View Full Version : 1.5" seems really long
kloan
06-12-2008, 07:31 PM
Just got the rest of my needles. How far do you guys push these things in? It looks really long! Much longer than 1.5"... more like 2"..
BD PrecisionGlide 25g 1.5" is what I got..
champcar99
06-12-2008, 07:35 PM
all the way in bro....don't be scared little fella...lol..lol..
Mr Ontario
06-12-2008, 07:41 PM
I always use 1 inch and never had any problems....cant see myself sticking myself with 1.5 inches :)
gustavo77
06-12-2008, 07:45 PM
For me, 1.5" for glutes only, 1" for everything else. My lats are so big now that i cannot reach around to pin glutes (haha!), so i just do delts and quads with the 1".
Oh, but i still buy the 22g, 1.5" combo to draw with and then switch to a 25g, 1" pin to inject.
bossman_1986
06-12-2008, 07:47 PM
1.5 all the way in the glutes
waderow
06-12-2008, 08:00 PM
all the way, but if you bury it and push too hard, the little white thingy that seals the needle kinda gets all bunged up in the puncture and pulls a bit coming out.
i use 22 ga x 1.5" for glutes and quads. 25ga x 1" for delts.
Mr Ontario
06-12-2008, 08:03 PM
1.5 in the glutes....what are they like you lats so big...Are you having problems wiping your ass now :)
For me, 1.5" for glutes only, 1" for everything else. My lats are so big now that i cannot reach around to pin glutes (haha!), so i just do delts and quads with the 1".
Oh, but i still buy the 22g, 1.5" combo to draw with and then switch to a 25g, 1" pin to inject.
gustavo77
06-12-2008, 08:10 PM
1.5 in the glutes....what are they like you lats so big...Are you having problems wiping your ass now :)
After my back workouts i do...haha...
Flex15
06-12-2008, 08:11 PM
i find it hard to do delts...too wide
Felinecougar
06-12-2008, 08:13 PM
1.5 for glutes. 1 everywhere else imo. Needle virgin? It's easy once you see the 1.5 go in that easy. You might see 1/18 of it on the outside. Don't stop 1/2 way.
gustavo77
06-12-2008, 08:16 PM
i find it hard to do delts...too wide
I know, it's getting that way for me also...quite the reach to get all the way over there...:cool:
Flex15
06-12-2008, 08:19 PM
I know, it's getting that way for me also...quite the reach to get all the way over there...
yeah and if i do manage to get over there i feel like im going to crap up in the middle of the injection qauds are awesome :)
kloan
06-12-2008, 08:26 PM
haha.. k, thanks guys
monday is my first shot.. im excited! :D
1.5" every day......quads, delts, glutes.....and maybe bi's this week!
Houstonbc
06-12-2008, 08:36 PM
for the glute injection lat problem i found a solution
you gotta lay down on your bed or something on your side then its MUCH easier
people say dont push it i all the way to the base incase the needle breaks.
but honestly i could never see it breaking
Amoral
06-12-2008, 08:41 PM
Not to scare kloan or anything, but have you guys ever had the needle break off under your skin? I always leave like 1/8" outside the skin and make sure the length of needle in the muscle stays constant...wouldn't wanna have to dig that sucker out myself or try to make my way to a doc with a 1.5" needle burried in my friggin leg or my ass...ugh
EDIT: Dk beat me to it
bossman_1986
06-12-2008, 08:43 PM
for the glute injection lat problem i found a solution
you gotta lay down on your bed or something on your side then its MUCH easier
best way to do glutes is to put your foot up on a stool or something, i put it up on the toilet seat, you dont have to turn as much
Amoral
06-12-2008, 08:52 PM
First thing that popped into my head when I read the title of this thread was, "That's what she said!"
Cept 1.5" is bruuuuutal, and then I started wondering if there ever was such a girl to be so unfortunate to be gobbling 1.5" yogurt slingers
Drifter
06-12-2008, 09:05 PM
haha.. k, thanks guys
monday is my first shot.. im excited! :D
Let us know how it went . and welcome to the Dark Side :bch
they wont break . after your next shot , stick the cap back on , but backwards , then try to bend it to break at the base . it will just bend ..
Mr Ontario
06-12-2008, 09:12 PM
Well the wifey is a nurse or Heal Care isn't she? she can handle that for you :)
After my back workouts i do...haha...
waderow
06-12-2008, 10:36 PM
yeah, the needle isn't going to break. they are very tough, and a breaking needle would expose them to litigation. they make needles good. i have only ever heard of ONE, only ONE guy that ever had it happen, and its cause the dumb **** bent a slin pin on an angle so he could get his lats better, and he said it broke off. Had to dig it out. I feel it only broke because he bent it.
now that being said..... if it did break off in your ass......... Fuuuuuuuck would that suck
bossman_1986
06-12-2008, 10:41 PM
yeah, the needle isn't going to break. they are very tough, and a breaking needle would expose them to litigation. they make needles good. i have only ever heard of ONE, only ONE guy that ever had it happen, and its cause the dumb **** bent a slin pin on an angle so he could get his lats better, and he said it broke off. Had to dig it out. I feel it only broke because he bent it.
now that being said..... if it did break off in your ass......... Fuuuuuuuck would that suck
that'd be scaryy
1 Inch if your lean,and 1.5 if your fat.Delt 1/2 inch for me as i'm lean.Pre-Contest 1/2 for glute shots for me.
RagingRandy
07-12-2008, 12:27 AM
Not to scare kloan or anything, but have you guys ever had the needle break off under your skin? I always leave like 1/8" outside the skin and make sure the length of needle in the muscle stays constant...wouldn't wanna have to dig that sucker out myself or try to make my way to a doc with a 1.5" needle burried in my friggin leg or my ass...ugh
EDIT: Dk beat me to it
I leave them out a bit for this reason also. I also support the syringe with my other hand to keep a constant depth and so it does not move around.
Drifter
07-12-2008, 12:55 AM
Thing is , you want to go deep or it could abcess . oh and dont move it around once its in there the scraping will add to the scar tissue
pseclint
07-12-2008, 01:38 AM
I use 1 inch everywhere, not at an excess BF% so its all good, best of luck kloan
wan2lrn
07-12-2008, 01:04 PM
22 guage 1.5" in glutes and quads all the way in and smooth as butter. Not a very big guy either, 6 foot, only 205lbs. Haven't tried delts yet.
kloan
07-12-2008, 01:17 PM
22? man doesn't that hurt??
i did my first shot last night... was much easier than i thought it'd be. the only thing i was scared of was the pain, so the first approach i chickened out and had to calm myself down with a bit of breathing... but then went for it. soon as i realized it doesn't hurt, i just pushed it in.. aspirated, took my time injecting and all was good! all that reading did me just fine.... :)
and yeah, the 1.5" was perfect.. hehe, thanks guys.
next shot will be quads.
Drifter
07-12-2008, 01:50 PM
22? man doesn't that hurt??
i did my first shot last night... was much easier than i thought it'd be. the only thing i was scared of was the pain, so the first approach i chickened out and had to calm myself down with a bit of breathing... but then went for it. soon as i realized it doesn't hurt, i just pushed it in.. aspirated, took my time injecting and all was good! all that reading did me just fine.... :)
and yeah, the 1.5" was perfect.. hehe, thanks guys.
next shot will be quads.
I prefer 22 for most of mine including delts . I didnt like the smaller ones for IM shots
Welcome to the dark side bro :tu
for you quads I find if you do the " star fish " you will be fine .
what I meen there is take your hand open it with fingers out , place it on your quads with middle finger straight towards your knee . where ever your fingers are is a safe place where your going to hit the muscle deep with out hitting a nerve ect .
theres going to be some feed back on this one I know lol . but its what I do and Ive never hit an major vein or nerve
waderow
07-12-2008, 06:23 PM
22? man doesn't that hurt??
i did my first shot last night... was much easier than i thought it'd be. the only thing i was scared of was the pain, so the first approach i chickened out and had to calm myself down with a bit of breathing... but then went for it. soon as i realized it doesn't hurt, i just pushed it in.. aspirated, took my time injecting and all was good! all that reading did me just fine.... :)
and yeah, the 1.5" was perfect.. hehe, thanks guys.
next shot will be quads.
i once ran out of 22ga, so i used my 18ga. now thats big
waderow
07-12-2008, 06:31 PM
http://www.ykhoanet.com/baigiang/dieuduong/vuphong/Skill_kythuattiemantoan.pdf
Michael 2009
07-12-2008, 08:12 PM
For my part,I use 1 inch and no problem,always in quads...
Led Hed
07-12-2008, 08:28 PM
Wait, 1.5'' is huge.........right?!
michealJ
07-12-2008, 09:28 PM
Just got the rest of my needles. How far do you guys push these things in? It looks really long! Much longer than 1.5"... more like 2"..
BD PrecisionGlide 25g 1.5" is what I got..
Ha Ha close your eyes
canadianmuscle0803
08-12-2008, 07:19 AM
Just got the rest of my needles. How far do you guys push these things in? It looks really long! Much longer than 1.5"... more like 2"..
BD PrecisionGlide 25g 1.5" is what I got..
the deeper the better, even if you are lean.. i never go less then 1.5" even in my shoulders.
canadianmuscle0803
08-12-2008, 07:20 AM
Wait, 1.5'' is huge.........right?!
maybe if your asian :D
canadianmuscle0803
08-12-2008, 07:21 AM
i once ran out of 22ga, so i used my 18ga. now thats big
dude are you kidding? you inject with a 18 gauge needle??? do you have to pre-drill the hole with a cordless drill?
natenator
08-12-2008, 08:20 AM
dude are you kidding? you inject with a 18 gauge needle??? do you have to pre-drill the hole with a cordless drill?
I could be wrong but believe 18G is used for blood work.
kloan
08-12-2008, 01:00 PM
18g is used for some kinds of body piercing..
Big D
08-12-2008, 01:18 PM
clitoris piercing
Drifter
08-12-2008, 02:00 PM
dude are you kidding? you inject with a 18 gauge needle??? do you have to pre-drill the hole with a cordless drill?
I've done that a few times , I prefer not to but I ran out of 22g pins and my supply didnt come in fast ebough .
now I always make sure I have extra so that never happens again
Drifter
08-12-2008, 02:01 PM
18g is used for some kinds of body piercing..
ya unless you piss them off . I have herd that some will use a 10g on you if your being a jerk . so its always good to be nice when getting blood work done .
18g to give blood at blood bank, 22 to draw blood for blood tests, i asked
Amoral
08-12-2008, 02:43 PM
When I've been in for bloodwork, the needle they use looks probably 2mm in diameter...big ass scary MF
Led Hed
08-12-2008, 08:52 PM
Last I got blood work done, I could have sworn they used 16g. The thing was massive and hurt like a bitch
kloan
08-12-2008, 09:33 PM
yeah, they're big cuz they need to flow quickly.. those vials fill up fast. they do hurt like shit too.. especially when the nurse isn't very gentle and moves the damn thing around... last time i got work done it hurt like hell for the entire time.. 12 vials iirc.
waderow
08-12-2008, 10:18 PM
dude are you kidding? you inject with a 18 gauge needle??? do you have to pre-drill the hole with a cordless drill?
LOL I once had to as i ran out of 22ga. the 18 ga needles don't just slide through the skin/ You have to push as hard as you can, and then they just POP through the surface and are automatically buried to the shank.
HARDCORE. I will never run out again. EVER.
Led Hed
08-12-2008, 10:22 PM
yeah, they're big cuz they need to flow quickly.. those vials fill up fast. they do hurt like shit too.. especially when the nurse isn't very gentle and moves the damn thing around... last time i got work done it hurt like hell for the entire time.. 12 vials iirc.
Yes, it was truly an awful experience. They don't care that it hurts. . .she just popped it in there like it was a dead piece of meat. Terrible
LOL I once had to as i ran out of 22ga. the 18 ga needles don't just slide through the skin/ You have to push as hard as you can, and then they just POP through the surface and are automatically buried to the shank.
HARDCORE. I will never run out again. EVER.
Doesn't sound pleasant. I'll be sure to keep that in mind when I don't have 25g (which hopefully will be never).
Praetorian
08-12-2008, 10:38 PM
1.5" is for fat fu*cks...they are used all the time in hospitals...ever see most patients? 25ga 1" is standard for a BB.
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i think they use 16ga at the bloodbank in vic......i pinned my glutes and quads with 18 before......requires a smooth touch....something i dont have.....
kloan
08-12-2008, 11:25 PM
1.5" is for fat fu*cks...they are used all the time in hospitals...ever see most patients? 25ga 1" is standard for a BB.
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lol, k well then you're basically sayin everyone who recommended the 1.5" are all fat f*cks.. i kinda doubt it. i'm not a fat f*ck and the 1.5" was fine.. for the glutes anyway. i think it's too long for anywhere else and i'l have to be careful to not push it in too far.. that or order more pins.
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