cycle for athletic performance?

[natenator]

Soooo some of you may have read my thread about getting tired of the bodybuilding lifestyle. Was getting mentally drained of constantly eating, training for growth or dieting when it came time for competition season.

I decided I'd like to strip back the bodybuilding lifestyle for a while and try something else. Go back to athletics and playing sports again.

So I got two months to get my offseason ass into shape enough to keep up in hockey, basketball and flag football. It'll require a lot of cardio endurance training and an altered style of weight training but I don't with to lose ALL the years I've put into building up the mscle I have just to play sports again so I'm considering the following cycle to help spare some muscle while cutting up and improve my cardio endurance.

All will be run for 16 weeks:

Prop: 75mg EOD
Tren A: 50mg EOD
GH: 2-3 IU ED
T3: 50mcg ED (will taper up and down but generally will stick to 50mcg ED for 75% of the cycle)

High protein, mod fat (omega's) low carb, lowish calories for 6 days/week with a clean refeed day on day 7.

Diet I am not to worried about. I know how to diet. That's never an issue.

This will be a very different cycle for me so that's what I am looking for feedback on. When I say different.. I mean such low doses (test/tren).

Thoughts?

Thanks!

PS: I've run tren before at triple the dose for a full 16 weeks without any issues (bloodwork for proof) so don't make comment that its too long.

[Namelessone]

I love the Tren and Prop for cutting but if its endurance you want I have heard a lot of good things about Winny. I've never done Winny so I'm no expert on it. I find that Tren makes me tired but strong as a bull.

[icey_boi]

ya tren is deffo not all that good for cardio and endurance bro IMHO.
i would swich the tren up with winny or keep it the same and just ad in winny at 75-100mg/day

other than that good luck with your goals bro!

[Rhinobolt10]

tren is going to be rough for endurance and for 16 weeks. If you're going to go that long I'd consider long esters. EQ is good at increasing RBC count thus improved endurance.

[WORLD]

Sometimes I consider the same thing. I'd like to try some sort of martial art.

[natenator]

Thanks guys. Appreciate the winny idea and already thought of it but want to try and use what I have plenty of. And, winny will kill my already painful joints which is also a reason for the adjustment to less bodybuilding focused.

This cycle is about holding onto what muscle I have while conducting training which will improve athletic performance and cardio endurance. I can't imagine tren such a low dose will have that big of an impact on my endurance but will definitely help me in leaning out and keeping some strength up as I progress.

If someone can give me a really great reason against the tren I'll consider but really would rather use what I have plenty of which are all the compounds I listed lol

Thanks dudes!

[guest]

i agree with the others, tren will slow you down. i'm a kickboxer and i usually run low dose test with winny or masteron or sometimes i'll throw in primo or var. i also use gh 2-3iu/day.

winny is my favorite but as i get older it starts to wreak havoc on the tendons.

you wont need much to aid your recovery, not nearly as much as a body builder looking to get huge.

i think your cycle will work fine but you would have much better performance gain with out the tren.

[outshine]

tren kills my ability to do cardio, i couldn't imagine playing any sports on it.

I would personally recommend running some eq. I am not an athlete but have notice a tremendous increase in my red blood cell count leading to wicked vascularity and stamina. Would go well with your 16 week cycle too. The only downside is the mad hunger pains I keep getting, I find it really hard to diet on.

[spiderman7]

Try cutingedgemuscle.com they have an endurance section that speaks to the use of drug in sports.

[Mad-Bull]

Heres a reason, Can't remember the source had this saved on my computer. IMO I would cut the Tren, When I have used Tren my body temperature rises phenominally which makes cardio a bit tough when I am sweating gallons of water. Plus I get horrible Calve pums from the Tren while running, and I mean HORRIBLE. Best of luck...

-UNKNOWN SOURCE
"There is a method of prostaglandin production whereby prostaglandins made from one pathway in particular happen to dictate some muscle constriction as well as platlet aggregation, while the other method of production dictates bronchial constriction, and this could possibly be the means by which Tren Acetate causes that vicious cough. The reason why though this is speculation the enanthate version doesn't cause this rapid rise in prostaglandins is because of its more steady release, and my body's ability to gradually acclimatize itself to this. If you look at the graphs in the Minto studies (in the Deca profile), you'll see that the rise and rapid peak in blood plasma levels afforded by short esters are profoundly higher than those provided with longer esters, and it's my belief that the enanthate ester provides a lower peak level and less rapid rise in prostaglandin levels, especially the ones which dictate that second form of prostaglandin release which causes bronchial constriction. I feel that this bronchial constriction never really leaves you while you use any form of Tren, and this is what causes the shortness of breath experienced by many athletes on Tren."