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Sean
05-12-2008, 10:09 PM
http://www.mesomorphosis.com/blog/2008/12/02/illusion-labs-trial-court-date/

IronRobi
05-12-2008, 10:16 PM
It always sucks when a lab goes down, but I really hope this guy gets what's coming to him. Anybody with child porn deserves jail time and lots of it.

Drifter
05-12-2008, 10:27 PM
It always sucks when a lab goes down, but I really hope this guy gets what's coming to him. Anybody with child porn deserves jail time and lots of it.

I know him prety well , we worked together on a few things back in the day . the old timers from SSB can vouch for that I highly doubt there was kiddy porn there ( but I have been wrong before )
I think they put that there to make the public hate him even more .
I dont doubt he had some porn in his pc , but Hi highly doubt it was that

Hes going to jail obviously , but I hope its not for a long time like they say it is . 8 years total , hell I know people that went in for manslaughter and only got 3 1/2 total

nisser
06-12-2008, 12:42 AM
I used his gear before he got busted =( was great and always seemed like a standup and knowledgeable guy on SSB. I hope he gets off easy.

Seth
06-12-2008, 02:13 AM
If they say the porn was there, I wouldn't doubt it really was. Now the questions is did he put it there on purpose. He could have downloaded them by accident. It's happened to me before. You just select everything that shows up in limewire and download. Even if you delete it it can show up when they search your HD

Drifter
06-12-2008, 02:41 AM
thats very true .
I am giving him the bennifit of doubt becouse he was a good bro of mine , and we helped each other out a fair bit and i dont see it in his charictor to be like that

Mr Ontario
06-12-2008, 09:22 AM
Here is the scary part...

The investigation is ongoing, but officials say so far they’ve traced sales to between 200 and 300 customers, primarily in Canada, but also in the United States. They’re still trying to determine if any customers were buying in larger quantities for resale. [...]
“We’re still working with other police agencies and our partners trying to track down who they were going to and the extent of it,” Mr. MacDonald said.

macka
06-12-2008, 09:38 AM
Here is the scary part...

The investigation is ongoing, but officials say so far they’ve traced sales to between 200 and 300 customers, primarily in Canada, but also in the United States. They’re still trying to determine if any customers were buying in larger quantities for resale. [...]
“We’re still working with other police agencies and our partners trying to track down who they were going to and the extent of it,” Mr. MacDonald said.


Scary, considering that he talked to a lot of people, and those people talked to people. The cops are going to run down everybody that ever talked to him isn't likely, but they will run down his customer list and see if they can't find out who bought what. If you were using his lab and were running a long cycle, odds are they will show up at your door. Cops don't know squat about a cycle and base everything off of a HRT dose, which is nothing compared to a cycle. They also inflate the value because the general public is ignorant and awed by these "huge" value busts. Have to love the propaganda they spew.

cedric
06-12-2008, 10:29 AM
On the child porn issue. Don't get me wrong, I think having child porn would be despicable. But, would it be possible if he's just surfing the web, banners or even whatever sites, having someone under 18 on it. Shit gets stored in his cache, and is considered 'child porn'?

xxSCHiSMxx
06-12-2008, 11:35 AM
the kiddy porn is bs. way too easy to click wrong linkage, get redirected to that crap, whatever. just trying to make him look like some kinda low life.

The investigation is ongoing, but officials say so far they’ve traced sales to between 200 and 300 customers, primarily in Canada, but also in the United States. They’re still trying to determine if any customers were buying in larger quantities for resale. [...]
“We’re still working with other police agencies and our partners trying to track down who they were going to and the extent of it,” Mr. MacDonald said.
Yeah, kinda scary.

waderow
06-12-2008, 11:39 AM
child porn could be a self picture in a mirror of a naked 17yo. or of course the disgusting exploitation of children.
Its a pretty broad range, and quite frankly any one who surfs a fair bit of porn has at one time had an underage looking girl on their screen.
Children, not so likely. If you have actual kiddy porn.....children....you likely sought it out, for I am sure you don't just stumble across that shit.

cedric
06-12-2008, 11:41 AM
If you have actual kiddy porn.....children....you likely sought it out,

"and should die"

you forgot that part.

thanks for clarifying too on that part. it's what i thought.

St
06-12-2008, 02:54 PM
Hope the guy get a very light sentence on importing,and hope the child porn is BS on the cops part.

IronRobi
06-12-2008, 03:06 PM
I can't see it being BS on the child porn. If so then every other bust that's happened would have child porn attached to it too. What some people portray to the public, and what they do behind closed doors can be 2 different things.

I think the purpose of tracking down his customers would be to find those who were buying in bulk enough to be resellers. This bust happened long enough ago, I think if they were knocking on anybody's door we would have heard about it by now.

Gib
06-12-2008, 03:26 PM
Id also say that the CP thing was a guy downloading a file labeled something like "hot chick sucks cock", then opens it and realises it's Young chick sucks cock (or whatever).

waderow
06-12-2008, 04:11 PM
90% of porn these days is called "teen sex" or "tight teens" or "teen gets ****ed hard by teacher" etc etc etc. things are ****ed

Born2Juice4Ever
06-12-2008, 05:09 PM
There has been strong indication from agencies here in Canada that denote the fact that he was first and above all busted for unrelated issues NOT GEAR....but that gear was secondary.

I really hope his time in and prosecuting process is not painful...jail is ugly..a minute is too long IMO


This is reeeeeeeally old news anyhow...not too sure why he has been brought up again.

B2J

Sean
06-12-2008, 05:45 PM
This is reeeeeeeally old news anyhow...not too sure why he has been brought up again.

This just got posted 4 days ago. Just keeping everyone informed. Especially when this caught my eye:


The investigation is ONGOING, but officials say so far they’ve traced sales to between 200 and 300 customers, primarily in Canada, but also in the United States. They’re still trying to determine if any customers were buying in larger quantities for resale.

nisser
06-12-2008, 11:57 PM
They said that when they caught him initially and I or no one I know has had anyone come to their door. It's prolly publicity bullshit.

Rhinobolt10
07-12-2008, 03:08 AM
Half of what they're saying is crap, he was busted for unrelated stuff, then they go and say he was busted cause of a 15 month investigation...

With the kiddy porn, we'll find out in February what the deal was. I'm saying it's crap. Dude wa a good guy.

natenator
07-12-2008, 04:01 PM
Doubt it. How many people do you know that have had 5-0 show up at their door strictly on a gear-related inquiry?
And, ig they show up. Big whoop. Unless you got more than a person amount kickin aroundf who cares. All they'll force from you is to talk about where you got it. Big deal.

srt8
08-12-2008, 09:25 AM
Half of what they're saying is crap, he was busted for unrelated stuff, then they go and say he was busted cause of a 15 month investigation...

With the kiddy porn, we'll find out in February what the deal was. I'm saying it's crap. Dude wa a good guy.

Care to fill us in on the unrelated stuff?

IronRobi
08-12-2008, 05:15 PM
And, ig they show up. Big whoop. Unless you got more than a person amount kickin aroundf who cares. All they'll force from you is to talk about where you got it. Big deal.

Wow, i'd hate to deal with you! If it's no big deal giving up where you got it.... Just remember, you found it. Simple as that.

natenator
08-12-2008, 05:25 PM
Wow, i'd hate to deal with you! If it's no big deal giving up where you got it.... Just remember, you found it. Simple as that.
I said they'd force you to talk about where you got it. If you only have a personal amount on you then it IS no big deal and there's nothing to talk about ;)