PCT for Var only cycle

[neobol]

So I just ran a var only cycle for about 8 weeks to harden up and try to lose some body fat. I ended the cycle on Friday and am running some low level Nolva for PCT. Sunday and yesterday I got sick.. and now I'm feeling fluish. I know var pumps up the immune system, but I literally got sick as soon as I stopped.

So thoughts on:
- The effectiveness of the Nolva for PCT since there shouldn't be any estrogen to clean up.. I'll probably keep up 20mg/day for a week or two. I have clomid on hand but have always been wary of clomid.
- Illness.. is this because my natural test is low/suppressed, or just because I'm moving back to test from highly anabolic oxandrolone

What do you guys think? I hate getting sick - is it low levels, so need to rebound asap? Do you guys get sick as soon as you go into PCT?

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[Drifter]

Wow , well it is flu season , but your amune system will drop a bit after coming off the Var , I dont know why your taking the Nolva from a var only cycle ? honestly I would just let them come back on their own from this . but thats my opinion . people will say different of course .

So how did you like the Var only ? did you drop any bf or harden up like you wanted to ?
I always recomend a test injection base with any cycle and am usually against oral only

[Seth]

I couldn't agree more with the "flu season" comment as I've been struggling to breathe normally for the past 2 days

[xxSCHiSMxx]

I couldn't agree more with the "flu season" comment as I've been struggling to breathe normally for the past 2 days
Ditto. Been a couple weeks for me. Crazy weather here on East Coast ain't helping much. Took my dogs for a walk, and seen earth worms on the sidewalk in Dec.

[neobol]

Wow , well it is flu season , but your amune system will drop a bit after coming off the Var , I dont know why your taking the Nolva from a var only cycle ? honestly I would just let them come back on their own from this . but thats my opinion . people will say different of course .

So how did you like the Var only ? did you drop any bf or harden up like you wanted to ?
I always recomend a test injection base with any cycle and am usually against oral only

I'm also normally of the opinion that cycles should have a test base, but some of the guys on MN spoke favourably of Var only cycles, so I thought I'd try it. I did get stronger and a little thicker with no bloating, but did not succeed in losing much body fat. I assume that recovery should be easy, and the decision to do another var only cycle would depend on recovery time. I might throw test into the mix next time.

As for the Nolva, I'd assume that it isn't necessary, but other threads always say that proper PCT should be done anyway. Now I'm torn.

[xxSCHiSMxx]

Proper PCT is always a must.

[tripleA]

Did your nuts shrink?

[St]

Its flu season,that is why you are sick,i just got over it.But you should get some Trib or hcg,no matter what the gear is, you always will need some PCT.But low (natural) test levels do keep your immune systen a little weak.

[#8]

get your bloodwork done. see if you even have depleted levels of test. i have run var only cycles and it had zero effect on my testosterone. maybe im lucky, but it is fairly mild in terms of shut down if any effect at all. get bloodwork done as asess from there.