How do YOU eat while on cycle??

[WORLD]

Alright, where do I start...

How exactly do you guys eat while on cycle? Do you eat just above maintenance, or do you go on a hard bulk? Do you eat just a sufficient number of calories?

The reason I'm asking this is because I want to try different methods of eating while on cycle. I've been on one cycle of test and I ate just above my maintenance calories, leaving me with moderate weight gains. I looked great though.

Will eating just above my maintenance calories give me leaner gains? Or will it hinder my gains if I'm not eating quite enough. Do the guys that up their calories real high notice they gain more weight, but don't look as good? What's the trade off? What works best for you?

How about your eating while your recovering? Do you bulk hard to keep some weight and strength after stopping the cycle?

Do you track your calories while on? While off?

A lot of questions, I know. If you could, please just tell me your eating habits, your reasoning as to why you eat the way you do, and suggestions.

Just to clarify, I do know how to eat. I've learned my body well enough to understand how many calories I have to comsume to gain or lose weight. I just would like to get a better understanding of what my body demands after adding AAS to the equation.

Thanks fellas

[tiramisu]

.... this is just what I've found so far and it's an experimental size of n=1 and I'm making plenty of mistakes.

I try to eat lots of whole good healthy food and plenty of meat, fish and eggs and veg, potatoes and rice. I've been trying to use the gomad (gallon of milk a day) approach. ly I've only gotten as high a 3 litres so far. I add or subtract a litre as activity warrants.

I started with a 500 calorie per day surplus based on my fitday log.
I have been using a linear workout routines as I'm still a novice.
Starting Strength - twice
and just started stronglifts 5x5
( the added volume seems to be helping and dropping power cleans is helping my tendonitos)

As the linear program progresses my ability to recover is very much limited by my calories. So every time I find myself slow to recover I add another 500 calories.

august First round ( about 8 weeks) 214 lbs ( ~20%bf)
I started around 3200 and got up to about 5k before more food didn't help my recovery and I simply ran out of steam on the program.

Second round ( about 8 weeks again) - started 600 mg of test e
I kept my calories high for about 6 weeks and then pulled a tendon in my arm.
Took a 2 week break and dropped the volume of eating during this time.

current --- Gained about 25 pounds. 239lbs ( ~20%bf)

Round 3 ( 8 weeks ) - 5x5
To Be Determined -
Day 3
I'm feeling strong and the extra volume is really making the muscle feel the exercise but
I'm having a real mental problem keeping my calories high.

At this point I'm counting the days till this ones done as I'll be coming off cycle and I'm looking forward to adding some cardio and bringing the calories down so I can get my bodyfat down into the teens.

[JonnyO]

Adding AAS doesnt "demand" anything. You want to gain some real size and actually look like your on a cycle you have to eat, eat and eat. Eat every 2.5-3 hours and finish all your foods, not missing meals. Its not easy eating all your food when your not hungry but the benefits down the road pay off. Train like an animal and eat like an animal if you want to get big. If your happy getting a little bit of size and strength like about 90% of the guys out there do just eat half assed and train chest and arms twice a week, you want to stand out you have to go that extra length. It's funny how many guys are on the shit and you'd never know it until they come off, lol.

AAS is the icing on the cake, if you properly plan and execute that plan you wont fail no matter what your goals may be.

Plan, plan, plan then execute. Something I dont see too often these days.

[Sean Summers]

I would eat the same as if I was off AAS
SS

[420]

I eat when Im hungry. I only start eating different when its time to cut.

[Namelessone]

I eat about every 4 hours but I'm normally hungry every 4 hours so it works out. I don't eat like a monster so I don't look like a monster but for me, thats ok...

Do what you want man, as long as your impressing yourself no one else matters...

[L3]

It's funny how many guys are on the shit and you'd never know it until they come off, lol.


:mock

[WORLD]

I expected answers similar to the ones given.

JonnyO's attitude is the kind that I've believed right from the start. If you want to be big you need to train balls to wall and eat big. Simple as that.

But how can you say AAS won't demand more from you? If you are gaining weight, both lean and not, then your body should require a higher number of calories to sustain the new gains (this is what I assume).

[WORLD]

I expected answers similar to the ones given.

JonnyO's attitude is the kind that I've believed right from the start. If you want to be big you need to train balls to wall and eat big. Simple as that.

But how can you say AAS won't demand more from you? If you are gaining weight, both lean and not, then your body should require a higher number of calories to sustain the new gains (this is what I assume).

[waderow]

Adding AAS doesnt "demand" anything. You want to gain some real size and actually look like your on a cycle you have to eat, eat and eat. Eat every 2.5-3 hours and finish all your foods, not missing meals. Its not easy eating all your food when your not hungry but the benefits down the road pay off. Train like an animal and eat like an animal if you want to get big. If your happy getting a little bit of size and strength like about 90% of the guys out there do just eat half assed and train chest and arms twice a week, you want to stand out you have to go that extra length. It's funny how many guys are on the shit and you'd never know it until they come off, lol.

AAS is the icing on the cake, if you properly plan and execute that plan you wont fail no matter what your goals may be.

Plan, plan, plan then execute. Something I dont see too often these days.


agreed

[JonnyO]

But how can you say AAS won't demand more from you? If you are gaining weight, both lean and not, then your body should require a higher number of calories to sustain the new gains (this is what I assume).

You create the demand for it, the AAS wont do that. The way I see it is just by training properly your body will demand more in terms of recovery, etc. AAS will help you train harder and recover faster sure, but without you putting in the effort its not going to create that demand. Hope I explained that as I thought it.

[WORLD]

You create the demand for it, the AAS wont do that. The way I see it is just by training properly your body will demand more in terms of recovery, etc. AAS will help you train harder and recover faster sure, but without you putting in the effort its not going to create that demand. Hope I explained that as I thought it.

Thanks for your input.

It completely makes sense. What you said applies to the body with or without any AAS use. If we follow the simple idea of thermodynamics we can understand why the body increasingly needs more food to sustain growth.

I only started this thread to see if anyone had any other unusual methods of eating while on cycle, but it seems that the basics always apply and stay true.

Keep in mind I still have much to learn about AAS and so I like to ask everything I'm curious about.

[tex]

i was eating between 6000-8000 calories per day last cycle........and that was pretty clean........i gained 20+lbs and dropped 2% bf.......off cycle I tend to eat around 4000-5000 per day.....thats my mainenence level.....any less and i start dropping weight

[deleteduser0001]

I am not sure how you cannot change your eating habits, with the increased protein synthesis, you really need to eat a lot more protein, right?

[tex]

more protein and id say lots of good carbs in there as well.

[Houstonbc]

DO NOT forget healthy fats too!