View Full Version : Anyone tried Test E????
purelife
07-10-2008, 09:40 PM
Anyone tried Test E????
Is it very painfull??? or its pain free?????:)
tiramisu
07-10-2008, 09:57 PM
My friend has tried the 400 mg/ml Test E / Test Decoate and day 2-4 are uncomfortable but @ 600 mg / wk it is definitely doing what it is supposed to do by week 3.
Stonewald Rockwater
07-10-2008, 09:58 PM
people havent been liking the test coming out of Southern Alaska lately
tiramisu
07-10-2008, 09:59 PM
My friend will likely try the 250 mg/ml next time.
Anyone tried Test E????
Is it very painfull??? or its pain free?????:)
Are you talking about there new test e 300mg per cc/10ml?
There t-400 have a bad rap,but the rest of the line is amazing.
Rhinobolt10
07-10-2008, 11:59 PM
There was one bad batch of test E, the rest after that have been fine.
It is going to hurt, but heat it up and possibly ice afterwards and it's fine.
There was one bad batch of test E, the rest after that have been fine.
It is going to hurt, but heat it up and possibly ice afterwards and it's fine.
not sure about icing.
It will restrict bloodflow to the wound, which is the last thing you want.
To each his own though
littlejay
08-10-2008, 03:25 AM
My friend has tried the 400 mg/ml Test E / Test Decoate and day 2-4 are uncomfortable but @ 600 mg / wk it is definitely doing what it is supposed to do by week 3.
I also have a 20ml bottle of this sa mix.Ive done two seperate shots (one in each shoulder)now, and both are very uncomfortable(BA level?),each shot was 0.7ml.I also got a fever from it as well.
forgive me guys for bringing this up,I did a bunch of reading on this compound in the forums, but didnt really see a straight answer.I see that there was a lot of probs with the t400enth campound being dosed wrong.
does anybody know if this 200mg enanthate,200mg decanoate per ml gear was there answer to that bad batch stuff?
my batch#is te685679.
maybe some users of this exact product have some feedback.
Big D
08-10-2008, 08:45 AM
I also have a 20ml bottle of this sa mix.Ive done two seperate shots (one in each shoulder)now, and both are very uncomfortable(BA level?),each shot was 0.7ml.I also got a fever from it as well.
forgive me guys for bringing this up,I did a bunch of reading on this compound in the forums, but didnt really see a straight answer.I see that there was a lot of probs with the t400enth campound being dosed wrong.
does anybody know if this 200mg enanthate,200mg decanoate per ml gear was there answer to that bad batch stuff?
my batch#is te685679.
maybe some users of this exact product have some feedback.
I have a friend thats taking that same exact test and has no problems with it, you have nothing to worry about, that pain your feeling is normal.
next time dont do it in both shoulders at the same time hahah, man that must suck.
tiramisu
08-10-2008, 11:08 AM
The recent test 400ml/mg e/dec is dosed just fine.
My friend is sticking w/ rotating quads and glutes
He considered delts and decided no thanks.
A mild massage post injection seems to dull the next day pain a bit.
Havent tried their test e but I`m currently on their Tren E and so far no complaints, smooth injections.
canadianmuscle0803
08-10-2008, 11:45 AM
i get no pain at all from T400.
littlejay
08-10-2008, 12:39 PM
Tanks for all the replies.
ill stick with it then.And I actaully didnt shoot both shoulders at the same time(that would suck.LOL)I follow monday and friday shooting times.It takes about 2-3 days for pain to go away,im still able to work thruogh it anyway.Also like u guys said, messaging and heat does work well.I just got a little paranoid seing those post about all the bad t400.goes with getting ug gear i geuss.lol.thanks for the help
outshine
08-10-2008, 12:48 PM
The t400 has been good to me both results wise and lack of pain wise
AlbertaBeef
08-10-2008, 12:59 PM
It's workin' for me, very little discomfort but that may be because the prop is painfull as hell in comparison. I guess I'm not an EO guy but it's nothing 400mg of ibuprofen twice a day doesn't fix. Good gear.
gustavo77
08-10-2008, 06:32 PM
It's workin' for me, very little discomfort but that may be because the prop is painfull as hell in comparison. I guess I'm not an EO guy but it's nothing 400mg of ibuprofen twice a day doesn't fix. Good gear.
It is not the EO that makes the prop painful bro, it is the fact the it is 200mg/ml...lol.
AlbertaBeef
08-10-2008, 08:02 PM
^^You're probably right big guy it's just last time I ran the same brand prop it was smooth as silk and no pain but that was at the end of a cycle so that may be the diff.
Michael 2009
08-10-2008, 08:08 PM
After,2 cycles with Test,E,I find this product is great.No pain with the stack......:D:D
Rhinobolt10
08-10-2008, 11:37 PM
not sure about icing.
It will restrict bloodflow to the wound, which is the last thing you want.
To each his own though
I found the icing worked fairly well, but haven't iced my last few shots and they've only been slightly more painful.
juggybuggy
09-10-2008, 02:24 AM
Anyone here actually use any of that bad batch of t400? How bad was it?
was it just underdosed? or was there no hormone in it at all?
I ask because I have a bottle of the bad batch, and I am wondering if I should just chuck it, or what?
I also have a bottle of the newer t400 (200e/200dec) which I hear is ok, and I am thinking of just mixing them together. at the worst I end up with 40ml of 200mg/ml. sound reasonable?
Anyone here actually use any of that bad batch of t400? How bad was it?
was it just underdosed? or was there no hormone in it at all?
I ask because I have a bottle of the bad batch, and I am wondering if I should just chuck it, or what?
I also have a bottle of the newer t400 (200e/200dec) which I hear is ok, and I am thinking of just mixing them together. at the worst I end up with 40ml of 200mg/ml. sound reasonable?
its junk, underdosed but not sure at what, im in it now, 6 weeks in, no extra motivation, gains have probabl been all natty actually.
dont mix it with the new stuff, itll just dilute it.
if you want, shoot it extra on the side just for a bit more.
last thing id do is mix them together though, nothings worse then not knowing exactly how much your shootin
wouldnt count on it, but my source just said it was a labeling issue and the bad batch of 400mg is actually 250
BolicPower
09-10-2008, 03:32 AM
i never used ,but i can tell you, if you REALLY think someones putting out t-400 with NO results and now say labeling issue is lying, you should even grow on 250mg. IT WAS and out right rip off and some people are pissed, i hear the same shit nightly at the gym. Get your $$ back from them, why to many lye from there, like powders from Germany, when a member KNOWS it came from china. Somethings up but with all the Pm's he gave EVERYONE, and all the fronts, of course there will be helpers.
So if your thinking of the 250, imo dont' bother, as it's prob only 200mg/cc
canadianmuscle0803
09-10-2008, 07:56 AM
why is it that I dont get any pain with any of the injections??? i have even done 1.5 cc of prop in 1 shot which is 300mg and i got no pain at all???? can someone help me out here.. is it because i go deep with my injections? i started using 1.5 inch even for my shoulders.. input would be great..
currently im doing 3cc shots of this stuff.. prop/tren/masteron.. thats 3cc in one injection and i get no pain.. am i a mutant? lol
canadianmuscle0803
09-10-2008, 08:00 AM
its junk, underdosed but not sure at what, im in it now, 6 weeks in, no extra motivation, gains have probabl been all natty actually.
dont mix it with the new stuff, itll just dilute it.
if you want, shoot it extra on the side just for a bit more.
last thing id do is mix them together though, nothings worse then not knowing exactly how much your shootin
wouldnt count on it, but my source just said it was a labeling issue and the bad batch of 400mg is actually 250
if you had a bad experience with it like you say, you should contact your rep and get something else free of charge.. i cant say ive had any issues like this with the test.. as im always on at least a gram a week and i know my body.. which batch are you speaking of?
canadianmuscle0803
09-10-2008, 08:01 AM
Anyone here actually use any of that bad batch of t400? How bad was it?
was it just underdosed? or was there no hormone in it at all?
I ask because I have a bottle of the bad batch, and I am wondering if I should just chuck it, or what?
I also have a bottle of the newer t400 (200e/200dec) which I hear is ok, and I am thinking of just mixing them together. at the worst I end up with 40ml of 200mg/ml. sound reasonable?
can you please post a pic of this so called bad batch?? was it the batch before this new stuff? just straight test e? a pic would be great thanks
canadianmuscle0803
09-10-2008, 08:06 AM
i never used ,but i can tell you, if you REALLY think someones putting out t-400 with NO results and now say labeling issue is lying, you should even grow on 250mg. IT WAS and out right rip off and some people are pissed, i hear the same shit nightly at the gym. Get your $$ back from them, why to many lye from there, like powders from Germany, when a member KNOWS it came from china. Somethings up but with all the Pm's he gave EVERYONE, and all the fronts, of course there will be helpers.
So if your thinking of the 250, imo dont' bother, as it's prob only 200mg/cc
you have to take the good with the bad.. there is a possibility that there might have been a bad batch of the test.. if there was and this can be proved the there rep needs to do something about it... but it almost sounds like your dogging the whole line and its reputation.. this product is very good and many can attest to that myself included.. so please dont speculate doses and mislabeling when in reality you have not even touched the product..
grow on 250mg/week? maybe if your 170 pounds.. or its your first cycle.. you either have very little cycle experience or your in denial about needing to raise test levels in order to grow past what you have already attained.. which one is it?
Big D
09-10-2008, 08:37 AM
can you please post a pic of this so called bad batch?? was it the batch before this new stuff? just straight test e? a pic would be great thanks
ya I have a buddy that still has half a bottle, its the batch just straight test e 400 , he got it right before they started putting out the other test 400 (200mg Enanthate/200mg deconate).
he was on it for 14 weeks at 1200mg/week with no results so he stopped.
Random Letters
09-10-2008, 08:44 AM
CM is that you in your avatar?
^ his avatar is Frank McGrath aka "Wrath", the poster boy for animal pak supplements
why is it that I dont get any pain with any of the injections??? i have even done 1.5 cc of prop in 1 shot which is 300mg and i got no pain at all???? can someone help me out here.. is it because i go deep with my injections? i started using 1.5 inch even for my shoulders.. input would be great..
currently im doing 3cc shots of this stuff.. prop/tren/masteron.. thats 3cc in one injection and i get no pain.. am i a mutant? lol
I never experience injection pain with any gear other than winstrol. Some people are just lucky I guess.
if you had a bad experience with it like you say, you should contact your rep and get something else free of charge.. i cant say ive had any issues like this with the test.. as im always on at least a gram a week and i know my lbody.. which batch are you speaking of?ld
my rep did say he would give me a discount on my next order, but i dont even feel like orderin from em again, gonna try , im so pissed because this was my first cycle, which was wrecked by bunk test.
in other words, my first cycle was 20mg of dbol for 25 days...lmao
ya I have a buddy that still has half a bottle, its the batch just straight test e 400 , he got it right before they started putting out the other test 400 (200mg Enanthate/200mg deconate).
he was on it for 14 weeks at 1200mg/week with no results so he stopped.thats EXACTLY when i got mine, right before they switched to the 200/200.
im on week 6, might as well just stop i guess
Big D
09-10-2008, 10:20 PM
ya man, your probalby best to stop.
re-plan your cycle
if your still second guessing yourself now then theres something wrong.
my buddy that was taking 1200mg/week just stop no pct, and he had no problems. so the test was forsure underdosed.
your just unlucky but it happens no big deal. its great experience.
its great experience.
lol
ya man, your probalby best to stop.
re-plan your cycle
if your still second guessing yourself now then theres something wrong.
my buddy that was taking 1200mg/week just stop no pct, and he had no problems. so the test was forsure underdosed.
your just unlucky but it happens no big deal. its great experience.
im proably just gonna cut until my stuff gets in for my next cycle, then ill hop straight in my "second" cycle
t-bone
10-10-2008, 03:12 AM
ya man, your probalby best to stop.
re-plan your cycle
if your still second guessing yourself now then theres something wrong.
my buddy that was taking 1200mg/week just stop no pct, and he had no problems. so the test was forsure underdosed.
your just unlucky but it happens no big deal. its great experience.
even if its was way underdosed like 50% so 200mg/ml... then he should have still got results off the 600mg/week
Big D
10-10-2008, 08:33 AM
even if its was way underdosed like 50% so 200mg/ml... then he should have still got results off the 600mg/week
ya I know, so it wasn't under dosed 50%, if someone knows were to send it away to get it tested i think my buddy would be more then happy to give his bottle.
purelife
10-10-2008, 08:43 PM
thnx for the info boys
t400 here i come :)
FastFrank
11-10-2008, 02:23 AM
ive been wondering about this.
i finished off test-e cycle with minimal gains, i threw tren in for the last 5 weeks and then started to get something happening. I was @ 600mg/week for 12 weeks. Kind of puts me off of SA gear, in the future I think I will try and find someone else.
chan_ho_nam
11-10-2008, 03:39 AM
So the concensus is that there was a bad batch of t400? Anyone have the batch number, I actually have an old old stock starting with 55.
What about the 250, anyone currently using that to some success?
littlejay
11-10-2008, 04:48 AM
i also would be curious to see the batch# on these bottles as well,mine is on the first page.iv'e only been on for a week and a half,so i cant give no feed back yet.im doing 600mg a week so it wont take to long to get some effects.
gustavo77
11-10-2008, 07:11 AM
.................
canadianmuscle0803
11-10-2008, 09:52 AM
some might think im only saying this because I have a relationship with them but thats not the case, i have run mostly everything in the SA line and I have certainly had no issue with any of the products, especially the test..
can't you admit it ?
their is a BUNK batch. I've ran it at over 1.5g/w and no results except pain.
I'll have a pic of the batch this weekend
Monka
11-10-2008, 11:37 AM
can't you admit it ?
their is a BUNK batch. I've ran it at over 1.5g/w and no results except pain.
I'll have a pic of the batch this weekend
I hope not, the dude seemed cool. might have been an honest mistake. IF you didnt' grow off that much then ya contact your man and see if he'll help or something. i dont' understand why you'd get pain to, if totaly bunk? just weird. did you give enough time in between cycles? sometimes your at your max, and that's it.
I hope not, the dude seemed cool. might have been an honest mistake. IF you didnt' grow off that much then ya contact your man and see if he'll help or something. i dont' understand why you'd get pain to, if totaly bunk? just weird. did you give enough time in between cycles? sometimes your at your max, and that's it.
9 weeks
pain is probably intolerance to EO
have great results from 500mg test cyp (20weeks in, stopping now)
canadianmuscle0803
11-10-2008, 04:42 PM
can't you admit it ?
their is a BUNK batch. I've ran it at over 1.5g/w and no results except pain.
I'll have a pic of the batch this weekend
well if that's the case then there was definitely something wrong with that batch, but I have not come across it luckily nor have any of my friend that have taken it.. i get great results off 1 gram a week..
gustavo77
11-10-2008, 05:10 PM
can't you admit it ?
their is a BUNK batch. I've ran it at over 1.5g/w and no results except pain.
I'll have a pic of the batch this weekend
Even if and that is a big IF it was underdosed (which has not be confirmed), you would still get results from shooting over 3cc of the t-400. There is NO way that is abolutely no hormone in it. I am sorry but i do not believe you. I know a lot of people who have taken it and have gotten results. There is something else happening here...
Well I have spoken with my rep regarding the t-400 "issue" and he has stated emphatically that SA has not confirmed any problems with any batches of t-400. That said, i nor any of my friends have had any problems with the t-400. In fact one of my close friends is using it right now and is making some of his best gains ever.
My thinking is that people need to check their training and diet before blaming the gear for their lack of gains. Test is only a hormone, if you do not train and eat right then your results will be limited no matter how much shit you put in your body. Too me, people are expecting too much of a miracle to happen to fast. Anyone who knows anything about gear knows that gains take time no matter how much gear one is on.
By no means am i startin an argument or trying to contradict you, but my did confirm there was a bad batch of the t400, something about labeling issues and labels it as t400 at still doesnt explain how people running 1.5 didnt gain though, cuz they would have been runnin 750, which is plenty.
But anyway, either everyones training and diet sucked..or my source made a little udner statement to admit that the test was bad, but not tell me how bad it was.
can't you admit it ?
their is a BUNK batch. I've ran it at over 1.5g/w and no results except pain.
I'll have a pic of the batch this weekend
ill put a pic of mine to. If it helps, if it helps mines the stuff when their name was before they changed it back
can't find the usb cable to upload pics but my T400 batch :
Bak:
Te650719
Upp:
Feb 10
had 2 vials
can't find the usb cable to upload pics but my T400 batch :
Bak:
Te650719
Upp:
Feb 10
had 2 vials
exact same here bro
Neavris
14-10-2008, 07:29 PM
Bak:
Te650720
Upp:
Feb 10
Mine is test prop, absolute bunk, no effect from 600mg/w for 3 weeks. Got it from the same guy as you 2 I believe...
=/
canadianmuscle0803
14-10-2008, 08:16 PM
Bak:
Te650720
Upp:
Feb 10
Mine is test prop, absolute bunk, no effect from 600mg/w for 3 weeks. Got it from the same guy as you 2 I believe...
=/
wow thats a bunch of crap... i've tried every batch prop and all have been nothing short of amazing.. i got signs of gyno off of it in the first week.. and i never get gyno..
unless someone is pulling out the hormone and re-capping the product with bunk, i dont buy this.. i have not had anyone complain about the prop.. the only issue i have had is 1 batch of the test 400 and even that i have not had an issue with..
Neavris
14-10-2008, 08:33 PM
wow thats a bunch of crap... i've tried every batch of prop and all have been nothing short of amazing.. i got signs of gyno off of it in the first week.. and i never get gyno..
unless someone is pulling out the hormone and re-capping the product with bunk, i dont buy this.. i have not had anyone complain about the prop.. the only issue i have had is 1 batch of the test 400 and even that i have not had an issue with..
I've been saying that to gus also... That's why I try to figure out if more people have had bad bottles coming from the same supplier than I and the other guys who bought T-400 got it from...
All I can say is mine doesn't work. pure bunk, nothing. I know it's not the lab, tried some caps from that lab and they are awesome. so...
Stonewald Rockwater
14-10-2008, 08:35 PM
why to gus?
Neavris
14-10-2008, 08:37 PM
Asked him a bunch of stuff about SA, seemed to know his shit...
Why?
kloan
14-10-2008, 09:18 PM
Maybe you guys were just plain ripped off...
gustavo77
14-10-2008, 09:31 PM
why to gus?
he asked me about my experiences with prop and i told him that the prop, although painful for me was very potent.
There will be the new T-300 soon.
gustavo77
14-10-2008, 09:51 PM
There will be the new T-300 soon.
Haha, can;t wait...gonna be the base of my next run. Heard they are gonna be in 10ml vials also...no more 20ml.
tiramisu
14-10-2008, 10:31 PM
I'm just starting to enjoy the pain.
There will be the new T-300 soon.
Haha, can;t wait...gonna be the base of my next run. Heard they are gonna be in 10ml vials also...no more 20ml.
one of the reps already has the t300 out
Bak:
Te650720
Upp:
Feb 10
Mine is test prop, absolute bunk, no effect from 600mg/w for 3 weeks. Got it from the same guy as you 2 I believe...
=/
maybe it's the source because it's not directly from a rep...
gustavo77
15-10-2008, 12:52 AM
maybe it's the source because it's not directly from a rep...
huh???
huh???
yah i didnt get it either haha, i think he was responding to my post above his but i have no idea
gustavo77
15-10-2008, 02:30 AM
edited...
Ohhh, now it makes sense....
canadianmuscle0803
15-10-2008, 06:44 AM
Haha, can;t wait...gonna be the base of my next run. Heard they are gonna be in 10ml vials also...no more 20ml.
yup.. all products except the winstol will come in 10ml vials from now on.. and the look will also differ very much as well..
canadianmuscle0803
15-10-2008, 06:48 AM
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^ I've always found aluminum bats are better than wooden ones for breaking knee caps
gustavo77
15-10-2008, 12:11 PM
^ I've always found aluminum bats are better than wooden ones for breaking knee caps
Good to know!
gsxr750
15-10-2008, 12:28 PM
I should keep this to myself but i need to say something, there is a guy in my city who is selling products for a really really cheap price.. which makes me question many things.. im looking into the situation right now as we speak.. first off hes breaking a huge rule by lowering the market value of the products which is a big NO NO!! and another thing, if this guy is selling these products for such a ridiculous price it makes me wonder if this guy is re-capping the bottles with fake stuff.. im setting up a meeting with this guy and when i find out more you guys will also know.. if this guy is re-capping bottles with bunk shit, mark my words..... this guy wont be able to walk after im done with him.
Now that could explain alot..
Random Letters
15-10-2008, 12:47 PM
Now that could explain alot..
Nah, I got mine from a respected source and it was bunk.
Big D
15-10-2008, 01:03 PM
Nah, I got mine from a respected source and it was bunk.
same here.
my buddy bought 2 vials off 1 source, and 2 off another,
canadianmuscle0803
15-10-2008, 04:49 PM
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maybe it's the source because it's not directly from a rep...
nah, you all know the source i got mine from, hes known as legit
I should keep this to myself but i need to say something, there is a guy in my city who is selling products for a really really cheap price.. which makes me question many things.. im looking into the situation right now as we speak.. first off hes breaking a huge rule by lowering the market value of the products which is a big NO NO!! and another thing, if this guy is selling these products for such a ridiculous price it makes me wonder if this guy is re-capping the bottles with fake stuff.. im setting up a meeting with this guy and when i find out more you guys will also know.. if this guy is re-capping bottles with bunk shit, mark ..... this guy wont be able to walk after im done with him.
What makes ya think its not bait(cop)?
tiramisu
15-10-2008, 09:13 PM
all i know is buying in usd is killing my friend.
buffdaddy
15-10-2008, 09:29 PM
Tried it a while ago when they first started under this name. Product was good but i seemed to break out bad on it.
kloan
15-10-2008, 09:29 PM
nah, you all know the source i got mine from, hes known as legit
What makes ya think its not bait(cop)?
that'd be entrapment. far as i know, they don't do that here.. besides, what could they possibly gain from going after buyers?
canadianmuscle0803
15-10-2008, 11:49 PM
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tiramisu
16-10-2008, 12:04 AM
When I compare the price of powder to ugl prices it makes me weep.
gustavo77
16-10-2008, 12:11 AM
When I compare the price of powder to ugl prices it makes me weep.
Me weeps too but i do not trust myself enough to make it myself...nor do i want to take the risk in getting the raws..
champcar99
16-10-2008, 01:12 AM
..nor do i want to take the risk in getting the raws..
I DO I DO ..... KIDDING .....:yeah
canadianmuscle0803
16-10-2008, 03:11 AM
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ironwill
16-10-2008, 01:25 PM
Breaking legs etc???damn i missed it...who is the tuff guy now....is it the steroid mafia...lol...
dont take no crap flexy, anyone that wants to break legs can start with Angus, did you see the size of his trunks, they aint gettin broke no way, no how...
anyway, anyone who threatens to break legs over a product, shows just how evil and vile they are, and should not be trusted under any circumstances....
whispering lightly as i leave this room...come break my legs.....lol
canadianmuscle0803
16-10-2008, 05:06 PM
you guys have me all wrong here, i dont and wont literally do anything to this guy, thats just foolish, but what he is doing is WRONG!!! and he at least needs to get confronted about it.. if i told you the prices he is selling products for you would shit yourselves.
gustavo77
16-10-2008, 05:18 PM
I DO I DO ..... KIDDING .....:yeah
You're such a gangster...a grampa gangster but still a G...lmao!
gustavo77
16-10-2008, 05:22 PM
Ahh you guys are too are too harsh on Canadianmuscle...as if none of you have ever spouted off at the mouth when something really pissed you off. CM is a good guy and is just looking out for people, so they do not get ripped.
ironwill
16-10-2008, 05:23 PM
you guys have me all wrong here, i dont and wont literally do anything to this guy, thats just foolish, but what he is doing is WRONG!!! and he at least needs to get confronted about it.. if i told you the prices he is selling SA products for you would shit yourselves.
one thing for sure...karma is a bitch, he will, as happens to every other lil fish...get whats coming to him....this is a small world we are in here, and word gets around real, real fast....:flagC
champcar99
16-10-2008, 07:12 PM
You're such a gangster...a grampa gangster but still a G...lmao!
you're not too far behind my friend.....twig :D
gustavo77
16-10-2008, 07:42 PM
you're not too far behind my friend.....twig :D
Haha, i am still a young buck..lol. Did you seen the pics of my offspring?? I'd say i am doing pretty good for an old man...and i am far from being a twig lately...test does not blow a person up, having a kid does...lmao.
kloan
16-10-2008, 07:52 PM
If it's just cheap, I don't see the problem. If it's cheap AND fake, then that deserves more than a talking to. I have no idea what cheap means exactly, but how cheap could it be really if it's still real gear?
kloan
16-10-2008, 09:15 PM
Hmm, ok.. I understand.
Overall though, it's the reps who would be most affected by the undercutting. By the time they get it in their hands, it's already paid for and the labs have made their money (unless I have things completely wrong here.. I'm just assuming). It is a shady thing to do though no matter what, because it does **** people over who are also trying to make money selling. I know if I were selling, I certainly wouldn't want someone going around and undercutting me.
As a buyer though, I can see how it would be tempting to save money. However, one has to ask themselves is it really worth paying less for something if it may not necessarily be what they think they're paying for. But not only that, even if it were the same shit, only ridiculously cheap, it's still creating a negative situation in a market that doesn't need any extra attention.
I've only be quoted one price so far, but it didn't seem that expensive and I certainly wouldn't mind paying that price. For the benefits and results of it, it's worth every penny. As long as it's GOOD.
You generally get what you pay for in life.
People don't give away good gear.
canadianmuscle0803
16-10-2008, 10:31 PM
kloan i dont think you get it, its not the fact that he is selling it for real cheap, its the fact that he is killing the market and taking others out of business, Flexy worded it perfectly.. and also at the prices this guy is getting rid of SA for, its highly likely that he is making maybe $10 for a 20ml bottle.. I know the best prices this stuff can go for when bought in very high quantity, even if he is getting the best deal possible he is hardly making a dime, also on the other hand if he is only making a dime (which is retarded) it also makes me wonder if this guy is re-capping it and selling OIL with no hormone.. SA has a very good rep besides a little hick up here and there (it can happen to anyone) all i can say is that this is not good for anyone, even if this guy is selling legit SA he is going to piss a ton of people off and in all respect he will get what he deserves.. its just very fishy to me, and I can not accept this...a personal friend of mine did fake gear not too long ago (british dragon) and got really really sick off of it.. the guy is 21 and has to be on HRT for life now because he injected cortisol at a very high dose.. please dont get me wrong here guys, im not trying to be a thug by any means, im just really pissed off that this lab might be getting a really bad rap because of some shit head looking to make a quick buck.. either way im doing everything I can to find out who this is and when I do.. everyone will know who he is..
canadianmuscle0803
16-10-2008, 10:33 PM
Gustavo, thanks for having my back on this brother.. means a lot coming from you..
kloan
16-10-2008, 10:41 PM
I think I do get it..
This guy's selling for cheap and ****ing other people over. Like you said, selling it cheap really doesn't make any sense. The only reason to sell the stuff is to make some money, if he's not even doing that, what's the point? If it's because he's recapping, then he's a douche and deserves the hammer.
In any case, I'd like to know so I can avoid him. As I posted above, I don't mind paying the $ for quality gear, it's well worth it. Still hell of a lot less than HGH.
canadianmuscle0803
16-10-2008, 11:14 PM
I think I do get it..
This guy's selling for cheap and ****ing other people over. Like you said, selling it cheap really doesn't make any sense. The only reason to sell the stuff is to make some money, if he's not even doing that, what's the point? If it's because he's recapping, then he's a douche and deserves the hammer.
In any case, I'd like to know so I can avoid him. As I posted above, I don't mind paying the $ for quality gear, it's well worth it. Still hell of a lot less than HGH.
itoo much info, sorry.
Houstonbc
16-10-2008, 11:38 PM
im not sure if i posted this before or not.. he's not a online source from what I understand, he just sells locallly in Windsor, Ontario and his name starts with a R.. so far that is all i know, when i know more, you guys will be the first to know.
thanks
I would really like to know id there's someone recapping ...
Price isn't a concern, quality/efficiency is
thanks for your help, CM
buffdaddy
16-10-2008, 11:43 PM
Holy shit CM.. take this offline, ****ing heatscore.
yeah, maybe there is too much info in your post...
gustavo77
16-10-2008, 11:52 PM
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Houstonbc
16-10-2008, 11:59 PM
wow dude
i thought that was a joke...
tiramisu
17-10-2008, 12:16 AM
Too much tren
buffdaddy
17-10-2008, 12:32 AM
Close this thread.. this site is over due for mods to be installed.
canadianmuscle0803
17-10-2008, 02:57 AM
well if this is too much info then feel free to erase my thread, im just being honest and I also like the rest need to know the truth.. either way if i crossed the line then erase my threads..
FastFrank
17-10-2008, 03:33 AM
has anyone used:
batch: Te550618
ex: Feb/09
?? I wonder if its bunk..
gustavo77
17-10-2008, 04:22 AM
well if this is too much info then feel free to erase my thread, im just being honest and I also like the rest need to know the truth.. either way if i crossed the line then erase my threads..
Bro, you edited out all that needs to be edited...
gustavo77
17-10-2008, 04:23 AM
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ergie
18-10-2008, 12:28 PM
^^ Love that saying and in there case its true, inexpensive gear is not always garbage gear though.......
FastFrank
18-10-2008, 07:15 PM
has anyone used:
batch: Te550618
ex: Feb/09
?? I wonder if its bunk..
anyone?:)
gsxr750
18-10-2008, 07:39 PM
TE650719 was the only batch I heard some so/so things about. Give it a try and find out.
BolicPower
19-10-2008, 11:57 AM
TE650719 was the only batch I heard some so/so things about. Give it a try and find out.
Do lot numbers mean much? I've seen some change and some have been same, everytime i see bottles, i know they SHOULD change with all lots but i doubt it. i think some just leave same and i know would be nice if UG's changed with every lot so they /and us can know.Some labs seem to go extra mile, some just dont care with poor products, and this is why it's good to get rescent feedback, not something that worked few months ago, but something that works now. unless you trust you guy that well, your goood to go.
i'd also try not to post to much info, want everyone safe.
FastFrank
19-10-2008, 02:16 PM
I'm having 2nd thoughts about using the SA test now. Who knows whats in it if its fake.
The problme seems to be only T400 and a certain batch. Other gears are GTG
FastFrank
19-10-2008, 03:22 PM
I have the T400. Its not the batch # mentioned, but it expires the same month.
chan_ho_nam
19-10-2008, 03:47 PM
I hade 2 bottles of those. I used one at 400mg/week...can't say that it didn't work, although I expected more, funny thing was the shot was painless. I sold the other bottle so who knows.
has anyone used:
batch: Te550618
ex: Feb/09
?? I wonder if its bunk..
tiramisu
19-10-2008, 03:52 PM
My friend has the most recent T400 and except for a nasty ache in his delt this morning he is very happy with it.
BolicPower
19-10-2008, 03:55 PM
Well, even the best labs can have a mistake, ( i dont' know of any other now) but if you've used before and worked, i'd give benifit of doubt and retry but talk with your rep, who knows, maybe at first lab didnt know? they got scammed from there supplier, or working so much lol forgot to put hormone in? so many what ifs, i just didn't like how i got a pm right away when i joined but i know every lab HAS to have some problems once in while, big or small, but something. Problems is with a mistake others (competion) can jump all over it. and make seem worst espesially if they are taking care of business? i do not knows.
gsxr750
19-10-2008, 04:03 PM
Bad word gets around quick, which can be good or bad.. because similar to what TREX said in one of his posts, I saw a guy who was at the gym shitting all over some stuff he was using saying how it wasn't working..complete garbage blah blah.
And then I saw him the next day going through the Mcdonalds drive through at 2:00AM..
Also alot of newbs have high expectations and don't understand gear enough to be even injecting it and those unfortunately are also the guys that post asking for reasurrance, and post about their expectations not being met. Which I guess goes hand and hand with SA since they did at one point PM alot of people on sites, so you know alot of the guys running SA are probably NEW, likely their first time on gear, and first lab.
I had some doubts, from all those random posts, until I saw Simon85's transformation and results, someone who is strict with his diet and TRAINING properly. So not much more I can say about that, that settled it for me..
Anyways, to the original poster, keep us updated and best of luck with your goals.
I sold the other bottle so who knows.
strong confession haha
anyway yah. My batch number matches with what gsxr posted, and i cant say its workin.
For the record.. Good testosterone will get you big even if you eat at Mcdonalds. If you gain no (water) weight by week 6-7 while eating calories and working out then your gear is probably garbage.
In fact, if my nads didn't start to shrink up by then I'd be questioning the gear.
I can gain 15 lbs easy on 1/2 gram test/week no problem. Sure, alot of it is water.
gsxr750
19-10-2008, 04:33 PM
Sorry lol my post had more to do with a guy running Clen and T3 and expecting to lose 30LBS while eating Mcdonalds at 2am.
But it was totalllly the gears fault.. :)
i cant believe this thread is still running strong......
Big D
19-10-2008, 05:33 PM
ya this thread has to stop.
chan_ho_nam
19-10-2008, 09:52 PM
strong confession haha
anyway yah. My batch number matches with what gsxr posted, and i cant say its workin.
What? We're talking about shaving cream no?
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