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7 Scape O'Tech
04-05-2007, 09:19 AM
Couple new roids on the horizon...

Winstrol Cypionate and anavar cypionate...

Excited? Personally i don't know if there's a benefit to shooting them instead of eating them, although some claim injectiing regular win is better than eating them. Thoughts?

ergie
04-05-2007, 10:23 AM
Not a big fan of winny or anavar but i think they'd fly

7 Scape O'Tech
04-05-2007, 11:13 AM
oh another new one is tren decanoate too, can't see there being a huge market though over the enanthate version.

ergie
04-05-2007, 12:06 PM
dont really see the point of tren dec, Tren Phenylprop would be a better idea I think

Bowlcut
04-05-2007, 08:06 PM
There is no reason to have long ester forms of steroids that are available in oral. I think this is more of a marketing move than sound logic. If ED injections are scaring a person from using injectable winny, they would most likely opt for the oral. Winny also has side effects for some so I would opt for oral or suspension in the event of joint pain or hair loss.

St
04-05-2007, 08:59 PM
oh another new one is tren decanoate too, can't see there being a huge market though over the enanthate version.

I think its great to have long ester for the people that don't want to take shot ed,or eod.Plus if the stuff is in the System for 28 days.Just think of one large shot a week say 200mg per ml at a 3cc shot would be 600mg at week 1 then,week two 600mg again after two shots you would have a total of 1200mg in the blood stream on day 8,week 3 would be 1800mg in total in the blood stream.Some may like some may not only time will tell,and once a UG lab stocks it, and sell good they would keep it,and if it doesn't sell well they would just drop it from there list.

Bowlcut
04-05-2007, 09:53 PM
I think its great to have long ester for the people that don't want to take shot ed,or eod.Plus if the stuff is in the System for 28 days.Just think of one large shot a week say 200mg per ml at a 3cc shot would be 600mg at week 1 then,week two 600mg again after two shots you would have a total of 1200mg in the blood stream on day 8,week 3 would be 1800mg in total in the blood stream.Some may like some may not only time will tell,and once a UG lab stocks it, and sell good they would keep it,and if it doesn't sell well they would just drop it from there list.

Problem with tren E or decanoate would be the intense side effects and the fact that one has to wait longer to see them subside if they discontinue its use.

7 Scape O'Tech
05-05-2007, 10:00 AM
true, tren decanoate could potentially be a nightmare for a first timer.

ergie
05-05-2007, 12:05 PM
but then so could tren en & parabolan for that matter

7 Scape O'Tech
05-05-2007, 01:42 PM
you are very right my brother, i wouldn't recommend any tren newbie starting off with the enanthate version until they know how the body will react to it. Enanthate is bad enough with a 5.25 day half life.....but decanoate at 15 days is a potential nightmare waiting to happen! lol.

St
05-05-2007, 05:55 PM
you are very right my brother, i wouldn't recommend any tren newbie starting off with the enanthate version until they know how the body will react to it. Enanthate is bad enough with a 5.25 day half life.....but decanoate at 15 days is a potential nightmare waiting to happen! lol.


Not for me.:D

ergie
05-05-2007, 07:53 PM
lol nice avi Scape, is this a new one?

7 Scape O'Tech
05-05-2007, 09:07 PM
hey you know me, gotta keep things fresh. ;)

All this tren talk, someone's gotta make a susta tren one of these days, 50 acetate, 100 enan, 100 deca. Ouu that'd be fun. Probably be pricey as hell though.

frenchy
06-05-2007, 05:34 PM
Im taking tren a right now ed and its only hard to inject everyday for the first week. After that it seems like you get used to it. I was apprehencive at first but now I kinda look forward to the poke and then I go do cardio right away put on some DMX (which by the way at 120 db will out perform any n.o. supplement lol. ) and I get super pumped on workout days. With that Im taking primo e3d injection. Im in the second week and already Im seeing gains, my muscles are getting super hard... LOVE IT!

frenchy
06-05-2007, 05:35 PM
I guess my point is if tren a aint broke.. why fix it!

7 Scape O'Tech
06-05-2007, 05:44 PM
Very true, how much primo and tren you running? I bet everything getting nice and hard eh

frenchy
06-05-2007, 07:43 PM
ya for sure Im takin ed homebrew tren so about 75 mg and e3d 100mg of primobolon.

St
07-05-2007, 04:20 PM
What about Methasterone.

7 Scape O'Tech
07-05-2007, 05:07 PM
That's superdrol right? Haven't tried it myself, anyone else? There's some other new legal one out now that guys are going crazy over, well legal in the US anyways, can't remember the name off hand. Got rid of gyno and gave crazy strength and size. Seems too good to be true, but who knows.

St
07-05-2007, 05:12 PM
That's superdrol right? Haven't tried it myself, anyone else? There's some other new legal one out now that guys are going crazy over, well legal in the US anyways, can't remember the name off hand. Got rid of gyno and gave crazy strength and size. Seems too good to be true, but who knows.


Yes.One of the ug labs carry this as a gear.

shithead
07-05-2007, 05:33 PM
Win cyp might be neat.

Durk
07-05-2007, 07:10 PM
I coulda swore I read somewhere that if win cyp was made that it wouldnt work the same as plain winstrol

7 Scape O'Tech
07-05-2007, 07:23 PM
hmmm, interesting, do you recall how it would be different, was it anything drastic like it wasn't a cutter anymore etc?

Durk
07-05-2007, 08:07 PM
cant remember exactly it was a while ago, but I do remember the article saying something about it could work on paper but might not do anything for a living subject, something along those lines, so I am betting it would be best to test it first.

Bowlcut
07-05-2007, 08:59 PM
I got to thinking about the tren and one has to consider that tren is not for the novice as it is more for the advanced AAS abuser/user :).
That means that if a person should be used to pinning lots and a long ester form like decanoate would just be redundant.

7 Scape O'Tech
07-05-2007, 11:14 PM
Also though, myself for instance have been doing this for years and there are 2 ways to look at it, firstly, yes im used to pinning so they're not a huge deal, but also, they get old after awhile, and some (myself included) would much prefer to do 1-2 shots a week and be done with it. Also, some long timers have so much scar tissue build up that ever day shots are just impossible.

St
08-05-2007, 07:20 AM
Also though, myself for instance have been doing this for years and there are 2 ways to look at it, firstly, yes im used to pinning so they're not a huge deal, but also, they get old after awhile, and some (myself included) would much prefer to do 1-2 shots a week and be done with it. Also, some long timers have so much scar tissue build up that ever day shots are just impossible.

Thay is why i like long esters,less shots and scar tissue,but just to let you know a RMT can do deep tissue massage and break down the scar tissue.

ergie
08-05-2007, 02:03 PM
scar tissue........shooting into my delts is just horrible, all I hear is rrrrrrip

JonnyO
08-05-2007, 03:13 PM
Why make a fast acting steroid into a longer acting one? That defeats the purpose doesnt it? You want the quick bang and I cannot see a longer acting version of winstrol working better.

7 Scape O'Tech
08-05-2007, 03:22 PM
Well part of the nice thing about the longer acting esters, is well, the longer the ester, the more soluble it will be in oil. Which is why prop isn't all that soluble but deca or eq is, for example. So a longer acting winstrol cyp could be made at 250mg/ml, instead of regular winstrol suspension at 50mg/ml. So in fact you could do 50mg ED or 250mg of the win cyp every 5 days and still maintain the same blood concentration, or something along those lines. :)

St
08-05-2007, 04:24 PM
Well part of the nice thing about the longer acting esters, is well, the longer the ester, the more soluble it will be in oil. Which is why prop isn't all that soluble but deca or eq is, for example. So a longer acting winstrol cyp could be made at 250mg/ml, instead of regular winstrol suspension at 50mg/ml. So in fact you could do 50mg ED or 250mg of the win cyp every 5 days and still maintain the same blood concentration, or something along those lines. :)

Now i'm hard.:D