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kloan
10-12-2008, 03:31 PM
I just did my second shot, this time in my left glute. Aspirated, bubbles.. pushed er all in.. when I pulled the needle out, a big ol pool of blood followed (quickly put an alcohol pad on it and held with pressure for a minute or so). Is there any chance oil came out with it? If so, enough that I should do another shot or should I be ok til the next one? I was a lil suprised to see that...

One thing I'm wondering is if maybe it was because I had a hard time keeping my hand steady.. all the way pushing the oil in the needle was moving ever so slightly in and out.. very tiny tiny bit, but could that have possibly done something to cause this?

nisser
10-12-2008, 03:35 PM
You just punctured a vein on your way in. It's no big deal, you didn't lose too much oil and you shouldn't reshoot.

Drifter
10-12-2008, 03:36 PM
you wil be fine , probably knicked a vein thats all . it happens all the time .
If you did lose oil you would have noticed it , but its nothing to worry about .

next time try to pull the skin to the side before you inject this will help plug the hole so to speak when you pull the pin out

only need to be concernd when you asperate and its full of blood , then pull it out and move the injection spot over a little bit , but use a different pin to keep it sharp

lambchops
10-12-2008, 03:36 PM
heh i saw my first blood today as well squirted out of my delt when i pulled out. GF said my face went white lol

Drifter
10-12-2008, 03:38 PM
heh i saw my first blood today as well squirted out of my delt when i pulled out. GF said my face went white lol

ya its scarey at first , but you get used to it fast

Redz
10-12-2008, 03:39 PM
This is not a problem as stated above likely you just knicked or went through a vein. You would know if you injected into one.

#8
10-12-2008, 03:42 PM
i sometimes have a bit of blood left in the syringe, a very small amount, but there is some there after I pull it out. Is that bad?

Redz
10-12-2008, 03:45 PM
I have had that happen before no big deal ^^^ as long as you aspirate you are fine.

kloan
10-12-2008, 03:49 PM
ok, that's a relief.. i know i've read this before, but once it's happened it did make me a little concerned.. i did do the z method, but i think not very well because i'm not as flexible to the left as i am to the right, so i was cramping up pretty bad trying to reach.

anyway, glad to know it's no big deal.

#8
10-12-2008, 03:49 PM
i have never aspirated before....i only shoot in my glutes

Drifter
10-12-2008, 03:52 PM
i sometimes have a bit of blood left in the syringe, a very small amount, but there is some there after I pull it out. Is that bad?

no thats not bad . you wil know if you inject int a vein . first thing that wil happen , you wil start coughing uncontrollably and feel like shit . I fell to the floor the time I went in to one and was gasping for air I thought I was going to die .
thats why you try not to move the pin around after you asperate to make sure its still in the same place

Big D
10-12-2008, 03:53 PM
i have never aspirated before....i only shoot in my glutes


you should probably aspirate, better be safe then sorry.

Drifter
10-12-2008, 03:53 PM
i have never aspirated before....i only shoot in my glutes

ALWAYS asperate even in your glutes !!!!

#8
10-12-2008, 03:54 PM
whats the worst that could happen if i dont?

Drifter
10-12-2008, 03:55 PM
i did do the z method, but i think not very well because i'm not as flexible to the left as i am to the right, so i was cramping up pretty bad trying to reach.


Try your delts for another spot to inject . I find it easyer to hit than glutes

Drifter
10-12-2008, 03:57 PM
whats the worst that could happen if i dont?


you wil know if you inject int a vein . first thing that wil happen , you wil start coughing uncontrollably and feel like shit . I fell to the floor the time I went in to one and was gasping for air I thought I was going to die .
thats why you try not to move the pin around after you asperate to make sure its still in the same place

that or worse . hopefully you dont have what I had happen at the verry least

kloan
10-12-2008, 04:37 PM
no thats not bad . you wil know if you inject int a vein . first thing that wil happen , you wil start coughing uncontrollably and feel like shit . I fell to the floor the time I went in to one and was gasping for air I thought I was going to die .
thats why you try not to move the pin around after you asperate to make sure its still in the same place

thats doesn't sound good at all..

Big D
10-12-2008, 04:44 PM
whats the worst that could happen if i dont?

why not aspirate ?? it takes 1 second.

420
10-12-2008, 05:01 PM
Happened to me the other day. I don't aspirate. I don't think its necessary. The worst that can happen is you get a little dizzy, out of breath and hot flash. Some poeple say you can die but i think its a load. When the doctor gives you shots they don't aspirate.

check this out

http://www.immunize.org/catg.d/p2020.pdf

ironwill
10-12-2008, 05:07 PM
Happened to me the other day. I don't aspirate. I don't think its necessary. The worst that can happen is you get a little dizzy, out of breath and hot flash. Some poeple say you can die but i think its a load. When the doctor gives you shots they don't aspirate.

check this out

http://www.immunize.org/catg.d/p2020.pdf
very bad advice....i dont get it,,,it takes a sec....I dont know you can die, i do know you can get oil in your vascular system as well as lung lining, very, unhealthy i would think...
always aspirate....

Van Zan
10-12-2008, 05:26 PM
Inject slowly. That way if you hit a vein less oil would have the time to enter by the time you start coughing and feel like shit. I also advise to aspirate

waderow
10-12-2008, 05:28 PM
i have never aspirated before....i only shoot in my glutes

for the second i takes, why wouldn't you?

#8
10-12-2008, 05:30 PM
how far do you pull back on the plunger to aspirate? if blood comes into the syringe that means its a bad spot? does it make it as far as the syringe or do you see it before then in the base of the needle? i looked for a website that showed how to, but i couldnt find one dealing with glute injections...

Houstonbc
10-12-2008, 06:41 PM
/\ just pull back a small bit on the pluger once the needle is all the way in, if you get a small air bubble good to go, if you get blood re start

if you hit a vein you will know man and ya you can see blood quite clearly!

Mad-Bull
10-12-2008, 06:52 PM
how far do you pull back on the plunger to aspirate? if blood comes into the syringe that means its a bad spot? does it make it as far as the syringe or do you see it before then in the base of the needle? i looked for a website that showed how to, but i couldnt find one dealing with glute injections...

Man o' man I can't believe you haven't aspirated. Even in your glutes your still pushing your luck.

"Pull back slightly on the plunger - you will see one of two things. (A). You will see a couple small air bubbles that when you stop apping pressure upward on the plunger will readily go back into the muscle or (B). Droplets of blood. (A) being the obviously favorable one. If there is blood you must pull out, switch needles and start over."

#8
10-12-2008, 06:56 PM
its weird that the website says its not necessary though. and ive never had a doctor do it when receiving injections either.....

Led Hed
10-12-2008, 07:03 PM
I shoot the quads and there is usually a small amount of blood. Quite normal and nothing to worry about as everyone else has said.

Mr Ontario
10-12-2008, 07:08 PM
super glue bro super glue :)

waderow
10-12-2008, 07:15 PM
its weird that the website says its not necessary though. and ive never had a doctor do it when receiving injections either.....

a nurse giving you a jab, who knows where to jab 100% of time, and always has right angle ect. probably doesnt have to aspirate. I have heard of some nurses even "air locking" which involves shooting air in after the drug.

In my opinion, this is highly stupid in our case. As numero uno, why not apsirate and be safe? If we were to blast 2-3cc of test, deca, tren or whatever the **** were injecting that day directly into our blood stream, I am thinking severe reaction from our body. like maybe death, or brain getting ****ed up. Lungs gettin f****ed up? Who knows.

And I for one, will never find out, as I will ALWAYS aspirate. I use my finger to lightly pull back on plunger, watch the little air bubble grow, and then voila, injection.

I have only once hit a vein, and that was IM with slin pin in Lat. Otherwise, I have passed through veins countless times in quads and delts, but never aspirated blood. Likely never will, but still, I dont want to risk ****ing myself up real bad by main lining a barrel full of SA test prop and NPP.

giannos
10-12-2008, 07:26 PM
Just did the same thing last night bro... Injected 1.5 cc's into glute, aspirated.. no blood.. injected and must have had an unsteady hand cause I was shooting tren and half way through, i got the worse tren cough ever.. Had to pull the needled out ( only half injected ) as I was coughing so F'N bad and a stream of blood poured out.. I definitely punctured a vein going in, aspirated and nothing.. But man, that was some TRIP.. Coughing, seeing stars, BP through the roof.. My girl said I was red as a lobster... lol

waderow
10-12-2008, 09:28 PM
Just did the same thing last night bro... Injected 1.5 cc's into glute, aspirated.. no blood.. injected and must have had an unsteady hand cause I was shooting tren and half way through, i got the worse tren cough ever.. Had to pull the needled out ( only half injected ) as I was coughing so F'N bad and a stream of blood poured out.. I definitely punctured a vein going in, aspirated and nothing.. But man, that was some TRIP.. Coughing, seeing stars, BP through the roof.. My girl said I was red as a lobster... lol

and thats not even a direct intervenous injection. could you imagine?

gordi
10-12-2008, 10:42 PM
My wife is a qualified RN and she always aspirates when giving me my TRT shots. She was trained in Japan, maybe that's why it's different from what some of you have experienced.

If she's not around to shoot me I always use the vastus lateralis to self-inject. Right side or left, I find it much easier to control the needle going into my thigh than into my glutes or delts. She usually does delt injections, she doesn't want to risk jabbing me in the sciatic nerve. I'm more than OK with that.

tex
10-12-2008, 10:59 PM
i just had this happen today! pulled the needle out and BOOM....blooooood.....i wouldnt worry about it...it takes quite a bit of oil injected into a vein to really **** wit your heart/lungs

Houstonbc
10-12-2008, 11:46 PM
happens to me from time to time

the first time holy shit i almost passed out i hate the sight of my own blood

KINE
11-12-2008, 12:40 AM
Always aspirate...also I use the Z track technique whenever I can or when someone else is shooting for me, never any blood.

guym
11-12-2008, 12:52 AM
Many injections done by docs/nurses are not oil based and often do no harm if injected into a vein (Not always the case, but often) Also to aspirate with water-based stuff is so much easier than with oil...barely a flick + you know. BTW don't pull back on the plunger like mad; this can collapse veins.

The ONE time I was in a vein I had barely started to pull back when WHOOSH the barrel filled with a cc of blood in no time. You'll know right away...

Amoral
11-12-2008, 01:12 AM
The ONE time I was in a vein I had barely started to pull back when WHOOSH the barrel filled with a cc of blood in no time. You'll know right away...

My first quad shot was like that too. Aspirated and a full cc through a 23g in a split second. Darrrrk red too

L3
11-12-2008, 08:38 AM
if you aspirate and blood gets in the syringe do you have to pitch it? can u just poke again and inj the blood/oil into another spot?

waderow
11-12-2008, 09:04 AM
depends how much blood 1 cc of blood??? i would pitch it. You shouldnt pull so hard on the plunger. Just a little tug.

Big D
11-12-2008, 11:34 AM
if you aspirate and blood gets in the syringe do you have to pitch it? can u just poke again and inj the blood/oil into another spot?

i wouldnt pitch it if its a few drops, happens to me once in a while, just switch the tip and try again.

tony_canuck
11-12-2008, 02:05 PM
I use the Z track technique whenever I can .



me too.....

the odd time a quick little trickle, nothing too expensive leaking out ;)