Geneza Pharmaceuticals??

[cache49]

Hey all, new member here. Im on several other large boards that dont permit any talk of UGL or specific UG products etc. So hello everyone....:beer. I have read a few threads here about Naps new lineup. Geneza Pharmaceuticals. Im just about eight weeks in on his Test Cyp/ Deca with a four week Dbol kicker. To be honest, im not entirely sold here yet, but i will give the test a few more weeks before making any conclusions. Question, has anyone run this line yet, i know its new, but thought you may have some feedback....cheers...cache...

[trainharder]

Hey all, new member here. Im on several other large boards that dont permit any talk of UGL or specific UG products etc. So hello everyone....:beer. I have read a few threads here about Naps new lineup. Geneza Pharmaceuticals. Im just about eight weeks in on his Test Cyp/ Deca with a four week Dbol kicker. To be honest, im not entirely sold here yet, but i will give the test a few more weeks before making any conclusions. Question, has anyone run this line yet, i know its new, but thought you may have some feedback....cheers...cache...

I'm about to run the GP dbol with some Iranian Test E.

How did you find the Dbol? What dosage did you use?

[cache49]

I ran Dbol at 50mg ed for four weeks, Test Cyp 750mg wk, deca 600mg wk...im just eight weeks in now....im not too impressed yet but ill be patient and give it a few more weeks. There has been allot of negative talk lately about the guy who runs this lab and his involvment with Axio and so on....well see how ot pans out i guess. Too bad because he used to be top notch....

[gustavo77]

I ran Dbol at 50mg ed for four weeks, Test Cyp 750mg wk, deca 600mg wk...im just eight weeks in now....im not too impressed yet but ill be patient and give it a few more weeks. There has been allot of negative talk lately about the guy who runs this lab and his involvment with Axio and so on....well see how ot pans out i guess. Too bad because he used to be top notch....

Ya apparently he made all the bunk axio gear, stole all the good raws and production equipment from Axio and then started a new lab... no proof in any of it though, just he said she said.

[cache49]

Ya apparently he made all the bunk axio gear, stole all the good raws and production equipment from Axio and then started a new lab... no proof in any of it though, just he said she said.

Ya, too bad....why does everyone always get greedy in the end and f**k up a good thing. Slow and steady wins the race...thats now two of my sources gone tits up. Can no longer be trusted IMO. Shame...id guess this gear to be underdosed, there's something in it but not what it should be....:(

[Big D]

thanks for the info man, the lab did look good, just goes to show sometimes looks aint everything.

[champcar99]

I ran Dbol at 50mg ed for four weeks, Test Cyp 750mg wk, deca 600mg wk...im just eight weeks in now....im not too impressed yet but ill be patient and give it a few more weeks. There has been allot of negative talk lately about the guy who runs this lab and his involvment with Axio and so on....well see how ot pans out i guess. Too bad because he used to be top notch....

50 mg of dbol everyday for 4 weeks that alone you should feel that within that much time EASY...I can feel dbol within a week...

[St]

Sad to here that bro,that your not making the gain you should be.

[champcar99]

Sad to here that bro,that your not making the gain you should be.

and spending all that cash for nothing,,,nothing worse than injecting shit you have doubts about....not a good feeling!!

[Big D]

and spending all that cash for nothing,,,nothing worse than injecting shit you have doubts about....not a good feeling!!

yep you got that right not a good feeling.

[cache49]

and spending all that cash for nothing,,,nothing worse than injecting shit you have doubts about....not a good feeling!!

Ya no doubt, the dbol was weak. I did see some gains but not what i should have. Im off to the doc this afternoon to get bloodwork done...(as if i dont know the awnser already)...just to be conclusive. I will shut down, run a short PCT to be safe and swich gear. Aside from the money, what really pisses me off is that no one can give me back my time...i want back my eight weeks of winter bulker...haha. Thanx guys...

[Big D]

it happens to everyone man, live and learn i guess

[Redz]

I am using the gp winny at 100mg/day and it is hardening me up nicely.

[St]

and spending all that cash for nothing,,,nothing worse than injecting shit you have doubts about....not a good feeling!!

Yep 100%..

[Mr Ontario]

Sound like you got legit stuff then :)


I am using the gp winny at 100mg/day and it is hardening me up nicely.

[Dr.Dose]

Hey all, new member here. Im on several other large boards that dont permit any talk of UGL or specific UG products etc. So hello everyone....:beer. I have read a few threads here about Naps new lineup. Geneza Pharmaceuticals. Im just about eight weeks in on his Test Cyp/ Deca with a four week Dbol kicker. To be honest, im not entirely sold here yet, but i will give the test a few more weeks before making any conclusions. Question, has anyone run this line yet, i know its new, but thought you may have some feedback....cheers...cache...

SO what other boards are you on bro??? As I have never seen you around. Kind of weird that on your first post you would make such an accusation when you are entirely a newbie here. I do know some people running the GP dbol and am using it myself now with great results! So how would that work then? If you look around other boards the lab is getting great feedback as well, so something is up here with your post I guess :-). Maybe you would be an UG lab that is posting, to trash another lab here??? It sure looks like this. But do not worry, I am told that samples from an independent guy that bought GP were taken to BOS to be tested, so we will get the real independent results soon.

You guys that are new to the boards do not fall to quickly for this type of thread, it is just the BS that happens on every board as there is always people or another lab trying to out do another one by talking trash. But rookie mistake trying to do it on the first post. Somebody got to anxious. lol

[nisser]

I am using the gp winny at 100mg/day and it is hardening me up nicely.


It better at that dose!!

[Mr Ontario]

Ya..I guess his FIRST post is kind of weird. He says he was reading a few threads on here about Geneza..but there is only been one.. and his is the second. As for other LARGE boards,,,,must large boards I have been on allow lab talk...so I would like to know as well what others boards you are on so I can check it out myself...as I have yet to see any bashing of this lab yet.

[Dr.Dose]

Ok, so I did some looking around as am interested in this here as I am using this dbol as we speak here. So "cache49", is infact of one other board that I have found him on and he talks about his cycle as well here:

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=367305

Here are the post that he made explaining his cycle and diet:

" Hey all...some depressing news on my end. Im just now eight weeks into my winter bulker and its no good. Currently..1-4 Dbol 50 mg ed, 1-14 Test Cyp 750mg ew, 1-12 Deca 600 mg wk. I gained a little right at the start...but now my wieght has held steady for the last three weeks. Nothing substabtial...im looking better IMO but no significant gains. Im going to my doc this afternoon to run blood work, (as if i dont know allready) Im thinking of shutting down, running a short PCT to be safe and starting fresh with different gear. Opinions?
5'6, 188lbs, 12 BF"

"I hear ya on that one....some times my appetite is low and i really have to force in the food. I currently eat 4-5 clean meals a day, that isnt including pre or post workout nutrition. A quick summary would be bfst: 8 egg whites, two whole eggs, cup oatmeal or two slices whole wheat toast, bananna, cup OJ, one scoop whey w/skim. Meals 2,3 and 4 Lean meat, either chicked brst, bison or steak w/ cup brn rice, cup green veg usually asparagus (sp?) Before bed, two scoops whey w/ skim and cup Cottage cheese. Scoop peanut butter..."

Ok, so I see your problem. You are saying that you are trying to bulk with this cycle and then you post your diet and you ae basically dieting here. But you did say - "I gained a little right at the start...but now my wieght has held steady for the last three weeks. Nothing substabtial...im looking better IMO but no significant gains". So just because you are not gaining on the scale any more does not mean that the stuff is not working. As you do say, you are looking better (so I guess leaner, etc... as looking from your diet would happen). If you are going to bulk, then you need a bit more calories then that or else cal deficient = no new muscle growth. Up your cals and you will grow here, and most likely stay lean still. Throw in another meal as 4-5 meals expecially when including "pre or post workout nutrition" so I am guessing 2 shakes does not give you jack for cals with 2-3 meals left! This is your problem here, not the gear. Try it and you will see for yourself, your weight will start to go up!

Remember, the gear is not magic here, so do not expect to just gain without doing the other 3 most important things as well properly - you also need to eat, sleep and train.

[cache49]

Yes im a member of another board, several, all whom dont permit talk of UGL's or products. I dont see what is so strange about this post? I want conclusive feedback from from anyone who has run the gear...wow, strange and shady I guess. My intensions were not hidden in any way. As for you Mr.dose, great, you found my name on another board...as i said before...and yeas I talked about it there as well. And that means what exactly....this is off topic. Im sorry if it offended any of you. Id be more than happy to converse vis PM's with anyone who has any viable information. Mr. Ontario, you posted about this guys new line. What do you know?? Its my first post here, yes, sorry if you found it strange...wasnt my intention at all. Im not a newb fishing for a source here, just some feedback...thanx

[cache49]

As for your previous post Mr.Dose, my dialy caloric intake and 4-5 meals was not including pre or post wo nutrition. Sorry if i was unclear...

[Dr.Dose]

Yes im a member of another board, several, all whom dont permit talk of UGL's or products. I dont see what is so strange about this post? I want conclusive feedback from from anyone who has run the gear...wow, strange and shady I guess. My intensions were not hidden in any way. As for you Mr.dose, great, you found my name on another board...as i said before...and yeas I talked about it there as well. And that means what exactly....this is off topic. Im sorry if it offended any of you. Id be more than happy to converse vis PM's with anyone who has any viable information. Mr. Ontario, you posted about this guys new line. What do you know?? Its my first post here, yes, sorry if you found it strange...wasnt my intention at all. Im not a newb fishing for a source here, just some feedback...thanx

As a first post I thought that you were trashing a lab, and there is so much politics going around on the boards that on your first post that is what jumped into my mind first. Happens all the time this stuff on the boards. But ok, I answered your question there as well in my second post. You are basically trying to bulk on a dieting diet! You do admit that you are looking better and have made gains in the beginning so the stuff is working. BUT no increase in food intake means no new muscle can be supported so only thing that will happen is you can get leaner, exactly what is happening, etc... Up your cals and I am sure you will grow very easily. 2 Meals and 2 shakes a day does not cut it here!

[Dr.Dose]

As for your previous post Mr.Dose, my dialy caloric intake and 4-5 meals was not including pre or post wo nutrition. Sorry if i was unclear...

What is your exact diet like then? Meal by meal, I mean per day.

[cache49]

I eat 4-5 clean meals a day, PLUS pre and pwo shakes and carbs etc etc. Not, two meals , that would be a very obvious calorie deficit. I understand the mechanism here well. Ive ate similar clean bul;king diets before and gained properly. I didnt mean to trash a lab, wasnt my intention....sorry. Just skeptical tahts all
morning 8 egg whites 2 whole eggs, cup oatmeal or two slices whole weat toast, one scoop whey w/skim, glass oj and a bananna.
Meals 2,3 and 4. Lean protien, turkey, bison or beef with cup rice and two cups green veg.
Before bed two scoops whey w/skim, cup cottage cheese and a tbsp of peanut butter.
Pre workout. scoop whey and an apple or other fruit,
post wo. two scoops whey 60grms maltodextrin/dextrose.

Sorry i cant go im more detail, im being paged for dinner....cheers

[physique]

his diet doesnt look that bad actually. even on a dieting diet, 50mgs of dbol, one should feel it. strength wise and some water bloat. i dont care if u eat like a girl.

not every lab/ products will work for everyone!!!! but as usual, the minute someone says something negative towards a lab, people always jump and throw accusations back at the original poster. which to me isnt right.
yes some times there is a hidden agenda, but lately the majority of the time, its a legit question.

this post isnt a stab at dr. dose or anyone else in this thread. Its more a post of what i see lately going on on the board.

[nisser]

Well it really depends....

"Meals 2,3 and 4. Lean protien, turkey, bison or beef with cup rice and two cups green veg." could be as little as 500 calories per meal.

[Dr.Dose]

his diet doesnt look that bad actually. even on a dieting diet, 50mgs of dbol, one should feel it. strength wise and some water bloat. i dont care if u eat like a girl.

not every lab/ products will work for everyone!!!! but as usual, the minute someone says something negative towards a lab, people always jump and throw accusations back at the original poster. which to me isnt right.
yes some times there is a hidden agenda, but lately the majority of the time, its a legit question.

this post isnt a stab at dr. dose or anyone else in this thread. Its more a post of what i see lately going on on the board.

Well when you see someone come on and the first thing they put up is something negative for their first post of a lab then kind of makes you wonder about their credibility and hidden agenda. There is a lot of BS happening, and a lot of labs fighting on these board these days, nothing new and will only get worse in my opinion as more labs always popping up and fighting for market share, etc...

He did say that he was gaining off the start and then stopped, after he was just looking better he said but no gains. So to me it sounds like the dbol was working through the original weeks 1-4. I am using the dbol right now and have no issues, so is my training partner as well and all that he is using is the dbol here for some extra edge and is gaining as well in his case. But as for the diet, for me I need a lot of food to gain. My metabolisim is very quick here, so for me to stay lean even at about a weight of 230lbs I need to eat the following for example:

Meal 1:
70 grams whey
1 cup oatmeal

Meal 2: After workout
150 grams rice cakes
70 grams whey

Meal 3, 4, 5:
500 grams potatoes
200 grams chicken

Meal 6:
2 cans tuna
4 large rice cakes

If I start to eat less then this then I will drop weight very quickly. But I know a certain pro that can eat half of this and still grow like crazy! I think that it has to do a lot with his diet as I cab bet his metabolisim is very very quick as well, as I am pretty sure if he throws in an extra meal he will start to gain again.

As for the cycle, he is using 1-4 Dbol 50 mg ed, 1-14 Test Cyp 750mg ew, 1-12 Deca 600 mg wk. So still on test and deca here. At these dosages, there is no way in hell that he will not gain anything. Does not matter the lab, test is still test and deca is still deca. I think the issue is more with how he is eating and that is why he stopped gaining and is now just getting leaner. I say throw in an extra meal and I can guarantee he will start to gain again here.

[Born2Juice4Ever]

Everyone is entitled to an opinion or entitled to give a review on any particular product.
I agree that a big part of the process is: DELIVERY.


I should give this lab a try myself to gage on my own. Have your people contact my people :D and we will take it from there.


B2j

[gustavo77]

I have no doubt that Geneza products are potent. I mean why would ANY UG debut with bunk or under dosed products?? Only time will tell if Geneza remains quality though. We all know what happened with BD, Axio etc. Axio is still trying to get their name straight after those bad batches.

For me, i will continue to keep my money in Canada. Lots of good people here that deserve our support.

[Born2Juice4Ever]

I have no doubt that Geneza products are potent. I mean why would ANY UG debut with bunk or under dosed products?? Only time will tell if Geneza remains quality though. We all know what happened with BD, Axio etc. Axio is still trying to get their name straight after those bad batches.

For me, i will continue to keep my money in Canada. Lots of good people here that deserve our support.

Very good post here.
As I have said in the past, stay within the border and avoid complications.

Axio was a lab that came up fairly fast, lasted 3 seconds and now it's over.
There are two well kept guys that I know of, those have been consistent, professionals, and do not want to be famous, and have sites with tracking numbers or batch verification or shit like that---that is un****ing heard of>

A true UG stays off of the radar as much as they can...:)

B2J

[gustavo77]

Axio was a lab that came up fairly fast, lasted 3 seconds and now it's over.


It may not be over for Axio just yet. They are trying to get innovative with their tabs. Their new d-bol and winny have a special coating on them to avoid stomach digestion and allow them to pass to the intestine where the drug is apparently absorbed more efficiently. It is supposed to make the oral more potent. Their new batch of oils and white top Syntrop they are making are getting decent reviews also.

[Redz]

The new axio orals and syntrop worked well for me. I judge based on results and have never had 1 questionable product from axio.

[hyperlite32]

I have no doubt that Geneza products are potent. I mean why would ANY UG debut with bunk or under dosed products?? Only time will tell if Geneza remains quality though. We all know what happened with BD, Axio etc. Axio is still trying to get their name straight after those bad batches.

For me, i will continue to keep my money in Canada. Lots of good people here that deserve our support.


AMEN to that...:flagC

[kloan]

Any updates on these guys? 'Bout to pull the trigger on an order...

[trainharder]

Any updates on these guys? 'Bout to pull the trigger on an order...

Using the dbol and it's legit.

Getting crazy lower back pumps and my calves were burning up from walking to work this morning...

[Redz]

They are good to go, I will try their injectables in the future for sure.

[grifter]

So GP is gtg? I hope so. I just had a order dropped off 20 mins ago. I asked for all axio products but the orals (Nolva and T-bol) were geneza.

[Mr Ontario]

Time to get a new supplier if they facked up your order.


So GP is gtg? I hope so. I just had a order dropped off 20 mins ago. I asked for all axio products but the orals (Nolva and T-bol) were geneza.

[grifter]

Well technically the order wasnt correct, but I'm open to trying new labs. As long as the nolva is properly dosed thats all I care about right now for a few months.
Also received some pharma HCG PPC or PCP 10000iu made right here (GTA). Anyone use this brand before?
Sorry for hijacking.

[juced_porkchop]

GENEZAIS VERY GOOD!! the oil is thin as water. shotz are smooth results are there.
good stuff!

using the deca with omnas right now and will be using the testcyp or E "got both" and deca for spring/summer hrt to go with my anavar "anavar for 12wks then just test"

[trainharder]

Dbol is G2G.

[kloan]

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[#8]

good feedback on the GP dbol's. im about to try some myself. word.

[Danger]

Im on my 3rd week of GP Dbol and its deffinatly gtg, up 14lbs so far and im putting up alot more weight than usual.

[Mrdestruction]

Yea i used some stuff by axio a while back in 2007, they were good then, then i ran into bad batches and tried not to use them again. Axio nolva screwd the **** out of me, i got more gyno from that LOL. so i switch to GP and it is better now... So i am sure GP is gtg.

[Mrdestruction]

Hey Grifter, what part of GTA you from bro, i am also from there. Looking for training partner if you are free...

[nisser]

Any feedback on their test injectables?

[Houstonbc]

Any feedback on their test injectables?


been hearing mixed feedback on this line of products some love it some say its garbage.....i would stick with what you know is good

[Mr Ontario]

and what would that be ;)


been hearing mixed feedback on this line of products some love it some say its garbage.....i would stick with what you know is good

[nisser]

been hearing mixed feedback on this line of products some love it some say its garbage.....i would stick with what you know is good

there's also been very mixed feedback about things I know is good

[St]

Ya i would like more feedback as well,anyone on this site try it that loves it more than sa haha.

[juced_porkchop]

I liked there product. iv used so far these last 2 or so yrs:
testE
TestCYP
Deca
trenE (may be a lil under dosed or i just didnt get much sides)
TrenA
T3
tbol

alll i liked.

currently on testE/TrenE cycle
wk1-14 500mg testE ew
wk1-12 400mg TrenE ew
*on wk 8-9*

I LOVE TRENE lol

[JaSIM3]

Ya i would like more feedback as well,anyone on this site try it that loves it more than sa haha.

I am on there tbol and anavar BEST GAINS AND STRENGTH EVER. I gained 15 pounds of lean muscle

[G.I.JOE]

I tried there test e, tren e and winstrol. I liked them all but found the tren was a lil weak.