WTF? Am I falling apart?

[bottleneckblooz]

I don't know what's going on with me lately, but it seems like I get injured way too easily when I train now. I'm currently in the last few days of my pct (just running nolva) and I'm having lots of joint and muscle problems. Last night I was training lats and I pulled something in my upper back that hurts like a bitch. Plus the muscles in my forearm are messed up. I can't do any bicep work without severe pain in my forearm. This has been bugging me for a while but seems to be worse now. It feels like it is something in the muscle itself, like maybe a tear or tendonitis.
My shoulders also are bugging me, but this is nothing new. And my knee flares up when doing most quad exercises.
Is this normal during pct? Is it much easier to get injured during this time? It is really frustrating. I feel like I will never be able to train hard again:(

[Gettin'r'round]

Sounds very very familiar... I'm thinking juice doesn't do a body good. I was off for many years after the heaviest cycle I'd ever done. Finally got fixed but the impingement problem keeps happening.

You've got some imbalances going on. As well some nerve impingements going on in your upper back. This is going to cause tendinitis and you need to find a good chiropractor. Where are u located?

[bottleneckblooz]

Sounds very very familiar... I'm thinking juice doesn't do a body good. I was off for many years after the heaviest cycle I'd ever done. Finally got fixed but the impingement problem keeps happening.

You've got some imbalances going on. As well some nerve impingements going on in your upper back. This is going to cause tendinitis and you need to find a good chiropractor. Where are u located?

I'm in NB.

[tex]

same thing after i finished my cycle......after i quit the nolva my tendons recovered.......

[big_luse]

Ive read a handful of womens testimonials (cancer pateints) who hate nolva - because many experienced serious joints and tendon injuries while using it. Keep in mind these are people whose physical activity is things like doing dishes and laundry ... not heavy lifting.

Maybe someone can chime in here and set me straight but heres my hypothesis- Although nlva doesnt "lower" circulating estrogen it just blocks it these I think it may adversely affect the affinity for estrogen to exert its beneficial effects on connective tissue. As we know estrogen is essential for things like sex drive, immunity, strength, and connective tissue integrity. Regardless, 4-6 weeks of suppressed estrogen is better than having raisin sized balls - so light training during pct might be the ticket.

*and building a balanced and flexible physique on cycle is important aswell.

[fathead]

the gear you were on likely made you able to lift more poundages than the supporting structure (ligaments/joints/tendons) can really handle and all the water/lubrication etc from the gear masks these symptoms. now your off and dont ahve magical recovery and natural pain killers so youre feeling the damage you were doing while on the sauce.

also certain drugs/combos will weaken connective tissue....

[GTZ3]

Coming off a cycle its important to accept that your gona lose a little strength. It better to not fight this and avoid injury. Worry more about beating your pre cycle poundages ... not your superhuman #s you had @ week 12. Remember, off the crank your protein synthesis, nitrogen retention, neural activation, and other physiological factors will be absent from when your 'on'.

Take in alot of water, warm up before and stretch after, and keep your workouts lighter and focus more on a pump than setting records. 4-6 weeks post cycle when your bodys naturally pumping out adequate amount of Test and your off SERMS then start upping the #s.

[kyle]

Coming off a cycle its important to accept that your gona lose a little strength. It better to not fight this and avoid injury. Worry more about beating your pre cycle poundages ... not your superhuman #s you had @ week 12. Remember, off the crank your protein synthesis, nitrogen retention, neural activation, and other physiological factors will be absent from when your 'on'.

Take in alot of water, warm up before and stretch after, and keep your workouts lighter and focus more on a pump than setting records. 4-6 weeks post cycle when your bodys naturally pumping out adequate amount of Test and your off SERMS then start upping the #s.


Good advice, I've been clean now for a very long time and I lost strength when I was off and had very sore shoulders but I've managed be almost as strong as I was when I was on cycle over a year ago.

[natenator]

you guys ever experience massive soreness while ON?

I'm dying here. Currently doing 2 on, 1 off, 2 on, 1 off, repeat. Training is:

Day 1: Back/Traps/Rear Delts
Day 2: Bi's/Tri's/Calves
Day 4: Legs/Hams/Calves
Day 5: Chest/Shoulders

Volumre is between 28 and 35 sets for each workout. It's crazy but should not be leaving me with the soreness I am currently feeling. Strength through the roof on most exercises.

Diet in check with maintenance calories as I cruise into slowly adjusting upwards to bulking calories.

thanks

[#8]

Take in alot of water, warm up before and stretch after, [/QUOTE]

this is good advice. a quick 3-5 minute light cardio warm up causes your body to release synovial fluid. This actually helps lubricate tissues in tendons and joints and can help ease lifting and prevent injury.

:)

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[St]

Once you get off gear lower the weight a bit and increase your reps.Also as for injurys go see a RMT for deep tissue massage it works wonders.