i just picked up some Humalog

[Kilburn]

it's a 10ml vial 100iu/ml.

i was thinking of doing 2iu post workout for 4 weeks on/4 weeks off. after the injection i will have a shake with oats, milk and 2 scoops of protien after that i was thinking of sipping on a big jug of orange juice blended with 2-3 bananas, creatine and beta alanine.

anyone have experience or advice for me?

also, can i shoot it with my 25 guage needles or should i go get special slin pins? so 1 little notch on the 25 would be 1/10th of a ml so that would be 10iu. hm, so guess it is bascally impossble to measure out 2iu with a 25?

[waderow]

holy dude. serious shit to be injecting if youre unsure of the doseage math or the pins

1. i wouldnt do insulin with out a blood meter.

2. lots of carbs on standby.

3. an insulin buddy to make sure i dont die the first few times.

4. and you really need to use slin pins so you can be accurate, as a little goes a long way....a little too much can **** you over

[Kilburn]

ya i fgured about the pins but i thought someone might have a special technique. or on days where i load up roids it would be nice to just put the slin in there too but i guess that isn't an option.

so humalog lasts for 4 hours. around how much carbs should i be having during this time?

[Drifter]

holy dude. serious shit to be injecting if youre unsure of the doseage math or the pins

1. i wouldnt do insulin with out a blood meter.

2. lots of carbs on standby.

3. an insulin buddy to make sure i dont die the first few times.

4. and you really need to use slin pins so you can be accurate, as a little goes a long way....a little too much can **** you over


do your homework on the insulin . ^^ this is good advice and all but you can have seriouse health issuse if you dont know what your doing with it .
oh and its shot sub Q not IM

[Kilburn]

do your homework on the insulin . ^^ this is good advice and all but you can have seriouse health issuse if you dont know what your doing with it .
oh and its shot sub Q not IM

i heard either works and it doesnt really matter, same thing with hgh. but ya whatever, i'm just going to do the 2IU. i'm surei'll be fine.

[Drifter]

1. i wouldnt do insulin with out a blood meter.

2. lots of carbs on standby.

3. an insulin buddy to make sure i dont die the first few times.

4. and you really need to use slin pins so you can be accurate, as a little goes a long way....a little too much can **** you over

Good luck and leep us posted . just keep these basic rules and shoot sub q .

[canadianmuscle0803]

it's a 10ml vial 100iu/ml.

i was thinking of doing 2iu post workout for 4 weeks on/4 weeks off. after the injection i will have a shake with oats, milk and 2 scoops of protien after that i was thinking of sipping on a big jug of orange juice blended with 2-3 bananas, creatine and beta alanine.

anyone have experience or advice for me?

also, can i shoot it with my 25 guage needles or should i go get special slin pins? so 1 little notch on the 25 would be 1/10th of a ml so that would be 10iu. hm, so guess it is bascally impossble to measure out 2iu with a 25?

2iu is a very low dose but if its your first time then it might be good to start that low and work your way up.. the rule of thumb is for every 1iu of slin you need to take in 10grams of simple carbs (dextrose) use a 1ml slin needle, every dash on the slin needle = 2iu of insulin.. its pretty basic.. number 10 on the slin needle = 10iu of insulin and so on.. why would you want to use a 25 gauge needle for insulin injections? just use a 1ml insulin needle and inject subq (into the sin of the belly, but not too close to your belly button)

[canadianmuscle0803]

i heard either works and it doesnt really matter, same thing with hgh. but ya whatever, i'm just going to do the 2IU. i'm surei'll be fine.

are you going to be taking the insulin with anything else? gear wise or GH? when i take insulin (humalog) i take it along side with growth hormone.. insulin does wonders for adding size but as others above said do your homework and do it properly.. when i used to take it i went as high as 15iu post workout but i dont recommend this for anyone unless you are a very advanced user.. I have seen guys go into hypoglycemia due to improper use and not taking in enough carbs directly after your dose.. just be careful!!

[Kilburn]

nope, no GH for me, i can't afford that shit otherwise i would try it.

the cycle ive been doing for about 12 weeks now around is:

625mg test e
300mg tren e
150mg EQ (mostly for joints)

i'm going to stay on this cycle for awhile longer and see if i can make some big gains with the slin added in. if 2IUs is good i will probably move up to 4 or so.

i'm going to start taking orals again soon, i have some anadrol and M1T kicking around.

[canadianmuscle0803]

nope, no GH for me, i can't afford that shit otherwise i would try it.

the cycle ive been doing for about 12 weeks now around is:

625mg test e
300mg tren e
150mg EQ (mostly for joints)

i'm going to stay on this cycle for awhile longer and see if i can make some big gains with the slin added in. if 2IUs is good i will probably move up to 4 or so.

i'm going to start taking orals again soon, i have some anadrol and M1T kicking around.


if you dont mind answering, what are your stats including height and training experience?

[Descimus]

Good idea to start very low, always have some sugary juice or stuff on hand dont go sleep after a shot of slin, at least for 4 hour after the shot. Use it only after workout and drink your mixture of carbs prot, creatine glut and amino and alot of water with all this.. Make sure you either get a solid meal 30-45 min after or your blood sugar will plummet. On a side note this happened to me, dont get your postworkout drink wait like 15-20 min and make your shot of slin thinking you are going to be ok your body will already be very high in insulin and you will go hypo really quickly i got as low as 2.2 on the accucheck so shoot slin then immediatly drink your mixture of carbs and protein then a second mixture 30-45 min depending on how you feel. Make sure you dont eat any fatty meal 2-3 hour before to up to 4 hour after. Try all clean carbs and fat free protein. ( i try to stay under 10g of fat during that 6 hour periods. When you will be familiar 10g carbs per ui can go as low as 6g carbs per ui then again caution with this also go slowly buy a accucheck meter if you want to see how fast it goes and all.. Good luck and play it safe man.

[Kilburn]

if you dont mind answering, what are your stats including height and training experience?

im not going to go into all that but here's a picture, i'm 5'11 205. if i could get to 220 i would be about perfect.

http://img511.imageshack.us/img511/3280/77017642pi3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[natenator]

im not going to go into all that but here's a picture, i'm 5'11 205. if i could get to 220 i would be about perfect.

http://img511.imageshack.us/img511/3280/77017642pi3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
do you really think you are advanced enough to be using insulin without trainer guidance?

[L3]

do you really think you are advanced enough to be using insulin without trainer guidance?

^^ as much as i dont like this guy im going to have to agree with him. In no way shape or form am I an expert and ive never used slin, but man, at 205 there is no need to be playing with that shit. You're already running 1g+ of gear a week, and I dunno when that pic was taken pre or post workout but you're not looking dry or vascular at all. The slin w/out GH will just make you pack on more fat, which you could totally acomplish just by increasing your cals from carbs.

Sounds like you've already made up your mind tho, stay safe bro!

[natenator]

^^ as much as i dont like this guy im going to have to agree with him.

LOL

Good thing I never cared much about popularity contests ;)

[wrought]

im not going to go into all that but here's a picture, i'm 5'11 205. if i could get to 220 i would be about perfect.

http://img511.imageshack.us/img511/3280/77017642pi3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

You don't NEED slin. Heck, even if 205 was your dried out stage weight you still wouldn't need slin... You can take it if you want just for the experience but I'll virtually guarantee that you won't get the super magic amazing transformation that you're expecting hoping for.

You want to get to a solid, lean 220? Get your diet nailed down and keep plugging away for a year or two. :)

[waderow]

kilburn, youre in good shape bro,
you should really be able to pack on some pounds fast with food, test , and tren.

[Kilburn]

ive only been juicing for a little over a year and have added about 35 pounds of muscle during that time. i guess i should be happy?

i'm going to start doing deadlifts again. i got up to 405 for x4 then i quit, cause i hate them but i guess i need to start it up again.

[natenator]

juicing for just over a year now and you want to use slin? You are definitely a candidate to be reading this: http://scottabel.blogspot.com/2007/01/dying-to-compete-dying-to-be-huge-dying.html

[Drifter]

juicing for just over a year now and you want to use slin? You are definitely a candidate to be reading this: http://scottabel.blogspot.com/2007/01/dying-to-compete-dying-to-be-huge-dying.html

Good read bro . even that link that he had was a good one also

[Kilburn]

juicing for just over a year now and you want to use slin? You are definitely a candidate to be reading this: http://scottabel.blogspot.com/2007/01/dying-to-compete-dying-to-be-huge-dying.html

stfu, i use moderate doses of everything not like some of the idiots on here that take like 1.5 grams of test plus god knows what else then they're also too pussy to post up a picture. like that guy who posted like 30 bottles of SA shit and says it's for a 4 week cycle. so you're saying just cause youve been juicing for a long time gives you license to be a fuk head? oh, ive been juicing for 10 years so it's ok for me to take 30iu of slin everyday.

[Kilburn]

Good read bro . even that link that he had was a good one also

i read part of it and got sick of listening to that bitch whine and cry. fuk that guy.

[IronRobi]

Lots of good advise in this thread. Slin is very powerful stuff, and unless you know exactly what you're doing you CAN die. I'd do more research and get some more experience before even considering it.

[natenator]

stfu, i use moderate doses of everything not like some of the idiots on here that take like 1.5 grams of test plus god knows what else then they're also too pussy to post up a picture. like that guy who posted like 30 bottles of SA shit and says it's for a 4 week cycle. so you're saying just cause youve been juicing for a long time gives you license to be a fuk head? oh, ive been juicing for 10 years so it's ok for me to take 30iu of slin everyday.
Alright dip shit. I've been on the sauce for 4 years. Am 32 currently. I built 90% of my physique before I ever touched juice. You can't say the same.

You are young and ignorant and that's ok. We all we once. But you're ignorance could potentially cost you your life. I have considerably more training, nutritional and steroid experience than you do yet I would still never touch insulin. I am not going to compete as a pro or even attempt to compete at the national level so the risks are not worth it.

Can you say that you plan to compete at a national level and hope to gain a pro card someday? If the answer to that is no then you really shouldn't be using insulin. Especially after only a year of steroid use. You know nothing about your body yet.

You are looking for a quick fix and if stupidity is to be rewarded I hope it is done so with a trip to heaven. Good luck.

[#8]

I dont get why anyone would want to use slin. How are the benefits worth the risks? 5-10lbs more of muscle? Is it THAT important to risk serious health issues, possibly forever? Get your diet in order and grab a coach who knows what he or she is doing and that will take your body to the next level bro. Be smart and safe.

[Houstonbc]

dude you can easily get to 220 if you eat properly and hit a nice cycle and train proper. be patient ditch the slin

[Kilburn]

can 2iu of humalog really fuk me up that badly? jesus.

[#8]

its not the 2iu dose thats making guys trip out. its the road you're heading down. you're already taking a good amount of gear and looking for more. where does it stop?

[natenator]

can 2iu of humalog really fuk me up that badly? jesus.
Can 200mg of DNP really fuk someone up? Answer.. yes!

[Houstonbc]

whats the point? add in an extra meal instead and it will be way safer and youll probly reach your goal quicker

[Kilburn]

i did my first shot today. did 3 IU. feeling normal.

had 2 scoops of protien, milk, oats, a bunch of soda crackers and creatine mixed with juice. so, lots and lots of carbs.

[waderow]

how did you make out:?

[natenator]

hmmmm he upped the dose already. Instead of doing 2 like he said he would he went to 3 right off the bat.

[wrought]

ive only been juicing for a little over a year and have added about 35 pounds of muscle during that time. i guess i should be happy?

i'm going to start doing deadlifts again. i got up to 405 for x4 then i quit, cause i hate them but i guess i need to start it up again.

...you started gear a year ago weighing 170lbs @ 5'11"??????

*headdesk*

Bodybuilding: Ur doin' it rong!

[IronRobi]

i did my first shot today. did 3 IU. feeling normal.

had 2 scoops of protien, milk, oats, a bunch of soda crackers and creatine mixed with juice. so, lots and lots of carbs.

I gather the point of this threat was to get people to agree and encourage you to use slin. Your ignoring a lot of good advise from a lot of smart experienced guys. I wish you all the best.

[natenator]

I gather the point of this threat was to get people to agree and encourage you to use slin. Your ignoring a lot of good advise from a lot of smart experienced guys. I wish you all the best.
and forget the fact he is injesting the WRONG carbs to begin with.

Not sure whether to pray for his safety or a bodybag and let natural selection take precidence lol

[Descimus]

oatmeal at higher slin dose wont cut it bro use some dextrose or malto or some low fat sugary cereal or something. Rofl for me 2 bowl of captain crunch with fat free milk on my carb up day after the shot does the job lol

[Big D]

oatmeal at higher slin dose wont cut it bro use some dextrose or malto or some low fat sugary cereal or something. Rofl for me 2 bowl of captain crunch with fat free milk on my carb up day after the shot does the job lol

captain crunch always cuts up the top of my mouth ;)

[waderow]

captain crunch always cuts up the top of my mouth ;)

yeah! like WTF??? Its like glass

[Descimus]

glass rofl it true it does hurt in my mouth afterward

[Kilburn]

oatmeal at higher slin dose wont cut it bro use some dextrose or malto or some low fat sugary cereal or something. Rofl for me 2 bowl of captain crunch with fat free milk on my carb up day after the shot does the job lol

i ate a whole pack of those soda crackers. do you know how many carbs that is? lol.


...you started gear a year ago weighing 170lbs @ 5'11"??????

*headdesk*

Bodybuilding: Ur doin' it rong!

around there. here's an old pic

http://img352.imageshack.us/img352/356/may07172vx1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img352.imageshack.us/img352/may07172vx1.jpg/1/w425.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img352/may07172vx1.jpg/1/)


how did you make out:?

i'm still alive so i guess it was success. i didnt notice anything really. i expected like more of a pump or something.

[Descimus]

some crazy people and i really say crazy as in i dont recommand to anyone to try it some ppl shot half their dose of slin 15-20 before the end of their workout and drink their post workout shake during that time they get a crazy pump.. other then that i find slin to help me recuperate from workout and muscle seems fuller

[ironwill]

I often wonder why so many jump up and down and cry....If you cant say something positive, or offer up good advice.....STFU....man,

My take is this...If you are going to use it, be very careful, it can be used as a supplement to help aid in recovery, and glycogen loading and help the pancreas out in getting rid of sugar in the blood, with some of the hi carb meals we eat as bodybuilders, do you not think that wreaks havoc on the pancreas, and dont you think it wise to supplement it??
Do you guys realize that one of the best ways to alleviate SHBG, sex hormone bindiong globulin is with insulin, very low doses of slin....This is the major reason i use it...
I have tried hlog, i didnt like it, i then tried Hum-R and love it....
I use Hum-r in the am with first meal and keep fats low in the day and lower carbs in the evening ,late afternoon and up my fats....
I then can use less test because SHBG is lower, much lower, and therefore i dont need to use adex, etc., etc. from excess test circulating in my blood.
Be careful bro, as some have stated previously....You are a grown ass man, make your own decisions and research, you will be fine....
Remember there is use....and ABUSE, dont be the latter and you will be fine..You appear to be using a rather small responsible dose...IMO
i only use for a couple of months per yr , maybe a bit more if i feel the need...I also find a huge benefit taking creatine with it.....
Peace

[natenator]

I often wonder why so many jump up and down and cry....If you cant say something positive, or offer up good advice.....STFU....man,

My take is this...If you are going to use it, be very careful, it can be used as a supplement to help aid in recovery, and glycogen loading and help the pancreas out in getting rid of sugar in the blood, with some of the hi carb meals we eat as bodybuilders, do you not think that wreaks havoc on the pancreas, and dont you think it wise to supplement it??
Do you guys realize that one of the best ways to alleviate SHBG, sex hormone bindiong globulin is with insulin, very low doses of slin....This is the major reason i use it...
I have tried hlog, i didnt like it, i then tried Hum-R and love it....
I use Hum-r in the am with first meal and keep fats low in the day and lower carbs in the evening ,late afternoon and up my fats....
I then can use less test because SHBG is lower, much lower, and therefore i dont need to use adex, etc., etc. from excess test circulating in my blood.
Be careful bro, as some have stated previously....You are a grown ass man, make your own decisions and research, you will be fine....
Remember there is use....and ABUSE, dont be the latter and you will be fine..You appear to be using a rather small responsible dose...IMO
i only use for a couple of months per yr , maybe a bit more if i feel the need...I also find a huge benefit taking creatine with it.....
Peace
the keyword in what you wrote was research. He clearly hadn't done it.