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ZeOne
17-11-2008, 02:07 AM
All right guys,

Going on PCT next Friday.

What do you guys think about adding HGH to PCT?

I have around 3 month supply at 10units a day, so quantity is not an issue.

Should I start it only on my next cycle? Or is it a good idea to start HGH with the PCT?




-Z-

Kiem
17-11-2008, 03:29 AM
Heard it helps with recovery and to keep what you have gained. But maybe do less in PCT, about 3-4iu's a day and save the rest for another cycle.

Big D
17-11-2008, 08:28 AM
you might benefit more if you do it 10 units a day while on cycle ???

theboss
17-11-2008, 10:30 AM
you might benefit more if you do it 10 units a day while on cycle ???

i dont know much about HGH..but i thought you had to run it for quite a while to get benfits from it...like 3 cycles or something.....will adding 3iu a day while on AAS do much ?

Born2Juice4Ever
17-11-2008, 10:37 AM
GH is best ran long distance IMO.

I would maximize its potential while running in corporation with a good cycle.

Save the stuff for later.

NOW LongR3 IGF during PCT, is another story. A good choice IMO


B2J

muscleshark
17-11-2008, 07:54 PM
All right guys,

Going on PCT next Friday.

What do you guys think about adding HGH to PCT?

I have around 3 month supply at 10units a day, so quantity is not an issue.

Should I start it only on my next cycle? Or is it a good idea to start HGH with the PCT?




-Z-

I would deffinatly run it for pct. Thats what Ill be doing for my upcoming pct, along with the regular anccilliries, and not @10 units a day more like 5 to 6. I heard you get the best possible recovery and absolutly no loss in gains asides from the water bleeding out. Brings your nuts back to Bull balls and libido is just as good as you were in grade 9!!! Thats what Ive been told awhile back when this same topic was brought up. I wish I could remember the dude who recommended this protocol, cause It seemed brilliant. It was on CJM's site about a year back.

ZeOne
17-11-2008, 09:08 PM
I would deffinatly run it for pct. Thats what Ill be doing for my upcoming pct, along with the regular anccilliries, and not @10 units a day more like 5 to 6. I heard you get the best possible recovery and absolutly no loss in gains asides from the water bleeding out. Brings your nuts back to Bull balls and libido is just as good as you were in grade 9!!! Thats what Ive been told awhile back when this same topic was brought up. I wish I could remember the dude who recommended this protocol, cause It seemed brilliant. It was on CJM's site about a year back.

I might be doing 2UI ED, or 4UIs EOD

Could you find that post with the recommended protocol?

gustavo77
17-11-2008, 09:53 PM
GH is definitely beneficial during PCT. Start with 2iu for a few weeks then increase it 1iu every two weeks till you reach 4-5iu per day. Depending on what kind of GH you have 3-5iu will be a very good dose. Once you get back on cycle, you can experiment with other blasting protocols. I usually like to do 8-10iu 4-5 days per week (training days only) on cycle with slin PWO and then cruise at 3-5iu per day ED off cycle or while cutting.

big_luse
18-11-2008, 01:37 AM
10 a day is more than enough - as Gustavo said slowly increase the dosage and see how you tolerate it. Some people get carpal tunnel at low dosages and some people have no issues at all. It would be better to run 5iu ED for 6 months than 10iu for 3 IMO.

ZeOne
18-11-2008, 01:59 AM
Thanks for the advices all.

grifter
18-11-2008, 12:31 PM
is it better to split dose of gh into 2 shots or leave it as 1. If I was using for PCT or regular cycle, 5-10iu, is there a half life I should worry about, or just get it into me first thing in the morning?

gustavo77
18-11-2008, 04:43 PM
is it better to split dose of gh into 2 shots or leave it as 1. If I was using for PCT or regular cycle, 5-10iu, is there a half life I should worry about, or just get it into me first thing in the morning?

Unless you are taking extremely high doses (over 10iu) i do not see a reason to split the doses throughout the day. Some may disagree but i do not see it providing that much more benefit unless you are a Pro running 15-20iu per day.

Dosing also depends on your goals. For fat loss 3-5iu first thing in the morning for guys 35 and under. Over 35, inject an hour before bed. For mass 6-10iu PWO (with or without slin), on training days is the way to go IMO.

canadianmuscle0803
18-11-2008, 04:56 PM
Unless you are taking extremely high doses (over 10iu) i do not see a reason to split the doses throughout the day. Some may disagree but i do not see it providing that much more benefit unless you are a Pro running 15-20iu per day.

Dosing also depends on your goals. For fat loss 3-5iu first thing in the morning for guys 35 and under. Over 35, inject an hour before bed. For mass 6-10iu PWO (with or without slin), on training days is the way to go IMO.

i find the best protocal to work best for me is about 8-10iu/5 days a week, for mass anyways.. good post btw.

tiramisu
18-11-2008, 05:47 PM
My wallet struggles to understand 10iu daily doses.
3 kits per month. I clearly need a different line of work.

gustavo77
18-11-2008, 05:57 PM
My wallet struggles to understand 10iu daily doses.
3 kits per month. I clearly need a different line of work.

I only did 10iu per day on training days, so 4-5 days per week. And even at that i only blasted like that for 4 weeks. So 2 kits did the trick...all i did was save my pennies and wait for a good deal on the Chinese GH. Cut some corners and i am sure you can afford it if you want to. It's 2008, you don;t have to be rich to run GH.

ZeOne
18-11-2008, 06:43 PM
If I want to take 2UIs ED, the shot should be done first thing in the morning upon awakening?

gustavo77
18-11-2008, 08:02 PM
If I want to take 2UIs ED, the shot should be done first thing in the morning upon awakening?

Yes sir, if you are under 35....and i have heard it is best not to take in any carbs for 1-1.5hrs after taking GH. Something to do with GH lowering insulin sensitivity. Whether this true or not, i have seen conflicting info. I like err on the side of caution though and just have a low carb, whey shake first thing in the morning then my first meal with carbs an hour or so later. Another option is to take a small amount of slin with your GH, this will prevent any insulin sens. or blood sugar issues.

canadianmuscle0803
18-11-2008, 08:16 PM
i personally think 2iu/day is useless.. seriously whats the point? a bit of fat loss? maybe.. save your money and do a real GH cycle for 6 months and you will see results.. dont mean to offend anyone but i found nothing off 2iu/day besides a bit of fat loss which can be obtained without GH.

ZeOne
18-11-2008, 09:10 PM
i personally think 2iu/day is useless.. seriously whats the point? a bit of fat loss? maybe.. save your money and do a real GH cycle for 6 months and you will see results.. dont mean to offend anyone but i found nothing off 2iu/day besides a bit of fat loss which can be obtained without GH.

canadianmuscle, reading through the numerous posts and forums, 2UI/day seems to be the recommended dosage for HGH while on PCT.

I am not looking to bulk-up at this stage, just to start a 6 month HGH cycle and preserve gains earned during the cycle.