Yep.. just keep switching cheeks.

[jmaker]

Today is day 7 of my cycle. My morning weight has climbed from 186.5 to 191.5. 5 Lbs in 7 days so far. I'll post every few days for updates.

[SorelC]

Nice gains bro, keeep it up:cool:

[jmaker]

Morning weight up to 193. My latest injection is the best so far. The pain is nothing like the first two. My strength in the gym is increasing and my pumps are awesome.

[ergie]

Coming along nicely bro, which labs dbol you running?

[jmaker]

SA Labs...

My morning weight is up to 195.5. -- 9 Lbs in 9 days. I only need 14 lbs to achieve my goal and I'm only 9 days into a 10 week cycle. I think I'm responding nicely to my first cycle. Looks like all the hours I spent researching and talking to more experienced ppl like yourselves is paying off big time. My arms were 16 inches and my chest was 42 inches when I started. I don't want to measure until I'm done the 10 weeks but I'd like to see some great gains. I would really like to get to 17" arms. I have a problem in my left forearm. I get really deep bruised like feeling when curling. I've researched the hell outta this and no one seems to know how to fix this. I believe its called the Ulna bone, which is being stressed. Hurts like a bitch. Its to the point where I can't just work through the pain. Alot of people are quick to suggest the EZ curl bar, but this is what I use. I hit the biceps with many different routines, but I love the pump I get when curling, so this kinda blows.

Any suggestions???

[SorelC]

streching and direct work(ie.wrist curls),, it might hurt at bit more at first but it will help out in the long run

[Smoke Eater]

Very nice results so far!

[mcgee]

I get the exact same pain in my forearm. When doing concentration curls try using a dumbell and putting it at roughly a 60 degree angle (which is a little more than the ez bar angle. As far as barbell curls I just tough it out. Results looking good so far, keep up the hard work.

[ergie]

I get that every once and awhile too, usually lay off most straight bar and it seems to get better in 2-3 weeks

[jmaker]

Been a few days since I updated so here ya go...

Today is day 16. I'm making considerable gains so far on this cycle. My morning weight is 197.5 lbs. I've gained 10.5 lbs in 16 days. My glutes have adapted nicely to the injections. I'm barely even sore at all the the day after an inject. The DBol seems to be working nicely. I did biceps yesterday and the pumps were amazing... in fact almost a little too much, but feels good. The only place I'm getting uncomfortable pumps is in my delts believe it or not, and not even when I'm necessarily targeting them. Perhaps some Taurine will help with the pumps?
Anways, I'll update again in a few days, so far I'm enjoying the gains and I'm looking bigger.

[liquidfire]

Sounds like it's going well!