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Gib

26-10-2008, 12:32 AM

Cote took Silva to the third round!!

And the fight ended on a freak accident.....cote blew his knee out att he start of the third.....fight ends, SIlva wins.

Poor bastard, he did GREAT! AWESOME fight if you understand striking, the footwork by both men was GORGEOUS!

Great showing for Cote, damn shame it ended that way. Also, probably the classiest, most respectful fight i have ever seen.

gordi

26-10-2008, 12:40 AM

... and macka was right about dos Santos. That was one hell of an impressive KO.

... and we never got to see if Kos or Alves was better on the ground. Kos only tried two takedowns and neither of them came close. Alves is one hell of a fighter. Him vs. GSP will be EPIC.

Poor Patrick, though. That was awful.

tex

26-10-2008, 01:15 AM

silva is such a bad ass he just looked at cote's knee and it snapped.....was good fight before he used his jedi shit tho

turboturist

26-10-2008, 01:10 PM

ergie

26-10-2008, 01:53 PM

^^ ya thats what I got from it to, not really much of a fight.

26-10-2008, 07:23 PM

Cote did good,he stuck with his game plan sad it didn't go 5 rounds.

BAM

26-10-2008, 07:23 PM

Do you think Silva would go 3 rounds for the fun of it? Doubt it.

I'd love to see a rematch someday.

muscleshark

26-10-2008, 07:30 PM

Christ, Silva was like a cat playing with a ball of yarn. He was toying with Cote, and stretching the fight out cause he knew he could of ended it anytime he wanted to. Cote was scared and incredibly apprehensive. He was so ****ing tense no wonder his tendon or ligament let go on him. Cote stood no chance in a froze-over hell against Silva and that fact was clear as day. I can't beleive Koschek was able so soak up the beating from Alves and still fight back with snap. Good for him, he suffered a good loss, one that could deffinitly renew a contract.

spankmonkey

26-10-2008, 07:41 PM

Mr Ontario

26-10-2008, 07:41 PM

Any up-loads of the fights yet? I missed it!

trykillthis

26-10-2008, 07:43 PM

Pretty sure thats what Silva did with his last fight with Franklin. Coasted through the first round cause it was Franklin's home town, then hammered him in the second.

Rhinobolt10

26-10-2008, 07:52 PM

Sean Sherl has the best fight of the night, those two guys went at each other full tilt for 3 rounds.

BAM

26-10-2008, 08:06 PM

Any up-loads of the fights yet? I missed it!

Yeah, I posted a link to a live feed of the whole event at the end of the ufc 90 thread last night. I believe it is still replaying it.
http://www.canadabodybuilding.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3624&page=2 (link is on last page bottom)

or if you just want the silva/cote fight
http://www.mmatko.com/anderson-silva-vs-patrick-cote-fight-video-ufc-90/ (scroll down)

BAM

26-10-2008, 08:32 PM

Christ, Silva was like a cat playing with a ball of yarn.

It may have seemed that way, but if you consider that Silva's style generally depends on his opponent being aggressive while he himself scores with counter attacks. Cote clearly knew this and didn't blindly attack like Leben did.

Thats why the fight went so long. Silva's silly antics were designed to provoke Cote to attack and be aggressive, but Cote didn't fall for it. Cote essentially mirrored Silva's defensive style.

Watch the fight again.. in fact watch all of Silva's fights and I think you will agree with me. IMHO.. tactically, Cote did wonderfully.

muscleshark

26-10-2008, 09:52 PM

Easy to say from outside the ring dude. What possible reason would a fighter have to carry the fight for 3 rounds unless he wanted to punish his opponent? Give your head a shake.:ji

Give my head shake? Are you that naive to the fight game, that you think the idea of stretching out a fight and toying with a fighter is absurd? When a fighter is at the absolute top of the food chain in his division, has literally destroyed the best of the best to get there, has had absolutly no challenge from anybody to date, dances around the ring, showboats, then lands perfect shots with fancy attacks such as a flying scissor knee, and has 100% connection rate with everything he throws, has even considered or maybe still is considering retiring cause of the lack of challenge in his division, isn't gonna get bored, and maybe wanna spice it up alittle, throw Cote a bone and give him every possible chance to give him a worthy fight? There could be a ton of reasons why man. Id sure as shit do it if I was that damn good. Hell anybody would, its human nature. :rofl I can't believe that thought wouldnt cross your mind!!! I thinks its you that should be shaking his head!!!:moon

Gib

26-10-2008, 09:57 PM

Cote its hard enough that Silva didnt want to get caught by a haymaker when moving forward. Cote took some serious shots in their few flurries and wasnt fazed. Again, watch the fight and pay close attention to the footwork, watch how they keep switching, either to draw a feint or to mirror their opponent. Tha throws tempo off big time, especially for silva as cote hasnt really done that before. Anderson didnt want to rush in and get caught, -he really IS good enough to stand back, pick his moment then BANG- and cote was planning to take silva long to see if he could tire him and try to finish late.

BAM

26-10-2008, 10:05 PM

Maybe the UFC needs to bring in the little chinaman or one of the other 3 guys that pwned him before.

:)

muscleshark

26-10-2008, 10:06 PM

It may have seemed that way, but if you consider that Silva's style generally depends on his opponent being aggressive while he himself scores with counter attacks. Cote clearly knew this and didn't blindly attack like Leben did.

Thats why the fight went so long. Silva's silly antics were designed to provoke Cote to attack and be aggressive, but Cote didn't fall for it. Cote essentially mirrored Silva's defensive style.

Watch the fight again.. in fact watch all of Silva's fights and I think you will agree with me. IMHO.. tactically, Cote did wonderfully.

Now that is a worthy oppinion to debate over. Yes I agree wholeheartedly that Silva is a counter attacker, on the other hand, Cote had no answer from the get go for Silva. He held back punches that he should of followed through with, **** he even tried a lackluster attempt on taking Silva to the ground where COte has NO buisness going with BJJ blackbelt, EVER. This too, being in all respect my honest oppinions also, and I still feel it was pointless fight. Silva needs to go to 205 where there is challenge for him. Rashad Evans Vs Silva would be a great match-up to start.

BAM

26-10-2008, 10:11 PM

Rashad Evans Vs Silva would be a great match-up to start.

Now that I'd like to see. Win win situation either way.

lol

gordi

26-10-2008, 10:23 PM

Maybe the UFC needs to bring in the little chinaman or one of the other 3 guys that pwned him before.

:)

Uh. Bam. Dude. Bro. Daisuke Takase and Ryo Chonan are Japanese, not Chinese. :)

BAM

26-10-2008, 10:45 PM

lol.. I should have said Asian.. MY bad

Kiem

26-10-2008, 11:20 PM

Theres really no way that Daisuke Takase or Ryo Chonan can even touch Silva now. He has improved immensely since losing to those two, while they have stayed at the same skill level.

Since EliteXc is gone I would really like the UFC to pick up Paulo Filho. It would be a great matchup, since Silva has the upper hand in standup and Filho has the better the BJJ. There's no need for Silva to jump to the 205 division. There still is alot of other good middleweights in other organizations, that I believe can give Silva a run for his money. Dana just has to open the cheque book.

Gegard Mousasi
Paulo Filho
Melvin Manhoef
Kazuo Misaki
Denis Kang

turboturist

27-10-2008, 10:52 AM

UFC needs to challenge Silva
By Dan Wetzel, Yahoo! Sports
Oct 26, 4:23 am EDT

ROSEMONT, Ill. – Anderson Silva’s corner kept screaming at him to start acting like, well, Anderson Silva. UFC president Dana White said he thought he was in an “alternate universe” and wanted someone to slap him out of this bad dream.

At the end of the first round of their UFC 90 main event, Patrick Cote, after watching Silva bizarrely bow to him, shrugged in bafflement. That wasn’t even as unusual as the moment in the second round when Silva offered a hand to help Cote up off his back, rather than stomp him as you’d expect.

The Silva-Cote middleweight title fight ended in the third round when Cote blew out his knee without any contact. That was as strange, although not as much as the fight lasting to the third round in the first place.

“I was sitting there saying, ‘What the [expletive] is going on?’ ” White said.

Everyone showed up in suburban Chicago looking for Silva to deliver one of his Mike Tyson-esque destructions of Cote, the heavy underdog. This is what Silva fights are about, some violent combination of punches, knees and kicks that render opponents senseless.

“He’s a killer,” White said.

Not on Saturday. While Cote deserves credit for fearlessly standing in front of him, this was about Silva, arguably the best fighter in the world, deciding not to do much fighting.

He didn’t throw a purposeful punch for most of the first round. Rather than attack with his patented combinations, he danced, he pranced, he swayed and he even prayed. He did little hand tricks, Muhammad Ali feet shuffles and ran around in circles.

“If you don’t know him and you showed up for the first time, you’d [think] that guy was goofing around, he was acting arrogant and cocky and trying to play with [Cote] like he was a little kid,” White said. “That is not this guy’s style, that’s not his personality, that’s not who he is.”

No it isn’t. Silva, afterward, apologized for his performance yet also defended it, claiming he wasn’t out there playing and he was just throwing Cote off his game. He sounded as confused as everyone else.

The theories of what happened are endless. Perhaps he didn’t respect Cote and was unprepared. Perhaps he felt the need to deliver an entertaining show to the fans. Perhaps he was bored. Perhaps all the talk about switching to boxing or retiring outright, got to him. Perhaps he felt pressure to finish with a spectacular knockout.

Whatever it was, the solution is simple.

White needs to feed Silva opponents that’ll either motivate him to bring his “A” game or make him pay for any mental lapses.

Give him Chuck Liddell on Super Bowl weekend at UFC 94. If he survives that, give him Georges St. Pierre back at middleweight to headline the historic UFC 100 early next summer. Then have him go back to light heavyweight for a shot at whoever has the title after that.

Give him anything but what he’s gotten his last two fights, opponents that weren’t capable of hurting him and thus incapable of bringing out his best.

“I don’t know, I’ve got to think about it,” White said of Silva’s next opponent.

He would only smile at the suggestion of Liddell, the former light heavyweight champion, which means he’s certainly considering what would be a major pay-per-view draw. He did say he thought Silva wanted to return to 205 pounds for his next fight (Saturday’s was at 185).

Mostly White was searching for answers just like everyone else. Over the past two years Silva (23-4) has been his most reliable meal ticket. You put the Brazilian in the octagon and someone gets finished; often quickly and in spectacular fashion.

Until Saturday, no one in the UFC had lasted past the second round with the guy. He wasn’t just considered by many the best pound-for-pound fighter in the world, but the most exciting.

He was the perfect headliner for the UFC’s first card in the Second City. Cote is a tough guy who wasn’t backing down, but few outside his diehard fans thought Silva would need more than a few minutes to send everyone home buzzing about the UFC.

Instead fans were booing at the end, as much at Silva as the disappointment of Cote’s knee giving out.

“I was sitting there going, ‘No, this isn’t happening,’ ” White said.

In the end, if this is what constitutes an off night and an emotional letdown for Silva, then it isn’t too bad. Cote got a couple shots in, but not nearly enough for the fight to be in doubt. It’s why White didn’t look too interested in an immediate rematch even if Cote was healthy.

So give Silva a challenge he can’t afford to sleepwalk through. End the Knockouts Across America parade, give up on the middleweight division he has annihilated and find him some mega-fights that will bring out his best.

Chuck Liddell is waiting at 205. GSP (no matter what happens against B.J. Penn) can move up and challenge at 185. Acquiring a second title has always been Silva’s dream and should motivate if he’s still rolling after that.

“I’ll tell you this,” White said. “I wouldn’t want to be the next dude that has to fight him because he’s not happy.”

Then raise the bar and bring it on.

http://sports.yahoo.com/mma/news?slu...yhoo&type=lgns

turboturist

27-10-2008, 10:54 AM

Those would be some very nice match up and some great scraps.

Liddel vs Silva, GSP vs Silva a couple of good ones there for sure.

natenator

27-10-2008, 11:19 AM

anyone think GSP could take silva out?

turboturist

27-10-2008, 12:21 PM

anyone think GSP could take silva out?

I think he def has a chance. Would depend on what weight they fight at and if GSP has the time to get conditioned or use to the higher weight.

This potentially could be a very exciting fast passed but short fight or it could be a ****in snooze fest due to each fighter being tentative due to being wary of their opponents skills.

Michael 2009

27-10-2008, 12:35 PM

anyone think GSP could take silva out?I think samething....

bigdaddydrew123

27-10-2008, 02:34 PM

silva is toom far ahead of everybody in his weight class,prob board with defending against guys he knows he can beat easaily.as far as his performance i think he was enrtaining himself,ali played with alot of his opponents,ie picked rounds to ko them in and carried them there.nobody said nothing about that

gordi

27-10-2008, 04:39 PM

nobody said nothing about that

Uh, yeah, they kind of did. A lot of middle America flat out hated Ali when he was champ. It's only relatively recently that he's become the beloved icon that he always deserved to be.

spankmonkey

27-10-2008, 05:53 PM

Give my head shake? Are you that naive to the fight game, that you think the idea of stretching out a fight and toying with a fighter is absurd? When a fighter is at the absolute top of the food chain in his division, has literally destroyed the best of the best to get there, has had absolutly no challenge from anybody to date, dances around the ring, showboats, then lands perfect shots with fancy attacks such as a flying scissor knee, and has 100% connection rate with everything he throws, has even considered or maybe still is considering retiring cause of the lack of challenge in his division, isn't gonna get bored, and maybe wanna spice it up alittle, throw Cote a bone and give him every possible chance to give him a worthy fight? There could be a ton of reasons why man. Id sure as shit do it if I was that damn good. Hell anybody would, its human nature. :rofl I can't believe that thought wouldnt cross your mind!!! I thinks its you that should be shaking his head!!!:moon
Sorry dude, but you are the naive one. If Silva is so good and at the top of the food chain then he of all people would know that all it takes is one strike to end the fight. He would have done his homework and prepared to do battle and would have know that Cote could connect and take his title. So why I ask would a man who is at the top of his game and a champion run the risk of losing his title so he could show boat? Answer is he would'nt knuckle head, that would be unprofessional and disrespectful and given his behaviour I think he is neither. Have you ever been i the ring, or do you just sit on the couch and profess to know all?:puff

Gib

27-10-2008, 07:07 PM

GSP is a bad match up for Anderson. They would probably fight at 185, but GSP is stellar at timing his takedowns against his opponent coming at him with strikes. He could score the take down and ride out a decision with ground and pound.

Silva vs Liddell i have zero interest in seeing. I have always thought Chuck was over hyped, and being on the down hill slide as he seems to be now, i dont think it would even be close.

BAM

27-10-2008, 07:22 PM

Silva / Cote post fight interview (http://sports.espn.go.com/broadband/video/video?id=3665051)

muscleshark

27-10-2008, 08:56 PM

Sorry dude, but you are the naive one. If Silva is so good and at the top of the food chain then he of all people would know that all it takes is one strike to end the fight. He would have done his homework and prepared to do battle and would have know that Cote could connect and take his title. So why I ask would a man who is at the top of his game and a champion run the risk of losing his title so he could show boat? Answer is he would'nt knuckle head, that would be unprofessional and disrespectful and given his behaviour I think he is neither. Have you ever been i the ring, or do you just sit on the couch and profess to know all?:puff

18 years in the fight game buddy. Its all I do and believe me I can bet you my house I see further into fights and opponents then you EVER will, knucklehead. Why don't you read what turboturist pasted and you will see I wasn't the only one with this "ludicrous" idea of Silva playing around. Like Gordi said, Ali did it all the time, and I can name at least a half dozen more champs that do this kind of thing all of the time. Your argument holds no validation at all, and shows you know **** all about fighting. I will no longer respond to your retarded retorts and I hope you lose sleep over my oppinions.

BAM

27-10-2008, 09:01 PM

If you watch the Cote / Silva post fight interview, Silva clearly points out that he was not playing around.

It looked to me that Silva legitimately was trying to put him away a few times. Cote took some heavy blows.

spankmonkey

27-10-2008, 10:02 PM

18 years in the fight game buddy. Its all I do and believe me I can bet you my house I see further into fights and opponents then you EVER will, knucklehead. Why don't you read what turboturist pasted and you will see I wasn't the only one with this "ludicrous" idea of Silva playing around. Like Gordi said, Ali did it all the time, and I can name at least a half dozen more champs that do this kind of thing all of the time. Your argument holds no validation at all, and shows you know **** all about fighting. I will no longer respond to your retarded retorts and I hope you lose sleep over my oppinions.

you sound very young, so I doubt you have 18 years in any fight game and if you did you would have achieved some semblence of success. I really don't see myself losing any sleep over your juvenile comments and quite frankly this boils down to your opinion over mine and that is it. So sweet dreams young prince and good luck with what I am sure will continue to be a prosperous "fighting" carreer.

trykillthis

28-10-2008, 01:57 PM

I have always thought Chuck was over hyped, and being on the down hill slide as he seems to be now, i dont think it would even be close.

****en A. **** Chuck.

turboturist

28-10-2008, 03:33 PM

Silva vs Liddell i have zero interest in seeing. I have always thought Chuck was over hyped, and being on the down hill slide as he seems to be now, i dont think it would even be close.

Seriously? I would love to see him get his ass handed to him again. He was unstoppable remember.

guest

28-10-2008, 03:46 PM

personally, because of the hype about cote's chin, i think silva was looking for the right opening to have a clean KO finish. you can be sure what was perceived as needless showboating had a purpose, to confuse, frustrate and/or create an opening. cote's untimely knee mishap really ****ed things up.

for a guy that wants to retire after 6 fights as one of the greatest p4p mma fighters...i can see him not wanting to achieve stunning victory.

bigdaddydrew123

28-10-2008, 05:13 PM

Uh, yeah, they kind of did. A lot of middle America flat out hated Ali when he was champ. It's only relatively recently that he's become the beloved icon that he always deserved to be.maybe in the 60s but by the 70s he was loved and respected by alot of people,but my point is great fighters sometimes become board with opponents that are less talented and showboat,to amuse themselves or tactical,or just because they can.cote is lucky he didnt fight a buisness only fight.

gordi

28-10-2008, 05:27 PM

maybe in the 60s but by the 70s he was loved and respected by alot of people,but my point is great fighters sometimes become board with opponents that are less talented and showboat,to amuse themselves or tactical,or just because they can.cote is lucky he didnt fight a buisness only fight.

Oh, yeah. I agree that it's normal for fighters to showboat. It's also pretty normal for folks to complain about it.

BAM

28-10-2008, 05:44 PM

if you watch the post fight interview I posted. Silva clearly states that he was not playing around..
http://sports.espn.go.com/broadband/video/video?id=3665051
lol.. what's more to say?

guest

28-10-2008, 05:56 PM

if you watch the post fight interview I posted. Silva clearly states that he was not playing around..
http://sports.espn.go.com/broadband/video/video?id=3665051
lol.. what's more to say?

do you feel as though you are not being heard or possibly ignored? hehe. at any rate, its nice to know i was correct in my assumption:)

BAM

28-10-2008, 06:11 PM

do you feel as though you are not being heard or possibly ignored? hehe. at any rate, its nice to know i was correct in my assumption:)

Yeah.. as people keep arguing about things that were clearly set straight right from the horses mouth, they either didnt watch the clip, or they are retards.

(shrug)

turboturist

28-10-2008, 06:49 PM

Anderson Silva: No Disrespect To Cote Despite Outward Appearances [Oct 28, 2008]
Randy Harrison

In the aftermath of a title bout that had a finish that ranks right up there with the Randy Couture/Vitor Belfort title fight in 2004, everyone has weighed in with their opinions. Challenger Patrick Cote spoke of his feeling that UFC Middleweight Champion Anderson Silva was scared to strike with him. UFC President Dana White wondered if something was wrong with "The Spider" in the bout. Now it is Silva's turn to speak on the bout.

In an interview with Sherdog.com , Silva answered his critics who felt that he was showboating and disrespecting Cote during the bout with his dancing and exaggerated hand movements;

“There are many people saying I was disrespecting Cote, but this is absolutely not true. My game plan since the beginning was fight five rounds, inducing him to commit mistakes and capitalize on that during the first three rounds and look for the knockout during the fourth and fifth rounds. It was working, and the biggest proof of that is that I almost didn’t waste any blows. I connected with a couple of good punches and knees, but unfortunately he got hurt and the fight was over. This is not my fault.”

It's interesting to hear Silva's gameplan and it lends serious credence to the fact that while he may have fought fighters who were bigger and heavier, Silva was concerned with Cote's knockout power. I believed from the beginning that Silva was trying to goad Cote into striking first so that he could counter Cote's punches, but Cote was too smart to bite.

It appears that less than Silva being bored, this was just a case of two men who were sticking to their gameplans and as such it resulted in the fight we got on Saturday night. Knowing that it was Silva's gameplan and that he was affording so much respect to Cote's power leads me to believe that he is deserving of another shot when he recovers from his injury, be it against Silva or whoever else is the champ.

gordi

28-10-2008, 07:39 PM

Yeah.. as people keep arguing about things that were clearly set straight right from the horses mouth, they either didnt watch the clip, or they are retards.

(shrug)

Hell yeah, bro. I remember when Bill Clinton said, "I did not have sexual relations with that woman, Miss Lewinsky."

I remember when George Bush said, “We found the weapons of mass destruction. We found biological laboratories … And we'll find more weapons as time goes on. But for those who say we haven't found the banned manufacturing devices or banned weapons, they're wrong, we found them."

I remember when Barry Bonds told Bob Costas, about steroid use, "No. I don't have to. I mean, I'm a good enough ballplayer as it is. I don't need to be any better. I can't get any better at this age."

There it is, bro, set straight right from the horse's mouth.

I guess all the people who still questioned what happened were retards, too, eh? :D

To be honest, I totally believe that Silva was farting around out there, and I thought it was awesome. Silva is a guy, like Ali, who is skilled enugh to do whatever the hell he wants out there. If Cote hadn't suffered that unfortunate knee injury, that might have gone down as one of my favourite fights of all time.

BAM

28-10-2008, 07:48 PM

What would the benefit be of lying about the fight from Silva's perspective? I don't really see the parallels to the other scenarios you describe.

(shrug)

gordi

28-10-2008, 08:09 PM

What would the benefit be of lying about the fight from Silva's perspective? I don't really see the parallels to the other scenarios you describe.

(shrug)

You're right. Also, Silva comes across as a deeply sincere and honest guy whereas Clinton, Bush, and Bonds come across as big phony liars. I'm only trying to point out that it doesn't make you a retard if you don't belive everything you hear people say about themselves.

BAM

28-10-2008, 08:16 PM

Yeah, perhaps retard was a bit strong. My apologies, I've had a lousy day.

gordi

28-10-2008, 08:19 PM

... I've had a lousy day.

Sorry to hear that. Hope it was better than Cote's Saturday, at least.

muscleshark

28-10-2008, 11:00 PM

you sound very young, so I doubt you have 18 years in any fight game and if you did you would have achieved some semblence of success. I really don't see myself losing any sleep over your juvenile comments and quite frankly this boils down to your opinion over mine and that is it. So sweet dreams young prince and good luck with what I am sure will continue to be a prosperous "fighting" carreer.

Im 32, and I could care less what I sound like to you. You are the one that can't handle my oppinion on a fight result. You are the one who started with the snarky comments towards me. And my fighting career is on hold due to a rotator cuff replacement from an injury in my last fight. You are welcome to doubt me till your are blue in the face. Its the internet, people have oppinions, deal with it, if not, find something better to do with your time. Maybe I can offer you a dance in the ring with me, I'll put your doubt to rest and make great use of your dental premiums.

bigdaddydrew123

29-10-2008, 07:38 AM

ms welcome to cbb havent heard shark attacks in awhile.i dont think internet heroes will dance in the real world,although it would be great to see ,ill place a bet .bad wing or not.theres lots of vets who fought a long time but arent household names ,but i wouldnt get in the ring with them, ill do my fighting on the boards ,lol

turboturist

29-10-2008, 11:36 AM

Anderson going crazy: wants to fight at UFC 91
It sounds like some of the criticism is starting to hit home for Anderson Silva. UFC president Dana White told the Las Vegas Review-Journal that Silva wants to get right back on the horse:

"He's flipping out. He wants to fight again, like, on Nov. 15. He's (upset) about his performance and he wants to fight again immediately."

A Silva appearance on Nov. 15 is highly unlikely. There's no one of any quality who would take a Silva fight on three weeks notice for UFC 91. The following UFC cards (UFC 92 & 94) are completely stacked so where would a Silva fight fit in? UFC 93 in Dublin could use some beefing up. Right now the main event is Rich Franklin v. Dan Henderson and the second fight is Shogun Rua and Mark Coleman.

The UFC should make a fight for Silva at 205. Who should the next victim be? Dana White told Yahoo! Sports on Saturday that he feels sorry for the next guy who fights the 'disrespected' Silva. White had little response to a question about matching up Chuck Liddell and Silva in London in February. That matchup does have huge sizzle and all parties involved may feel some pressure to repair the image of both Liddell and Silva with a superfight.

http://sports.yahoo.com/mma/blog/mma...urn=mma,117942

ironwill

29-10-2008, 11:38 AM

Silva and Liddell would be awesome.....

macka

29-10-2008, 11:41 AM

Never forget that for every famous fighter out there, there are at least 1000 non famous fighters trying to grind their way to the top. When I was boxing, I trained with an olympic class boxer who held medals at every amateur level, but never made it into the pro arena. He was a damn good boxer, however, going pro brings things to a new level, and a lot of athletes won't make it. He told me that pro is a whole new level and the intensity of keeping in that arena will make or break you.

macka

29-10-2008, 11:42 AM

Silva and Liddell would be awesome.....

Your avatar is awesome

ironwill

29-10-2008, 11:46 AM

Your avatar is awesome

Thanks bro...It is some chick I trapped that shares my bed and house with me.....I spend a lot of time at home the past couple yrs....lolol

gordi

29-10-2008, 01:04 PM

18 years in the fight game buddy. Its all I do and believe me I can bet you my house I see further into fights and opponents...

Bro, you should post a log of your training and recovery with thoughts on fights and stuff. I love reading insider takes on the fight game. (For example, reading Tom Lawlor's blog on TUF 8 is even more fun than watching the show).

You say 18 years in the fight game, so that would mean you started out wellbefore the first UFC at, what, 14? Did you start out in boxing, wrestling, or martial arts? Were you a fan of UFC from the very beginning? Seriously, you should start your own thread about this stuff. I'd read it, and I doubt I'm the only one.

I did pretty well in Judo as a teenager, and I often wish I'd gone further with it. (I ended up doing pro wrestling for a few years, that was a huge amount of fun and knowing how to fall came in pretty handy there). I don't think I'd ever have been fast enough or a good enough striker to get into MMA, but I really have a huge amount of respect for the amount of training that fighters have to do to be well-rounded, and for the sheer balls it takes to get in there.

spankmonkey

29-10-2008, 01:33 PM

Im 32, and I could care less what I sound like to you. You are the one that can't handle my oppinion on a fight result. You are the one who started with the snarky comments towards me. And my fighting career is on hold due to a rotator cuff replacement from an injury in my last fight. You are welcome to doubt me till your are blue in the face. Its the internet, people have oppinions, deal with it, if not, find something better to do with your time. Maybe I can offer you a dance in the ring with me, I'll put your doubt to rest and make great use of your dental premiums.

I thought you were done with me???

Let's set something straight. You say I can not handle your opinion and I made a snarky remark towards you and yet you later state "its the internet, people have opinions, deal with it".
Then to further goad me with a ludicrous statement like a dance in the ring with you???? Whatever:ji
Take a pill dude and heed your own advice. I am entitled to my opinion and I will voice it and if you take offense or dissagree that is your porrogative.

It is time to move on and stop trying to convince me about how great your insight is and tough you are, cause quite frankly I really do not care. I simply stated an opinion which, by-the-way was backed up by Silva himself.

Cheers

pinhead

29-10-2008, 03:20 PM

I thought Cote did rather well in the fight. Not winning but not getting killed either.

muscleshark

29-10-2008, 10:00 PM

I thought you were done with me???

Let's set something straight. You say I can not handle your opinion and I made a snarky remark towards you and yet you later state "its the internet, people have opinions, deal with it".
Then to further goad me with a ludicrous statement like a dance in the ring with you???? Whatever:ji
Take a pill dude and heed your own advice. I am entitled to my opinion and I will voice it and if you take offense or dissagree that is your porrogative.

It is time to move on and stop trying to convince me about how great your insight is and tough you are, cause quite frankly I really do not care. I simply stated an opinion which, by-the-way was backed up by Silva himself.

Cheers

Buddy you are a real piece of work. You are trying to say how you are entitled to your own oppinion and saying I'M the one taking offence to it when it has been the exact opposite. Dude, do I have to draw you a picture for you to grasp the fact that YOU started this bullshit right from the start? I think you should re-read all of these rediculous posts and there is no ****ing way you can miss the fact that you were the one patronizing me and making the comments first. It's pretty obvious I bother you for some reason or another and frankly I'm gettin a kick out of it now cause I know I can get a reaction from you. You must lead a pretty unfullfilled life to be bothered by what little ole me has to say on a eff'n bodybuilding forum. And better yet you even doubt what I do in my own personal life, so I must say I'm flattered that you are taking such interest in me. Well you just keep at it in your little corner of the internet, you re-hearse your next witty response and I'll keep giving you more inspiration.:yeah

muscleshark

29-10-2008, 11:14 PM

Bro, you should post a log of your training and recovery with thoughts on fights and stuff. I love reading insider takes on the fight game. (For example, reading Tom Lawlor's blog on TUF 8 is even more fun than watching the show).

You say 18 years in the fight game, so that would mean you started out wellbefore the first UFC at, what, 14? Did you start out in boxing, wrestling, or martial arts? Were you a fan of UFC from the very beginning? Seriously, you should start your own thread about this stuff. I'd read it, and I doubt I'm the only one.

I did pretty well in Judo as a teenager, and I often wish I'd gone further with it. (I ended up doing pro wrestling for a few years, that was a huge amount of fun and knowing how to fall came in pretty handy there). I don't think I'd ever have been fast enough or a good enough striker to get into MMA, but I really have a huge amount of respect for the amount of training that fighters have to do to be well-rounded, and for the sheer balls it takes to get in there.

Yes Gordi I started out in Goju-Ryo Karate at the age of 7 if I can remember and achieved a Junior Black belt by 14. Then took that right into Muay Thai and Jun-Fan kickboxing for the next ten years. Then Started MMA and Ju-jitsu at 26 and never looked back. And yes Ive been a die-hard UFC fan since UFC 1 back in 93. I get worked up over fighting and have always been that way and my parents thought it would be a novel idea to teach me discipline through martial arts!! Well it taught me how to fight better than anything. One thing I can offer for insight is you can train all your life and completly blow it when its time to throwdown if you don't have the heart to fight. Its not what you know, its how you use it when the negative adrenaline flow is running your mind amok.

spankmonkey

30-10-2008, 12:07 AM

gordi

30-10-2008, 12:22 AM

Its not what you know, its how you use it when the negative adrenaline flow is running your mind amok.

That is one of the things that most impresses me about pro fighters: Their ability to keep cool and think clearly after an adrenaline dump that would turn most human beings into frothing, gibbering idiots.

I got press passes to Bodog when they came to Vancouver in '06. I'd done interviews with Tara LaRosa, Chael Sonnen and Ron Waterman prior to the show, and went back to do follow-ups after their fights. LaRosa had just come off a beautiful submission victory in the second against a very active but obviously overmatched Russian fighter, so I wasn't too surprised that she was able to calmly talk about her fight... but in fact she was also sweet and funny. Sonnen went to a frustrating three-round decision. He won, but he wasn't able to put his opponent away, and the crowd had booed his fight. He was covered in sweat and blood and clearly not happy. I asked him if he'd heard the crowd booing, and he responded calmly, tactfully, and intelligently. Waterman was handed a first-round submission loss, the first time he'd been tapped out in his career. He was gracious in his answers to my questions, and took the time to make eye contact, warmly shake my hand, and thank me for the interview.

Damn, bro... if I get into a fight, I'm a dick to everyone for about half an hour afterward. I can't help it. My adrenaline is out of control, and so am I. Those pros, though, still dripping with sweat and everything, were unfailingly in control and able to give good well-spoken answers to difficult questions just moments after fighting. That's unreal.

natenator

30-10-2008, 09:12 AM

Damn, bro... if I get into a fight, I'm a dick to everyone for about half an hour afterward. I can't help it. My adrenaline is out of control, and so am I. Those pros, though, still dripping with sweat and everything, were unfailingly in control and able to give good well-spoken answers to difficult questions just moments after fighting. That's unreal.

It's their job. They train for us. When we in the general population get into a fight there's a reason why we're a dick after, or shakey, of have anxiety... because we're human and fighting isn't our job and we haven't trained to deal with the unemotional response that a pro has. We humanize fighting and take it to an emotional level. Pro's do not.

spankmonkey

30-10-2008, 09:58 AM

It's their job. They train for us. When we in the general population get into a fight there's a reason why we're a dick after, or shakey, of have anxiety... because we're human and fighting isn't our job and we haven't trained to deal with the unemotional response that a pro has. We humanize fighting and take it to an emotional level. Pro's do not.

This is a great topic and should have its own thread, don't you think? Like maybe what the difference is between cage/ring fighting prep and everyday street protection prep.
I remember speaking with Mike Myles when he was preparing to go overseas and defend his title. His son was at a match were I was one of the officials and I asked him what he thought the difference was and he said ring fighting involves a ref and rules which are there to protect the fighters so they can focus on the competition of winning, strategies, etc. In the street there are no boundries and you have to be prepared menatlly in a different way. Perhaps this is why competitive fighters are calmer after the fight as it is a sport, a job not for their life.

muscleshark

30-10-2008, 04:27 PM

Oh spankmonkey,the reason why you quit fighting is you weren't a fighter to begin with, you got your ass handed to you and you didnt have the heart and now you have a chip on your shoulder the size of New York, and it bothers the shit out of you that when a fighter chimes in on a fighting topic you feel you need to one up him out of pure jealousy, cause you are a failure, but you still think you got the thunder, and you don't want me to take it from you, and you know it. You are a joke. And a total ****in tool. Get a life. Oh and btw, Mike Myle's rejects usually go over to Red Dear and try to fight under Lyle Cheney, look him up. He prolly wouldnt train your weak willed ass niether.

natenator

30-10-2008, 04:34 PM

muscleshark/spankmonkey: Shut The **** UP!

Take it to PM if you wanna look like monkey's humping a football.

Thanks :)

turboturist

30-10-2008, 07:14 PM

muscleshark/spankmonkey: Shut The **** UP!

Take it to PM if you wanna look like monkey's humping a football.

Thanks :)

lol, I was about to say something similar but a little more diplomatically. :)

spankmonkey

30-10-2008, 07:18 PM

Gib

30-10-2008, 09:38 PM

Dwayne Carter

01-11-2008, 10:19 PM

It looked more like a cat playing with a mouse to me. The respect that was shown was cool for sure.

I think Cote did pretty good and agree if you understand the striking game its easier to appreciate what he did. There was no respect on Silva's part, infact the opposite .

turboturist

01-11-2008, 10:40 PM

There was no respect on Silva's part, infact the opposite .

So the bowing and hand shaking was disrespectful then?

Dwayne Carter

02-11-2008, 12:10 PM

I was talking about how he acted in the fight. Tbh looked like he was going thru the motions by bowing and handshaking. There should be another fight were Silva can prove that he can knock Cote out because he wasn't able to do it that one.

muscleshark

06-11-2008, 08:02 PM

MS, what events have you fought in? If you have been active in MMA for 7 years you and I have probably either crossed paths, or have a few training partners in common. WHo do you train with currently?

Was training with the Gracie Barra team in Alberta under Josh Russel at the start, then when I moved back to BC, I had to get surgery on my shoulder from my last MMA fight, so I took a coula years off, then when I got back in I was just ****ing around at a Boxing gym in Surrey called Titan Fitness under Kalib Starnes, which at the time had no ****ing clue to who he was until a friend of mine got him to shoot a video of Kalib and him doing a full out jujitsu match, and sent it to the UFC, and from there he went on to the Ultimate FIghter 3 or was it 4? I forgot. Then that joint shut down so I joined Marcus Soares BJJ and went to Revolution Fight Team and between there and privatly training with friends for awhile, and now I am between joints, re-injured myself again, as Im sure yall know how that goes in this game. But yeah dude, send me a pm and we can shoot the shit, sorry Ive been away for a while, so thats why the response took so long.