My first cycle...

[jmaker]

After much research I've decided on running Sust 250mg/Every 3 days. I've read numerous times that your blood levels are much more stable running it this way as opposed to once a week at 500mg. I'm also gonna run Dbol 40mg/day to jump start my cycle for the first 4 weeks. For my PCT I will be using Clomid and HCG. I also have Letro on hand if needed. I will take my first dose of Clomid 2 - 3 weeks (About 20 days) after my last Sust inject. HCG I will run from week 6 of my cycle right up till I begin the Clomid. This should be effective at avoiding a crash. Since this is my first go around, however, I really don't know how my body will react to this. I guess thats always the unknown variable, each person being somewhat different from the next guy. Anyways, I would appreciate any feedback/tweaks/suggestions..

[7 Scape O'Tech]

yep looks good, i prefer nolva to clomid but both will do. Make sure you split up the dbol throughout the day. I'd like to see you add some deca or eq in, but still good for a first cycle. :)

[gustavo77]

Cycle looks good...how long are you running the sust for? What dosage of d-bol are you using?

[jmaker]

Dbol will be 20mg caps. So I will take 1 in the AM and one in the PM = 40mg/daily. The Sust I will run for 10 weeks. Was going to go for 12 but 10 should be more then enough for my first run.

[gustavo77]

Dbol will be 20mg caps. So I will take 1 in the AM and one in the PM = 40mg/daily. The Sust I will run for 10 weeks. Was going to go for 12 but 10 should be more then enough for my first run.

Looks good bro. The only thing i would suggest is for you to consider running the sust eod istead of e3d. I am currently running Omna (same as sust only way cheaper) eod and it is one of best cycles that i have ever ran. Just run 0.5ml/cc eod. Make sure you have some nolva or better yet at real A.I. (aromasin, arimidex or letro) on hand to control bloat and other estrogen related sides from the d-bol and test.

[jmaker]

Thanks for the feedback. Yeah I already have the Letro on hand, I'll only use it if I start seeing bitch tits or lots of bloating. Every other day for the Sust?? You really think for my first cycle e3d wouldn't be enough? Also, I've read alot of posts where people suggest sticking with enanthate instead of the sust. How do you weigh in on this? My goal is to put on alot of mass. Obviously I'd like to keep a good portion of it.

[gustavo77]

Thanks for the feedback. Yeah I already have the Letro on hand, I'll only use it if I start seeing bitch tits or lots of bloating. Every other day for the Sust?? You really think for my first cycle e3d wouldn't be enough? Also, I've read alot of posts where people suggest sticking with enanthate instead of the sust. How do you weigh in on this? My goal is to put on alot of mass. Obviously I'd like to keep a good portion of it.

Sust is best ran eod whether it is your first or tenth cycle. Sust contains test prop and needs to be injected at least eod to keep blood levels stable. The more stable the blood levels of the hormone are in your body, the less sides you will experience. Test E is better for a first cycle as it only needs to be injected twice per week. Keeping your gains will depend on your pct, diet and training when you come off more than anything else.

[Bowlcut]

jmaker I am running the same dose of dbol and I space the dose 3 hours in between. You might expect some heartburn and sleep issues, but I have had neither. If you run letro with the dbol you will not put on as much water weight, but I find the strength effects lower with an AI. (I am using Aromasin).

You will like the dbol though!

[pcruiser73]

I think your cycle sounds good. I would recommed taking the AI right off the bat and dont let the sides even start. I am currently 4 weeks into this cycle:
wk 1-10 700mg/wk Andropen(sust) shot twice a week(it works for me)
wk 2-7 40 mg/day D-bol 20am 20 pm
wk 2-7 50 mg/day Anadrol 25am 25pm
wk 1-11 20mg/day Aromasin
wk 1-11 50mg/day Proviron

Since I am on TRT there is no PCT.

So far this is one of the best cycles I have ever done as far as sides and gains are concerned.

I only shoot the Sustanon twice a week but this may not be best for you. I have tried it every way possible ed, eod, e3d, e7d and have decided on twice a week. I would in your case however for your first cycle shoot it eod to be safe then you can experiment on future cycles.
Have fun with it and expect to grow big time.

[jmaker]

Thanks again I'll take all the feedback I can get. I am also considering adding some EQ to my cycle. It was suggested so I have been digging into this a bit. The consensus is EQ would give me some nice lean slow growing gains to this cycle. Obviously I'm sure some of you would suggest keeping it to the Dbol and Test but I really wanna pack on alot of muscle. Everyone I talk to says your first cycle is your best cycle so do it right. I'm gonna be considering this possibility as June 1st (Start date) is getting close. Can't wait!

[pcruiser73]

Keep it simple for your first cycle. Let your cycles grow as you do. Test and D-bol will be plenty. Dont worry if you eat and train right you will not believe how much you will grow. My first cycle was 30mg d-bol/day taken all at once in the morning for 2 months. I gained 30 lbs and kept about 20 when all was over. There was no AIs or PCT back then either.