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Blitz-Test
12-11-2008, 04:12 PM
Okay, so I have booked an appointment with the derm. it is for January 15th (great ole' canada eh 2 month wait for a simple 5 min appointment.)

I am 99% sure the derm is going to give me accutane thats the reason I am going... However I know they monitor blood values..

Problem, I am starting my cycle December 15th... So by time the appointment comes Ill be 4 weeks into a 8 week cycle... I cant really put off the cycle because ill be on Accutane for like 6 months most liekly and I am competeing this summer. So i need 1 more cycle before contest prep, (obviously my comp prep will not include 17aamethyl)

However I was planning on running 8weeks test 8 weeks tren and 4-5 weeks of turinabol..

WIll the doctor be taking the blood sample on Jan 15? If so i think they test for lipids, liver, and creatinine... So should I be worried about this?

Kilburn
12-11-2008, 04:18 PM
not going to work, they will cut you off. they take blood tests each month. steroids are going to fuk your shit up bad, especially if you're running orals.

my derm almost cut me off for taking creatine and protien powder. why the fuk are you doing it that way anyways? it is ghey as fuk. just order the accutane that your steroid source carries and use that. I used SA accutane, it works just as well.

Blitz-Test
12-11-2008, 04:24 PM
not going to work, they will cut you off. they take blood tests each month. steroids are going to fuk your shit up bad, especially if you're running orals.

my derm almost cut me off for taking creatine and protien powder. why the fuk are you doing it that way anyways? it is ghey as fuk. just order the accutane that your steroid source carries and use that. I used SA accutane, it works just as well.

What do they test for...

After this cycle I wont be using orals on it... And my contest prep i am thinking will be low dose test and maybe masteron to the end...

I would use UGL but id rather use the script if I can think about it its cheaper.. and Human Grade..

Kilburn
12-11-2008, 04:33 PM
What do they test for...

After this cycle I wont be using orals on it... And my contest prep i am thinking will be low dose test and maybe masteron to the end...

I would use UGL but id rather use the script if I can think about it its cheaper.. and Human Grade..

everything, especially liver. if anything gets too out of whack they will stop giving it to you.

seriously dude, apparently my liver enzymes were up slightly so the fuking douchebag wouldnt give me more accutane. he made me stop taking creatine and protien powder, then i had to wait a week and then get more blood work done, 2 appointments and 2 blood tests later he finally gave me more. this is when i was 18 and natural by the way. he took me off for taking fuking protien powder.

maybe your derm is alot cooler but if he took me off for fuking protien powder i can only imagin how much they will fuking flip when they see your results when you're on accutane, a boat load of steroids and god knows what else.

it is such a fuking headache. save yourself the trouble and just go with UG.

Blitz-Test
12-11-2008, 04:36 PM
everything, especially liver. if anything gets too out of whack they will stop giving it to you.

seriously dude, apparently my liver enzymes were up slightly so the fuking douchebag wouldnt give me more accutane. he made me stop taking creatine and protien powder, then i had to wait a week and then get more blood work done, 2 appointments and 2 blood tests later he finally gave me more. this is when i was 18 and natural by the way. he took me off for taking fuking protien powder.

maybe your derm is alot cooler but if he took me off for fuking protien powder i can only imagin how much they will fuking flip when they see your results when you're on accutane, a boat load of steroids and god knows what else.

it is such a fuking headache. save yourself the trouble and just go with UG.


I am not going to be telling them I am going to use steroids, and they dont check out endrocrine system do they?

If so they will be shocked lol... Test super high, estrogen super high, prolactin super high lol...

My liver is important to me so I would be using orals while on accutane.. and I will be using NAC the whole time

buffdaddy
12-11-2008, 04:51 PM
Have you tried Minocylin ( sp? ). It is not as harsh on the liver and they do not monitor your blood levels. It has worked great for me. You may want to request that from your doc first and give it a shot.

Kilburn
12-11-2008, 04:54 PM
I am not going to be telling them I am going to use steroids, and they dont check out endrocrine system do they?

If so they will be shocked lol... Test super high, estrogen super high, prolactin super high lol...

My liver is important to me so I would be using orals while on accutane.. and I will be using NAC the whole time

they probably will beable to tell by looking at the results plus if you're really jacked it's going to be obvious as fuk. people arn't stupid, especially doctors.

well anyways, good luck, i hope your derm is cool cause if he's anything like mine was youre FUKED.

phatkid77
12-11-2008, 05:41 PM
im concerned that you NEED to run this 8 week cycle now!!! since you are not going to post pone that, cause they will draw blood the day of,
WILL NOT PRESCRIBE IT BEFORE THEY NOW YOUR BLOOD LEVELS!!!!

having said that, i have done tonnes of research on this, and there are people that SAY they have run some doozy cycles while on accutane, and there liver values and such were fine.....everyone is different.. i guess super sup doses may come into play here...

phats

muscleshark
12-11-2008, 10:10 PM
Accutane is really hard on you. I have bros that quit going to the gym while taking that shit cause it was ****ing with thier heads too much. Not to mention it annihilates the sebacious glands in the skin, which secrete oil to keep your skin from drying out. Now do you really want to be going through all of that cause you are sick of zits? There are easier and safer ways of going about acne care I would sincerly encourage you to seek them out. And the bloodwork they do for Accutane tests for EVERYTHING!!! Cholesterol levels, good and bad, lipids, red and white bloodcell count, enzyme count, you name it they do it.

Blitz-Test
12-11-2008, 10:50 PM
Have you tried Minocylin ( sp? ). It is not as harsh on the liver and they do not monitor your blood levels. It has worked great for me. You may want to request that from your doc first and give it a shot.

Doesnt work for me, I have tried Tetracycline, Minocycline, 10% benzyl peroxide.... High dose vit b5

nisser
12-11-2008, 11:29 PM
Accutane is one of those medications doctors don't prescribe lightly because of all the possible complications, especially to people out of puberty. The doc will make sure to cover his ass well before giving you the script for it and if your liver panel is off the charts, forget about it.

IronRobi
15-11-2008, 08:07 PM
you'll probably get one of the cyclines if it's your first trip to the dermatologist. Maybe a cream as well.

Blitz-Test
15-11-2008, 08:32 PM
you'll probably get one of the cyclines if it's your first trip to the dermatologist. Maybe a cream as well.

Ive had;

Tetracycline
Minocycline
10% benzyl peroxide

nisser
15-11-2008, 09:43 PM
Ive had;

Tetracycline
Minocycline
10% benzyl peroxide

Have you had those clinically prescribed? If you got them off your source and there's no paper-trail, he won't buy it.

edit: I think it's also important to mention that yeah all of this sounds annoying but accutane is a dangerous drug and it can really **** you up psychologically. I hope you're well aware of all the risks yourself and be open to different treatments from your doctor.

Blitz-Test
15-11-2008, 10:10 PM
Have you had those clinically prescribed? If you got them off your source and there's no paper-trail, he won't buy it.

edit: I think it's also important to mention that yeah all of this sounds annoying but accutane is a dangerous drug and it can really **** you up psychologically. I hope you're well aware of all the risks yourself and be open to different treatments from your doctor.

i am open i want something else but there really isnt anything, i have used all that stuff through the pharmacy

Felinecougar
15-11-2008, 10:27 PM
http://accutane.poweradvocates.com/accutane_side_effects.html

Blitz-Test
16-11-2008, 12:53 PM
http://accutane.poweradvocates.com/accutane_side_effects.html

Its a long line of side effects, but we do know that when they do a 8 month study anything the subjects experience is labeled as a side effect, head aches, stomach pain, depression, anger.... these are all things everyone experiences in 8 months...

We can also look at the side effects of steroids... which is also very long, which i havent seen many of the sides