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drdnj
13-11-2008, 08:52 PM
After 18 years of AAS, I am finally thinking of going all out and adding GH and slin to my regimen. I have a few questions before I get going.
First, has anyone heard of SYNTROM GH? It is much cheaper than any others I have seen. Second, am i better off getting my stuff from china or here (i.e., domestic)? Price is obviously a lot better from China.

Thanks--
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icey_boi
13-11-2008, 09:38 PM
i dont use GH myself. but i dont see why you shouldnt support your local source and buy it from them.... :)

drdnj
13-11-2008, 10:26 PM
i dont use GH myself. but i dont see why you shouldnt support your local source and buy it from them.... :)

Couldn't agree more from an "ethical perspective" :)
My current domestic source only handles AAS... I can buy from an online source but it seems super expensive compared to direct from China.....

St
13-11-2008, 11:26 PM
Stay local,and no need for slin not worth the risk,plus most people don't like the way they feel on slin.

muscleshark
13-11-2008, 11:59 PM
Ya dude no need to be runnin slin too. The risks far outwiegh the rewards. And goddamn man, 18 years of AAS is ****in nuts homeboy!!!I hope that doesn't come back on you negatively, stay healthy brother, and good luck on the GH endeavor.

drdnj
14-11-2008, 12:11 AM
Ya dude no need to be runnin slin too. The risks far outwiegh the rewards. And goddamn man, 18 years of AAS is ****in nuts homeboy!!!I hope that doesn't come back on you negatively, stay healthy brother, and good luck on the GH endeavor.

18yrs on and off bro...not a continuos run ;)
Started competing when i was 17.

Praetorian
14-11-2008, 10:53 AM
The best gh is the least expensive one. Pharmaceutical GH ie Serostim, Humatrope, Nutropin will cost you a fortune...ie 1000 per 100iu or more. Chinese gh is more affordable but not quite as potent. It all depends on what your goals are...ie size, fat loss, recovery etc. Insulin is a very potent anabolic and despite what some on here have posted not dangerous if you have half a brain. Over the long term GH can allow the body to become some what insulin resistant...thus by adding insulin you can overcome this and achieve further growth. There are many schools of thought on insulin usage but the main idea is to help shuttle carbs and proteins into the cell efficiently. Using Humalog is probably the best place to start in that you only take it with meals and/or PWO with a shake. I would hold off on the insulin until you notice gains slowing down with the gh. If used too frequently slin can make you very fat.
Things to remember:
1. GH is a long term drug months not weeks
2. For growth you need 8-10 iu ED of chinese or 4-6 iu Pharm gh
3. For fat loss and enhanced recovery 2-3 iu will suffice
4. For growth you need high androgens combined with gh (ie test 1g/week)
5.If you are running it for growth then split the dose up every 4-6 hours at about 2iu
6. GH is not apoor mans drug...make sure you can afford it before starting
7. To make GH more affordable for growth short burst cycles are better...ie 6-8 weeks on and 4 weeks cruise...while on run the GH 8-10 iu ED while crusining drop it to 2iu, same thing for the test...run short esters like prop and bump it up while on ie 1-1.5g per week then down to 50mg ED while on cruise
8. If running slin limit fat intake prior to taking slin...ie pro and carb meal with slin then 3 hours later you can have some fats with a meal (this is with humalog)
9. GH needs to be run ED not EOD or 5 on 2 off...if you cant afford it ED then wait until you can
10. Start out with a low dose and ramp up...it takes time to get used to GH...if you start at 8-10 off the bat youll have some severe sides like carpal tunnel, tingling fingers, joint stiffness etc
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shithead
14-11-2008, 12:06 PM
The best gh is the least expensive one. Pharmaceutical GH ie Serostim, Humatrope, Nutropin will cost you a fortune...ie 1000 per 100iu or more. Chinese gh is more affordable but not quite as potent. It all depends on what your goals are...ie size, fat loss, recovery etc. Insulin is a very potent anabolic and despite what some on here have posted not dangerous if you have half a brain. Over the long term GH can allow the body to become some what insulin resistant...thus by adding insulin you can overcome this and achieve further growth. There are many schools of thought on insulin usage but the main idea is to help shuttle carbs and proteins into the cell efficiently. Using Humalog is probably the best place to start in that you only take it with meals and/or PWO with a shake. I would hold off on the insulin until you notice gains slowing down with the gh. If used too frequently slin can make you very fat.
Things to remember:
1. GH is a long term drug months not weeks
2. For growth you need 8-10 iu ED of chinese or 4-6 iu Pharm gh
3. For fat loss and enhanced recovery 2-3 iu will suffice
4. For growth you need high androgens combined with gh (ie test 1g/week)
5.If you are running it for growth then split the dose up every 4-6 hours at about 2iu
6. GH is not apoor mans drug...make sure you can afford it before starting
7. To make GH more affordable for growth short burst cycles are better...ie 6-8 weeks on and 4 weeks cruise...while on run the GH 8-10 iu ED while crusining drop it to 2iu, same thing for the test...run short esters like prop and bump it up while on ie 1-1.5g per week then down to 50mg ED while on cruise
8. If running slin limit fat intake prior to taking slin...ie pro and carb meal with slin then 3 hours later you can have some fats with a meal (this is with humalog)
9. GH needs to be run ED not EOD or 5 on 2 off...if you cant afford it ED then wait until you can
10. Start out with a low dose and ramp up...it takes time to get used to GH...if you start at 8-10 off the bat youll have some severe sides like carpal tunnel, tingling fingers, joint stiffness etc
P

Good post, I enjoy reading your posts bro, but my question to you is:

Is 192aa gh even close to 191aa for fat loss and muscle growth?

I had a sports physician(very prominent) tell me that 192aa can have more of a tendency to cause malignant growth and to stay away from it.

icey_boi
14-11-2008, 12:19 PM
Exelent post Praetorian!
and im on the same page as you with insulin use. i do not use it myself as there is no need for a beginner like myself to use it. it is only for ppl that are at an already eliete level of fitness. it is not anywhere as dangerous as most ppl say it to be. if used correctly along side with GH some fantastic gains can be made in a very safe manner.





The best gh is the least expensive one. Pharmaceutical GH ie Serostim, Humatrope, Nutropin will cost you a fortune...ie 1000 per 100iu or more. Chinese gh is more affordable but not quite as potent. It all depends on what your goals are...ie size, fat loss, recovery etc. Insulin is a very potent anabolic and despite what some on here have posted not dangerous if you have half a brain. Over the long term GH can allow the body to become some what insulin resistant...thus by adding insulin you can overcome this and achieve further growth. There are many schools of thought on insulin usage but the main idea is to help shuttle carbs and proteins into the cell efficiently. Using Humalog is probably the best place to start in that you only take it with meals and/or PWO with a shake. I would hold off on the insulin until you notice gains slowing down with the gh. If used too frequently slin can make you very fat.
Things to remember:
1. GH is a long term drug months not weeks
2. For growth you need 8-10 iu ED of chinese or 4-6 iu Pharm gh
3. For fat loss and enhanced recovery 2-3 iu will suffice
4. For growth you need high androgens combined with gh (ie test 1g/week)
5.If you are running it for growth then split the dose up every 4-6 hours at about 2iu
6. GH is not apoor mans drug...make sure you can afford it before starting
7. To make GH more affordable for growth short burst cycles are better...ie 6-8 weeks on and 4 weeks cruise...while on run the GH 8-10 iu ED while crusining drop it to 2iu, same thing for the test...run short esters like prop and bump it up while on ie 1-1.5g per week then down to 50mg ED while on cruise
8. If running slin limit fat intake prior to taking slin...ie pro and carb meal with slin then 3 hours later you can have some fats with a meal (this is with humalog)
9. GH needs to be run ED not EOD or 5 on 2 off...if you cant afford it ED then wait until you can
10. Start out with a low dose and ramp up...it takes time to get used to GH...if you start at 8-10 off the bat youll have some severe sides like carpal tunnel, tingling fingers, joint stiffness etc
P

Praetorian
14-11-2008, 10:59 PM
Good post, I enjoy reading your posts bro, but my question to you is:

Is 192aa gh even close to 191aa for fat loss and muscle growth?

I had a sports physician(very prominent) tell me that 192aa can have more of a tendency to cause malignant growth and to stay away from it.

192aa will work very similar but you have a much higher risk of developing antibodies (Gententech puts it at 40%) so if that does happen the results drop significantly. 191aa is readily available..more so than 192aa so it shouldnt be a concern. If you have any tumours at all I would avoid GH it will cause growth indescriminately.
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