View Full Version : Anyone ever get tired of this?
natenator
23-10-2008, 11:39 AM
Starting to really consider whether I want to continue in this kinf of lifestyle any longer. Don't get me wrong, I LOVE to train but I am sick of eating (love food but hate eating) to the point where I'd just rather drink shakes, tired of being one of the bigger guys around, tired of competing, tired!
I think its the eating and being big that's getting tiresome. Offseason I sit around 310lbs with 18% BF (yeah I know... higer than I'd like but whatevs. I can take it off when needed). Tired (even when dieted down) of having to buy pants where the waist is a size or two bigger so that my legs fit into them (31" quads), tired of having custom made suits and shirts because buying something that fits my chest/shoulders/back/arms (jacket size is 56") is baggy on my waist.
Tired of having to wait for chicks to approach me because if *I* do the approaching it feels intimidating for them. Yet oddly enough, getting chicks is not that difficult.
Just tired of being a freak I think LOL
But... being this big is a bit of an ego boost. Even though I don't comprehend my size (body dismorphia) I know I am bigger than the average dude and it's a bit of an ego boost to be one of the bigger and stronger guys in a gym, at a club, or pretty much anywhere EXCEPT a bodybuilding/powerlifting show. LOL
Anyone ever feel like living a more "normal" lifestyle?
Whats a normal life style? eating at mcdonalds and being a fat ass? If you are gifted with genetics and the ability to train then why not make yourself the best you can be. I love it. Just take a month or 2 off completely sometime and then get back again.
natenator
23-10-2008, 01:18 PM
Whats a normal life style? eating at mcdonalds and being a fat ass? If you are gifted with genetics and the ability to train then why not make yourself the best you can be. I love it. Just take a month or 2 off completely sometime and then get back again.
of the people I know who live a relatively "normal" lifestyle not many eat junk, are fat asses , etc.
Like I said, training is still a passion, just not all the encompasses it that much anymore.
When I go on vacation I through diet/training out the window it feels good to do it sometimes. You take many vacations? I try and go to the carribean atleast twice per year. I`m hitting Cuba at the end of my cycle in december right before christmas.
natenator
23-10-2008, 01:26 PM
When I go on vacation I through diet/training out the window it feels good to do it sometimes. You take many vacations? I try and go to the carribean atleast twice per year. I`m hitting Cuba at the end of my cycle in december right before christmas.
I don't train to look good for other people. I don't compete to look good for other people. I do this for myself. Big difference. I take 6 weeks of vacation every year. 4 of those are spent traveling.
If I did not compete I would not use gear. Maybe GH, only to help with tendons and injuries otherwise I'd have no need.
Big D
23-10-2008, 01:27 PM
I feel like that to sometimes natenator, I wonder often if its worth it,,, thats usualy when i'm off cycle,,
natenator
23-10-2008, 01:29 PM
I feel like that to sometimes natenator, I wonder often if its worth it,,, thats usualy when i'm off cycle,,
LOL. ON is when I most feel like saying **** it. Like ****kk.... mooore food, heavier training, bulking. blah blah blah lol **** me another god damn meal? argh! hah
pseclint
23-10-2008, 01:31 PM
yea man its a tiring game, a much needed break is always appreciated.... i would say take some time off from it and just lead your "normal" lifestyle because you can always come back to being a freak man.....
You are a lucky sob to get 6 weeks vacation per year. I get 11 vacation days per year untiil I reach 5 years at my place of employment (thats 2 years off still) then they add 5 days wow lol. I find training takes my mind off of work and even now im at work killing time on this site :)
natenator
23-10-2008, 02:21 PM
You are a lucky sob to get 6 weeks vacation per year. I get 11 vacation days per year untiil I reach 5 years at my place of employment (thats 2 years off still) then they add 5 days wow lol. I find training takes my mind off of work and even now im at work killing time on this site :)
the joys being in demand and being able to negotiate what YOU want vs. what an employer is willing to give you ;)
Yeah I definitely wish ther ewas something else I could do but the job I do is lucrative and there is no replacement job I can just jump to at the current time. My wife is in school one more year until then I`m the one who brings home the bacon.
Big D
23-10-2008, 03:01 PM
Mmmmmmmmmmmm bacon
Rhinobolt10
23-10-2008, 03:55 PM
I'm sick of eating to gain weight, sick of the constant joint pain in my elbows and knees and ankles, sick of being sick for a month after a meet, sick of being run down for a few days after a heavy deadlift day.
Other than that... I F'ing love it
Ritch
23-10-2008, 04:49 PM
Well I can`t sympasize with being as big as you are... But sure I get tired of having to restrain myselft so much. Last night we were having a going away supper for a work buddy, and after supper they all went out to a bar. I really felt like going, but knew that today is chest/shoulder day... But I took pride in being a good example to my friend c`ause he said if I would have gone, he would have...
There is something that is just insane about what we do. Being run down for days and self inflictedly so... after a leg or dead lift day, it`s a calling we all have inside of us to be bigger and better than we once were. You really have hit the upper scale my friend being to the point were you have to find special clothes and all. It`s almost like there is no going back in this activity, I`ve never settled for being smaller than I once was that`s why I choose for now not to use gear. But don`t you think you`d still be huge if you weighed less? You can in a sense afford to loose size and still be biggger than life to most, I can`t, that`s why I can`t take my own advice here and have no choice but to go on...
I think to scale back in your case it will take a total different way of seeing life to make the change and comfortably so. Feeling like you do now for weeks and months on end before taking action. The longest I`ve ever been sick of the lifestyle is maybe a week but I know there is a week off planned in my training every 8-10 weeks so it`s not something I really have to deal with for extended periods of time. Obviously even if you wanted to take time off when competing you could not apply these kinds of principles, that`s why if I were you I`d make the choice not to. I hope I don`t get shit for saying this by the competitors, I just find there is little reward in doing so for giving so much, but if it`s your calling I respect that, just don`t understand it. But doing so I beleive will put you in a state like now, finding what you`ve accomplished problematic, because if you didn`t compete you would not have taken it this far. Hope this makes sense.
natenator
23-10-2008, 05:01 PM
Well I can`t sympasize with being as big as you are... But sure I get tired of having to restrain myselft so much. Last night we were having a going away supper for a work buddy, and after supper they all went out to a bar. I really felt like going, but knew that today is chest/shoulder day... But I took pride in being a good example to my friend c`ause he said if I would have gone, he would have...
There is something that is just insane about what we do. Being run down for days and self inflictedly so... after a leg or dead lift day, it`s a calling we all have inside of us to be bigger and better than we once were. You really have hit the upper scale my friend being to the point were you have to find special clothes and all. It`s almost like there is no going back in this activity, I`ve never settled for being smaller than I once was that`s why I choose for now not to use gear. But don`t you think you`d still be huge if you weighed less? You can in a sense afford to loose size and still be biggger than life to most, I can`t, that`s why I can`t take my own advice here and have no choice but to go on...
I think to scale back in your case it will take a total different way of seeing life to make the change and comfortably so. Feeling like you do now for weeks and months on end before taking action. The longest I`ve ever been sick of the lifestyle is maybe a week but I know there is a week off planned in my training every 8-10 weeks so it`s not something I really have to deal with for extended periods of time. Obviously even if you wanted to take time off when competing you could not apply these kinds of principles, that`s why if I were you I`d make the choice not to. I hope I don`t get shit for saying this by the competitors, I just find there is little reward in doing so for giving so much, but if it`s your calling I respect that, just don`t understand it. But doing so I beleive will put you in a state like now, finding what you`ve accomplished problematic, because if you didn`t compete you would not have taken it this far. Hope this makes sense.
Actually, I am not big because of juice. I have a large frame to begin with PLUS when I started training I have a group of guys in my gym take me under their wing and teach me about proper training techniques, form and nutrition. I have since gained better knowedge to grow even further through the hiring of nutritionalist and knowing my body. I only started gassing at the age of 29 (3 years ago).
You're right in that I can drop the weight but I only know how to drop weight to lean up on a competitive stage. I don't know how to drop weight for the sake of just dropping weight because as a competitor you are trying to spare every ounce of muslce that you can. Do I go to eating 2000 calories/day for an indefinite period of time while doing crazy ass cardio? **** if I know how to get smaller LOL.
I got sick twice this year getting ready for a show. The first time was the flu and that killed me for 3 weeks. Way NO way I could have pushed on. The second time I got a cold which knocked me out for a week along with the appetite and I COULD have probably rushed it but I pulled out. I honestly don't think my heart is in competing anymore OR doing this so that I can continue to get bigger because I don't want to keep getting bigger. It blows lol
Anyway... I only put up the thread to see if others start to question why they do this to the extreme that they do? Training will never die but I guess I need to find a different purpose for training... maybe go back to athletics (where my purpose for training all began) and start playing hockey, football, soccer or whatever else I can do? Who knows.
Maybe I'm just in a mood :) lol
spankmonkey
23-10-2008, 05:23 PM
I think it is normal to become tired of consistently being routine. I am curious about goals. You said you do not lift for anyone but you and if you did not compete you would not use AAS. So why do you do it then? If it is not to look good, feel good or acheive some goal why do it? Just thinking out loud, but maybe when we begin to question why we do the things we do there is a loss of direction?
Just some random thoughts. For me I got in BB because I have always wanted to compete but could never commit the time and money required. I have also always wanted to make people puke when they see vascularity and oversized muscles with freakish definition. I am a people watcher, so I find it funny to deal with peoples reactions.
So for me, when I struggle to stuff my face I think of why I am doing it in the first place and it helps me to get another steak and potato meal in. JM2C
physique
23-10-2008, 07:14 PM
i feel your pain bro. i am no where near your size, but i changed what i wanted to do 2 years ago now. i have stopped gear(highly unlikely it will be forever) and started playing sports again. bodybuilding and its lifestyle were taking up to much of my spare time. my life was suffering. couldnt go out becauase i had to train the next day. 1 can only live there life that way for so long.
i still train, and eat well. but more to maintain what i got. i know someday i will go back to everything, but for now i enjoy playing baseball and hockey again.
Ritch
23-10-2008, 07:25 PM
Well if you started to play some sports and ate less I guess you`d lose some size. It would indirectly affect your ability to train in the gym due to fatigue. That`s why I always quit team sports as a teen, greedy me... Not sure I see you playing soccer lol. And if you`re unhappy with the way you look, you an always gain it back. Good to hear you`ll always train. Even in moments of doubt we always know we will continue, we just question at what level. If you really want to lose some size you could always hire Richard Simmons as a personal trainer.
natenator
24-10-2008, 07:48 AM
I think it is normal to become tired of consistently being routine. I am curious about goals. You said you do not lift for anyone but you and if you did not compete you would not use AAS. So why do you do it then? If it is not to look good, feel good or acheive some goal why do it? Just thinking out loud, but maybe when we begin to question why we do the things we do there is a loss of direction?
Just some random thoughts. For me I got in BB because I have always wanted to compete but could never commit the time and money required. I have also always wanted to make people puke when they see vascularity and oversized muscles with freakish definition. I am a people watcher, so I find it funny to deal with peoples reactions.
So for me, when I struggle to stuff my face I think of why I am doing it in the first place and it helps me to get another steak and potato meal in. JM2C
Thanks bro. Why do I do it? Because I like to challenge and push myself. Competing to me is rough. My body type is not conducive to competing or dieting down but I get it done anyway. I do this to challenge and push myself beyond what I believe my limits may be.
Like I said tho... being big is a helluva ego boost. Would be interesting to see how I could mentally handle being permenantly smaller without the fact I'm smaller because I am dieted down fo a show.
Ritch
24-10-2008, 10:36 AM
Here`s my why do I do it: When I was 5 years old I used to draw myself as being big doing a front double biceps. My mom still has the picture. It`s weird. Back then not knowing anything about bodybuilding I just knew some day I`d be big. This was even before thinking that girls would like a built man, which in turned out to be not so true. Would even mess with my dad weights from around that age. So that`s why I do it, it`s purely in my instincts and blood.
Doctor Sinister
24-10-2008, 11:21 AM
i feel your pain bro. i am no where near your size, but i changed what i wanted to do 2 years ago now. i have stopped gear(highly unlikely it will be forever) and started playing sports again. bodybuilding and its lifestyle were taking up to much of my spare time. my life was suffering. couldnt go out becauase i had to train the next day. 1 can only live there life that way for so long.
i still train, and eat well. but more to maintain what i got. i know someday i will go back to everything, but for now i enjoy playing baseball and hockey again.
That's exactly what I do now the only difference is that I'm playing volleyball and basketball instead :)
RagingRandy
24-10-2008, 11:43 AM
As guys I think we are generally driven by goals. If you do not have any further goals in mind it is hard to stay focussed and\or justify the lifestyle. Being huge for the sake of being huge I do not think is enough of a motivator to keep going.
If you wanted to be the next Mr. Olympia you would have a goal to work towards and therefore be able to maintain focus. All athletes especially top athletes end up at this point at some time.
To have a "normal" life it needs to be balanced. Spending every waking hour in the gym and watching every calorie that goes into your mouth is not "normal". Both of these things have social implications. You need to decide what you want more and do it.
Good luck with your decision.
Offseason I sit around 310lbs with 18% BF (yeah I know... higer than I'd like but whatevs. I can take it off when needed).
the world is in a sad state when 300 lb men start using the word "whatevs".....
If you do everything for yourself, and if you arent happy with the things you are doing, then its time for you to change things up!
Want to push yourself? Seta different goal. Do a half triathalon or marathon, start a new sport, set a new goal. Take a few months or years away from hardcore BBing and expand your life a bit. If you find you miss BBing at that level then you can always go back into the gym the same day and get back to being the biggest guy around.
Lifes to short to do the same old thing if you arent happy in it, wether thats a career, relationship, or a pass time....
michealJ
26-10-2008, 08:22 AM
wow your one BIG MOFO,
I can’t speak to being bigger then everyone around ..Cause I’m not even close! But to the life style ...... I have just changed a lot and lost some weight muscle too but that happens I guess.
I have being trying the crossfit deal its pretty good and a welcomed change for me.
Cheers
Starting to really consider whether I want to continue in this kinf of lifestyle any longer. Don't get me wrong, I LOVE to train but I am sick of eating (love food but hate eating) to the point where I'd just rather drink shakes, tired of being one of the bigger guys around, tired of competing, tired!
I think its the eating and being big that's getting tiresome. Offseason I sit around 310lbs with 18% BF (yeah I know... higer than I'd like but whatevs. I can take it off when needed). Tired (even when dieted down) of having to buy pants where the waist is a size or two bigger so that my legs fit into them (31" quads), tired of having custom made suits and shirts because buying something that fits my chest/shoulders/back/arms (jacket size is 56") is baggy on my waist.
Tired of having to wait for chicks to approach me because if *I* do the approaching it feels intimidating for them. Yet oddly enough, getting chicks is not that difficult.
Just tired of being a freak I think LOL
But... being this big is a bit of an ego boost. Even though I don't comprehend my size (body dismorphia) I know I am bigger than the average dude and it's a bit of an ego boost to be one of the bigger and stronger guys in a gym, at a club, or pretty much anywhere EXCEPT a bodybuilding/powerlifting show. LOL
Anyone ever feel like living a more "normal" lifestyle?
AlladdinSane
26-10-2008, 02:33 PM
Dude... A fellow 300 lber here (@ 5'8" no less!) so i can sympathize... I've been small and it blows. Dieting is for the birds.
Don't get me wrong, health and mobility are important so I'll perform best @ about 265ish, so I'll be dropping to that weight, but that's still kinda big...
Strongman training. Put some effort in that direction and you'll realize why you were put on earth. :D
natenator
27-10-2008, 11:40 AM
Dude... A fellow 300 lber here (@ 5'8" no less!) so i can sympathize... I've been small and it blows. Dieting is for the birds.
Don't get me wrong, health and mobility are important so I'll perform best @ about 265ish, so I'll be dropping to that weight, but that's still kinda big...
Strongman training. Put some effort in that direction and you'll realize why you were put on earth. :D
LOL 5'8? JESUS!
Yeah, 265 is a good weight for me. I feel and look good at that weight but it's still pretty damn big given its a "lean" weight and not necessarily less muscle/size. lol
natenator
29-10-2008, 10:44 AM
So I think I've decided I'm just gonna coast for a bit. Eat only when I feel hungry and use mostly shakes instead of whole meals as much as possible.
Lighten up the volume/poundages on the weights and throw in some running and cardio of the like for now. Thinking I'd like to play some basketball, hockey and flag football this winter so I'll need to drop some BF while adding in cardio conditioning. And? I'm going to enjoy going out and having drinks and stuff with people again. I sorta alienated myself from this a lot.
So basically... I am taking a good break from the true bodybuilder lifestyle that was getting to me.
Thanks to all for their input. Perspective is a nice thing... afterall, I have zero intentions of ever going pro or even to Nationals so why bother training and living like I am? :)
AlladdinSane
29-10-2008, 12:12 PM
;)
ironwill
29-10-2008, 01:27 PM
Dude... A fellow 300 lber here (@ 5'8" no less!) so i can sympathize... I've been small and it blows. Dieting is for the birds.
Don't get me wrong, health and mobility are important so I'll perform best @ about 265ish, so I'll be dropping to that weight, but that's still kinda big...
Strongman training. Put some effort in that direction and you'll realize why you were put on earth. :D
holyyyy....ur a big biatch.....
255 -260 is a good weight for me at six feet tall....Im looking for ward to mtg you and SD as soon as we get settled in...
Nate...
I wrote the exact topic at musclenexus about 6 months ago...I was sick of the lifestyle and all the eating and training i was doing and i was at around 270-280 at the time i believe...It was a tough time for me...I actually got unreal sick after that and was off work and out of the gym for 9 weeks...Like bed bound, couldnt even make it to my dr apptmnts and catscan etc appts without damn near dying and throwing up,my GF had to get me there basically etc...Crazy..
So now i lost a bit of weight and am Feeling great and back on track once again, I am not ever getting up to the 280 mark again...I wasnt that fat either...maybe 15 or so percent at most...It took a toll on me and i feel so much better now..
It wasnt the cycling or anything related, at most i took 750-1000 mgs of test prior to being sick...they still dont know for sure what it was, it was a vestibular upset caused by???
I sit around 250-260 now and will stay around there and make solid , slower gains that i can without all that extra weight...I am not as strong as i was, but my endurance and recovery are much better , so i can hit things twice a week now...
Good luck on your decision Natenator...
Take care.
AlladdinSane
29-10-2008, 01:34 PM
holyyyy....ur a big biatch.....
255 -260 is a good weight for me at six feet tall....Im looking for ward to mtg you and SD as soon as we get settled in...
The pleasure will all be on this side of the table.
Guaranteed... lol
Are you two here yet?
ironwill
29-10-2008, 01:40 PM
tomorrow, and unload Friday...wooot..:wtf
AlladdinSane
29-10-2008, 02:00 PM
Good luck you two!
gordi
29-10-2008, 02:50 PM
I posted some thoughts on this thread in my blog in the LG section.
Basically, I think agree that it's a good idea to take a break once in a while to renew your enthusiasm. The danger in taking a break is that you can let yourself go. If you keep pushing yourself after your enthusiasm runs out, though, you run the risk of burning yourself out. Training hard and eating right should be something you do for your whole life. I'd rather back off a little once in a while if it lets me keep doing it for years and years.
Some nice thoughts in this thread.
spankmonkey
29-10-2008, 02:59 PM
So I think I've decided I'm just gonna coast for a bit. Eat only when I feel hungry and use mostly shakes instead of whole meals as much as possible.
Lighten up the volume/poundages on the weights and throw in some running and cardio of the like for now. Thinking I'd like to play some basketball, hockey and flag football this winter so I'll need to drop some BF while adding in cardio conditioning. And? I'm going to enjoy going out and having drinks and stuff with people again. I sorta alienated myself from this a lot.
So basically... I am taking a good break from the true bodybuilder lifestyle that was getting to me.
Thanks to all for their input. Perspective is a nice thing... afterall, I have zero intentions of ever going pro or even to Nationals so why bother training and living like I am? :)
Nice!
wrought
29-10-2008, 03:11 PM
Just take a break. This is my first year without dieting or competing in almost 5 years and it's great. I can eat what I want, skip a day if I'm feeling worn down, and not stress over my training/eating/supplementation.
Sure, I'll go back to living that life when I am able but I'm finding that now that bb'ing isn't central to my life I enjoy it (bb'ing) a lot more. :)
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