Oil jobs in alberta?

[Durk]

So anywho I am sitting around here in Ontario in a dead end job. I am still young and want to go to University, so I was thinking maybe I could do this for a couple of years to save up some money? I think even with the hookers and booze I should come out with some coin.

Does anyone hear know how to get employed? I have no related education right now so the only employment that I am likely to get is bitch work wich is fine as long as its worth my while.

[micronian]

shit bro, i was looking into this also myself a while ago... not sure if im still going to do it, but there is definitely good money to be made up in Fort Macmurray aka fort Make Money ... i read its possible to cash out 1000 bucks a day there.

if you get more details let me know, usually you gotta call up the energy companies to see which are hiring / have positions for Roughshod or whatever general labourer is called over there.. there is tonnes of work there bro. good luck and keep me posted!

< M >

[ZeOne]

i read its possible to cash out 1000 bucks a day there.


Well if you are a engineer with experience, then definitly...but do not expect 1000$ a day for an entry level position of any kind with no experience, even in Fort Mcmurray. Also do not forget to factor in cost of housing, food, and utilities which is much more expensive than most Canadian cities.

[Durk]

shit bro, i was looking into this also myself a while ago... not sure if im still going to do it, but there is definitely good money to be made up in Fort Macmurray aka fort Make Money ... i read its possible to cash out 1000 bucks a day there.

if you get more details let me know, usually you gotta call up the energy companies to see which are hiring / have positions for Roughshod or whatever general labourer is called over there.. there is tonnes of work there bro. good luck and keep me posted!

< M >

I have friends in who recently moved to Fort Macmurray. Might hit them up to see what I can find.

[Durk]

Well if you are a engineer with experience, then definitly...but do not expect 1000$ a day for an entry level position of any kind with no experience, even in Fort Mcmurray. Also do not forget to factor in cost of housing, food, and utilities which is much more expensive than most Canadian cities.

I have heard that 60G's a year is average for entry level? If lodgings like camp are reasonable then it doesnt sound too bad.

[Bowlcut]

It is going to be hard to find a job in Fort McMurray right now. There is a general slow down and with natural gas prices and oil being half of what they were 3 months ago there is little incentive to drill when input costs are so high.

My buddies worked for Phelps Drilling. Try googling it, but I think now is the perfect time to go back to school. That way the economy will hopefully recover when you are done.
A skill or education is what is going to give you an advantage in today's environment.

[Durk]

It is going to be hard to find a job in Fort McMurray right now. There is a general slow down and with natural gas prices and oil being half of what they were 3 months ago there is little incentive to drill when input costs are so high.

My buddies worked for Phelps Drilling. Try googling it, but I think now is the perfect time to go back to school. That way the economy will hopefully recover when you are done.
A skill or education is what is going to give you an advantage in today's environment.

That will be hard when I already have 25G's in student loans to pay off already lol

[spankmonkey]

Being from the oil and gas side and one who interviews and hires many I will make this suggestion.
Get the following certificates before you come out. H2S Alive - one day course, Standard First Aid - two day course and CSTS/PST - computer based course which will take about one day.
These are basic courses for the industry.
If you want drilling or service rigs get out here and start banging doors, cause that is how you will get hired. I get resumes from all over Canada and unless someone is living here and has reliable transportation I will not consider them.
Entry level 60-70K not hard too find, but expect to work away from any city for about 20-30 days at a time, no gym, camp food.

[Durk]

Being from the oil and gas side and one who interviews and hires many I will make this suggestion.
Get the following certificates before you come out. H2S Alive - one day course, Standard First Aid - two day course and CSTS/PST - computer based course which will take about one day.
These are basic courses for the industry.
If you want drilling or service rigs get out here and start banging doors, cause that is how you will get hired. I get resumes from all over Canada and unless someone is living here and has reliable transportation I will not consider them.
Entry level 60-70K not hard too find, but expect to work away from any city for about 20-30 days at a time, no gym, camp food.


Dont really care about the gyms and food as long as im not poor lol. I have the first aid course but never heard of the first and third. I will look them up. I have reliable transportation, and possibly a place to stay in FT Macmurray so does that mean I am hired lol?

[Houstonbc]

you need to have those courses before you even think of applying, 2 of my buddies in the month of july made over 10 000 clear working every day long days. Not my cup of tea but lots of guys do it. If you got a truck theyll pay you to use it (quite a bit too i think) if your in the ****in boonies you also get an extra 150 or so a day plus you pay nothing to live in camp or to eat. I drive by a sign advertising hiring for roughnecks everyday ill get the name and # tomorrow and post it on here

[Durk]

I will work 24/7 without sleep if they would let me. Who says money doesnt buy happyness. I was also told the women in Fort Macmurray are all FUGLY compared to back here. Atleast I will have less distractions lol

[Houstonbc]

you would wanna get into a camp and not live in ft mcmurray

[Durk]

True dat

[ironwill]

FT mac was good, and is still good, gas doesnt affect the oilsands as much as it does the gas sector, there are tonnes of jobs there still...i have buddies leaving everyweek to get out there..I dont go there anymore, as i did that for 13 yrs or so, and am a trades manager and was in charge of hiring etc. etc...lots of eastocoasterners are moving back east for big jobs out there, so it aint drying up, by any stretch..
I do well doing what i do now, but the experiences of working with big crews up north are what got me to where i am now....So go just for the experience if nothing else, and you can make good scratch up there...
trades have it made.....Fly in fly out to various airports etc....My brother does it still and so do many of my friends...
expensive is an understatement...

[Houstonbc]

the company hiring roughnecks i posted about is called nabors there was no phone number

[Shortdave]

I will help you find a job if you legally change your name to Wes Tosterone.

[ironwill]

I will help you find a job if you legally change your name to Wes Tosterone.

Hey Dave, i will give you a soft job...why dont you work away at it until it gets hard....wooot...:lick:ji

[vazsek]

the company hiring roughnecks i posted about is called nabors there was no phone number

did a little research :)

Nabors Drilling (Canada)
2800, 500 - 4th Avenue SW
Calgary, Alberta, Canada T2P 2V6
Phone: (403) 263-6777
Fax: (403) 269-7352



http://www.canadianwellsite.com/
some listing etc, kinda usefull sight

[pseclint]

i have a ton of buddies in the oil industry that can get you a job on a rig.... mite be in Lloydminster or Red Deer but its still a job..... you start at 26.50 an hour working 12 hour days, 4 hours of overtime..... sick cash if you wanna do it, long as days......

[ironwill]

i have a ton of buddies in the oil industry that can get you a job on a rig.... mite be in Lloydminster or Red Deer but its still a job..... you start at 26.50 an hour working 12 hour days, 4 hours of overtime..... sick cash if you wanna do it, long as days......

good to hear i thought things were getting slower out in that area....Good if it is not...
a good friend of mine owns his own rig, yeah, he is rich...lol...but anyway, he just contacted me and said he is in oklahoma with his rig and his crew...yet he lives in Calgary...i will have to ask him why he is over that way....

[Bowlcut]

good to hear i thought things were getting slower out in that area....Good if it is not...
a good friend of mine owns his own rig, yeah, he is rich...lol...but anyway, he just contacted me and said he is in oklahoma with his rig and his crew...yet he lives in Calgary...i will have to ask him why he is over that way....

Simple. He can drill year round in Oklahoma whereas in Alberta during the spring the ground can get too wet to move rigs over.

At $70 a barrel oilsands do not make financial sense for companies. I have heard that the cost to produce one barrel of oil in tarsands is at least $55.

The market has more to go until it is at the bottom, but I would suggest that who ever has some cash laying around get ready to put it into energy stocks, agriculture, and Canadian banks with their nice dividends.

[Ritch]

I wouldn`t last a week!

[Rhinobolt10]

Hey man, if you're looking to go back to school I'd honestly look into the canadian military. I'm not sure how people on the board feel about it, but some of my buddies are in and they just love it. My one friend is in Uni, and he gets his school paid for now, and draws a salary when he's in school. He did have to sign a lengthy contract, so that was the only downside I saw.
Another friend is full time, and he loves it too. He never went to school just right into the military. Actually I haven't met anyone who doesn't love it. I considered it very seriously, as the lifestyle sounds very appealing to me. I decided against it, but it's always nice to know I have that as a fall back if things ever get really bad.

[Ritch]

Hey man, if you're looking to go back to school I'd honestly look into the canadian military. I'm not sure how people on the board feel about it, but some of my buddies are in and they just love it. My one friend is in Uni, and he gets his school paid for now, and draws a salary when he's in school. He did have to sign a lengthy contract, so that was the only downside I saw.
Another friend is full time, and he loves it too. He never went to school just right into the military. Actually I haven't met anyone who doesn't love it. I considered it very seriously, as the lifestyle sounds very appealing to me. I decided against it, but it's always nice to know I have that as a fall back if things ever get really bad.

That would be a good idea. The military has gotten much softer now, boot camp being a breez. My dad did 35 years and the conditions are good.

[turboturist]

There is about half of the rigs in Canada working right now and a bunch of them are shutting down because of the Diesel shortage and the price of Oil dropping by 50&#37;.

Drilling Rig Companies
http://www.caodc.ca/PDF/Drilling_Rig_Contractors_Employ.pdf

Service Rig Companies
http://www.caodc.ca/PDF/SR_Employ-Contractors_Oct07.pdf

[ironwill]

There is about half of the rigs in Canada working right now and a bunch of them are shutting down because of the Diesel shortage and the price of Oil dropping by 50%.

Drilling Rig Companies
http://www.caodc.ca/PDF/Drilling_Rig_Contractors_Employ.pdf

Service Rig Companies
http://www.caodc.ca/PDF/SR_Employ-Contractors_Oct07.pdf

That makes sense...I still havent talked to my friend as ive been busy, but i cant see him being down there for any other reason than not much work at home now...He is from Calgary area..he informed me he will be around a lot for awhile...???
Doesnt sound good ..

[turboturist]

That makes sense...I still havent talked to my friend as ive been busy, but i cant see him being down there for any other reason than not much work at home now...He is from Calgary area..he informed me he will be around a lot for awhile...???
Doesnt sound good ..

I am very glad to being working overseas right now for sure.

[noneck73]

Hey guys! For a young guys there's plenty of opportunities here in SASK. and yet quite abit cheaper to live here than in Alberta. Look into it ! Saskjobs.ca? I think.

[ironwill]

Hey guys! For a young guys there's plenty of opportunities here in SASK. and yet quite abit cheaper to live here than in Alberta. Look into it ! Saskjobs.ca? I think.

not that much cheaper than AB right now....lots of work though......for right now..at least,,if you are in the trades mostly..

[Anatomy]

most of the drilling in AB is for gas [not oil] and drilling has increased over the last year... nowhere near the peak activity levels of a couple of years ago, but increasing. Jobs have increased substantially, income has increased substantially, exports and consumer spending have all been increasing in Alberta. That said, if you are a lazy-ass with no intelligence you will not find or keep work right now [unlike a year or 2 ago where anyone with a pulse would qualify for raises]

[turboturist]

Overall you are correct but right at this moment things are slowing down. You cant even get Diesel at a pump let alone enough to run a rig so things are shutting down. It is temporary but its happening.

[Anatomy]

the pace of growth has slowed... things are not growing as quickly as they did but they are still growing in a positive direction. Things are growing at more sustainable rates right now. Another way to say that is the slow down you are referring to is a slowing of growth not a slowing of the economy [in AB anyway]

supply and demand will bring new refining capacity for products like diesel

[turboturist]

I guess you missed the slowing down temporarily part.

Things will pick back up again as soon as they have fuel for the iron and as you said hopefully it grows and a sustainable pace rather that the feast famine that is typical in the patch.

[Anatomy]

nope, didn't miss anything. I was just elaborating to people who might not be on the same page that the AB economy is still growing today, just at a slower pace than it had. I hope it keeps up; most signs point to energy staying strong so I think AB will be ok. The low dollar is definitely helping.

[ironwill]

We are just moving to AB, and im liking the lower house prices and deals we are watching...This trend will continue for awhile....The jobs are plentiful in AB still...We are in Trades and Safety mgmnt so its the place to go...Ive been holding out and not going back to AB, but now is the time as far as realestate goes, actually we wont be buying for awhile yet as i think the housing in AB is taking a pretty big correction for another yr at least., but we get housing 75% paid for in Southern AB, not fort mac...The good industries know how to attract good people in this boom in AB..
If i were any young Guy right now i would be getting into the trades...Metal trades more or mechanical trades, and get dual ticketed if able..You can basically write your own deal...actually even an old guy, if you have skills and dont mind going back to school big bucks to be had..

The drilling sector sucks right now but as TT said it is only temporary...

[thundercat900]

If you are willing to work loads of overtime being a labourer then you can make some money.. Alot of friends I have went out and ended up toying with rec drugs to keep up with the pace and now have silly habits.. Also if you arent in a camp then its too costly.. its a big joke for the most part.. Its no gold rush.. just another wage for a average person.

[lights_out]

If you are willing to work loads of overtime being a labourer then you can make some money.. Alot of friends I have went out and ended up toying with rec drugs to keep up with the pace and now have silly habits.. Also if you arent in a camp then its too costly.. its a big joke for the most part.. Its no gold rush.. just another wage for a average person.


Agreed alot of my buddies from high school have just come back and said the same thing. Good money but really high cost of living and most of them spent it all on god knows what while they were there.

[Born2Juice4Ever]

I've also done a lot of research on the oil rigs....this thread offers great advice, it really does.
The licensing and permits, courses that need to be taken and such/

But I am seeing that at best a person can make 60-70k in one year busting their asses working like a slave...12 hours straight, 24 days out of a month...I don't think it is worth ever even thinking about heading out there for what I think is pennies.

I have heard from numerous sources that money can amount to over 100K in the clear...how achievable is that for an entry job??

Hey I would bust my hump for 12 months if at the end I was bringing home 100K clear. Would you not?

At this point in time, I guess being that we are almost in winter, I would think that there are LESS jobs out West, than would be available early in the spring.


B2J

[Houstonbc]

wrong theres more jobs now that its frozen and less in the spring because the roads turn to mud

[warlock]

..
If i were any young Guy right now i would be getting into the trades...Metal trades more or mechanical trades, and get dual ticketed if able..You can basically write your own deal...actually even an old guy, if you have skills and dont mind going back to school big bucks to be had..

The drilling sector sucks right now but as TT said it is only temporary...

How much is a big buck?
Doing what?
For how long?

Thanks

[Houstonbc]

bottom of the barrel on a rig i think is 26.50/hr right now but you are workin 12hr days everyday so you make a bunch of overtime,
a month straight in a camp green you could probly bring home $8000 clear if you went hard

[Born2Juice4Ever]

bottom of the barrel on a rig i think is 26.50/hr right now but you are workin 12hr days everyday so you make a bunch of overtime,
a month straight in a camp green you could probly bring home $8000 clear if you went hard


NOW that's more like it!! If I am going to leave my friends, my life, family....gym, protein powder, hotel room get-aways....clean nails, blackberry and sharp black shoes, I will do it for 8K per month NO matter what!

That money can amount to a great deal in just 12 months..then you call it quits, use that, plus whatever you have an open up a franchize or your own business...you are set.

but for 60K>>????I am close to making that here, in the comfort of my own city with all the perks.


B2J

[Houstonbc]

yeah you cant work every day for 12 months though B2J you would be so messed up. Alot of my buddies say they start to go super crazy after being in a camp for anything over a month. You dont see any women as long as youre there

[turboturist]

yeah you cant work every day for 12 months though B2J you would be so messed up. Alot of my buddies say they start to go super crazy after being in a camp for anything over a month. You dont see any women as long as youre there

@ 26/hr you make $364 a day as a lease hand, $560 a day as a driller (12hr plus OT) plus LOA (140 last I heard but you have to pay food, hotel etc out of that), or camp pay (50/day) if your in a camp which imo is better. You food shelter is paid for.

Keep in mind you make more even if your on the same rig if you work in BC than AB because of the ways they pay OT, and if your in camp its all the same anyways. The money is there to be made but don't expect it to be 12 months a year, it is very seasonal especially if you get a wet spring.

I did 9 weeks once in Northern BC and thought the peeps with the white huggy jackets were going to have to come to get me.

Then you get back to town with a bunch of cash and no sense of civilization left in you and it can be trouble, :)

[turboturist]

Here I looked it up for wages. If you take the hourly wage and multiply by 14 (12hr+OT) your pretty close to what it is plus your LOA, or camp pay.

http://www.caodc.ca/wages.htm

Less than half of the rigs in CA are working as of Nov 11.
http://www.caodc.ca/rigcounts.htm#wkwestdrill

[turboturist]

NOW that's more like it!! If I am going to leave my friends, my life, family....gym, protein powder, hotel room get-aways....clean nails, blackberry and sharp black shoes, I will do it for 8K per month NO matter what!

That money can amount to a great deal in just 12 months..then you call it quits, use that, plus whatever you have an open up a franchize or your own business...you are set.

but for 60K>>????I am close to making that here, in the comfort of my own city with all the perks.


B2J

Where is your sense of adventure? You one of the people that will live and die close to where you were born? ( not be sarcastic serious ? as most of the population are like this)

Cant make new friends? A different life? Maybe a family later on? And last time I checked there are gyms and protein powder out west as well.

One of the best things about moving around imo is the new friends you meet and make, shit I can go just about anywhere I want and have a place to stay, visit and catch up with old friends.

[warlock]

yeah you cant work every day for 12 months though B2J you would be so messed up. Alot of my buddies say they start to go super crazy after being in a camp for anything over a month. You dont see any women as long as youre there

**** where do I sign????:sexy

How do I get one of these jobs?

3 months/7 days a week/12hdays and bring back 24.000?

Bonus = tons of gay blown jobs....

[ironwill]

How much is a big buck?
Doing what?
For how long?

Thanks
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How much...well, where i am at, we pay the journeymen that work for me 38 dollars per hour......Millwright/welders are the trades i am in charge of...
I worked construction for many yrs and i worked usually 7 days per week and 12-14 hr days....I enjoyed it, but never again.....lol...One yr i only saw my house 2 days out of 365.....Thats right, i worked 363 days that yr....
Now i work 5 days and off 2, and i havent made less than 6 figures in many yrs now...but it took awhile to get up there....

[Born2Juice4Ever]

It is not sense of adventure that I lack.

In my early 20s I moved 8 hours from my city when Ibroke up with my high school sweetheart.
I had NO job lined up, gave up my friends, my job here in my city===packed my car and left town.
But if I am going to travel across Canada to work in the rigs, you can be sure I am going to line it all up for success--and then the feeling of or sense of adventure will be second in line.
I have a lot to lose if I make a wrong decision. A house, big overheads and so one.

For 60K?? No thank you

The vision that I have of the oil rig work, is that a person works 12 hours for over 20 days straight, you are tired out, feeling gloomy---you don't have too much time to socialize which is great IMO.
12 hours shifts take away roughly 15 hours of your day...you barely have time to get 8 hours of rest..and then what? Up for another.
THAT specific sense of adventure? I would love to have underlaying insurance that I will make 100k or more,but in the real world it is not like that. A chance is a chance and at best 50/50



B2J

B2J

[turboturist]

It is not sense of adventure that I lack.

In my early 20s I moved 8 hours from my city when Ibroke up with my high school sweetheart.
I had NO job lined up, gave up my friends, my job here in my city===packed my car and left town.
But if I am going to travel across Canada to work in the rigs, you can be sure I am going to line it all up for success--and then the feeling of or sense of adventure will be second in line.
I have a lot to lose if I make a wrong decision. A house, big overheads and so one.

For 60K?? No thank you

The vision that I have of the oil rig work, is that a person works 12 hours for over 20 days straight, you are tired out, feeling gloomy---you don't have too much time to socialize which is great IMO.
12 hours shifts take away roughly 15 hours of your day...you barely have time to get 8 hours of rest..and then what? Up for another.
THAT specific sense of adventure? I would love to have underlaying insurance that I will make 100k or more,but in the real world it is not like that. A chance is a chance and at best 50/50



B2J

B2J

I get where your coming man for sure, was teasing you and asking a question at the same time if that makes sense?

In a normal situation you work 14on 7off schedule, there are opportunities to work more if the company likes you or are desperate. You can always pick up work on your "long change" if you like.

But the roads are def not paved with gold like a lot of people from out east come here expecting.

Your days are not really that long if your in a camp, unless your near a big base camp the camp moves with the rig and is a few km away so you dont have that much travel time. Shit some guys get out of bed 15min before there shift starts. There are far too many variables to type but if you have any ?'s ask and I will do my best to answer them as I am sure there are others here that can as well.

[ironwill]

Rig work is not where it is at right now folks.......Scaryyyyyy
it will be back....if you have any qs b2j4eva let me know....I have a bit of experience moving around and working....It takes time to build a name, but when you do, it is golden....