What dose timing would you do for this cycle.

[Dk]

Test E 600mg a week/ 1-2
Test P/ Kickstart roughly 400-500mg a week for 2 to 4 weeks
Deca 300mg a week/ 1-10

im adding in prop for a kickstart instead of an oral, deciding why use something stressful on the liver when I can just use A faster Ester.

Gonna run the prop Anywhere from 2-4 weeks depending on the feel.

I have enough prop for 4 weeks of 500mg/wk, so either i use 2 weeks at the start and then 2 weeks at the end after im out of E just to drag cycle on 2 weeks longer, or else all 4 weeks at the start, doesnt bother me.

personally i was thinkin something like

Mondays and thursdays- 150mg Deca/300mg Test E mixed together
Everyday on Prop- 60-70mg a day

but if anyone has any other ideas, shoot

[Dk]

nothin haha

[gsxr750]

It's late ;)

[gustavo77]

I'd run the prop for the first four weeks...ed or eod. What you have planned there is fine if you do not mind pinning ed.

[Dk]

I'd run the prop for the first four weeks...ed or eod. What you have planned there is fine if you do not mind pinning ed.

im sure i can handle it.

4 weeks is a little long of a frontload though isnt it haha

[gustavo77]

im sure i can handle it.

4 weeks is a little long of a frontload though isnt it haha

Not really, test E does not reach optimal blood levels for 4-5 weeks.

[Dk]

It's late ;)

made the thread almost 24 hrs ago haha

[Dk]

Not really, test E does not reach optimal blood levels for 4-5 weeks.

perfect, thats what ill do then.

Monday/Thurs- Mix Test 300mg Enth with 150mg Deca
ED/first 4 weeks- 70mg Test P

.5mg Arimidex EOD?

[Amoral]

Depending on what types of pins you're using, you can prob get a solid 3 weeks outta 20mls of prop. Maybe just use two vails til they're done? Should be good enough. 2-4 weeks based on feel I've always gone by. A week in there without prop and waiting for the enan to fully kick in's never gonna hurt ya.

Arim if you wanna keep water weight down, but personally I only use it if I'm bloating too fast or get negative comments. Otherwise use at your discretion.

[Avitoholis]

Personally, I would use some of the prop for the couple of weeks leading up to your PCT when the longer esters are starting to really clear your system. If you could adjust your dosage to run 3 weeks in the beginning and 3 weeks at the end, then it would be ideal.

[Amoral]

Personally, I would use some of the prop for the couple of weeks leading up to your PCT when the longer esters are starting to really clear your system. If you could adjust your dosage to run 3 weeks in the beginning and 3 weeks at the end, then it would be ideal.

+1 bro

[kyle]

Looks like I good cycle. I never really bought into Test E taking a few weeks to kick in. I notice it after 2 or 3 days. But It looks like a decent cycle. One hell of a front load. Using it the last few weeks also a good idea then your system will clear the gear out in a couple days rather then waiting 2 or 3 weeks for the test e to clear out.

[Dk]

Personally, I would use some of the prop for the couple of weeks leading up to your PCT when the longer esters are starting to really clear your system. If you could adjust your dosage to run 3 weeks in the beginning and 3 weeks at the end, then it would be ideal.

only have 4 weeks worth of prop bro.

Ill probably just run it all at the start and then wait the standard 2 weeks after lest Enth injection to start pct.

[Avitoholis]

I know most people say to wait 2 weeks after last test e shot, but i'd say wait at least 3 weeks, considering you will have about 1000mg's of active test in your system by your last shot, it will take longer to clear than the normal 2 weeks for lets say 1 dose of 600mg's. You won't be able to recover until the levels are low enough. Check out this link http://www.bulkmuscle.com/pct/ it's quite helpful.

[Dk]

seein as how were on the topic of PCT.

nolva still should be good by itself even though im addin in deca eh?

lots say if you add deca, add HCG

[shithead]

19-nor drugs will shut most people down fairly hard.

[Dk]

19-nor drugs will shut most people down fairly hard.

so you think i should run HCG or just add clomid to PCT?

if so on the HCG, whole cycle or just near the end?

ive never used HCG before so i havent bothered to look to into it

[Houstonbc]

use hcg throughout your whole cycle 500iu 3-4 days

[Avitoholis]

HCG can't hurt, i'd use it throughout your cycle or start after a couple of weeks, it will prevent or reverse testicular atrophy which is half the battle when trying to recover testicular function, just discontinue use before you begin your PCT. As for Nolva being good enough for your PCT it probably would be, that being said, there are many people who believe that Clomid is superior to Nolva and just as many that believe the opposite. Considering I can't choose who's argument is right, I generally use both.

[Dk]

use hcg throughout your whole cycle 500iu 3-4 days

well sh*t, my stuff is already on the way.

now i gotta find some HCG seperatly, dont think my rep had any HCG anyway