Ufc 92

[Shogun]

-Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira (#2 Heavyweight in the World)* vs. Frank Mir
-Forrest Griffin (#1 Light Heavyweight in the World)* vs. Rashad Evans (#4 Light Heavyweight in the World)*
-Quinton Jackson (#2 Light Heavyweight in the World)* vs. Wanderlei Silva (#6 Light Heavyweight in the World)*
-Mustapha Al-Turk vs. Cheick Kongo
-C.B. Dollaway vs. Jorge Rivera
-Ivan Serati vs. TBA

http://www.mmaweekly.com/absolutenm/templates/dailynews.asp?articleid=7248&zoneid=2

Thats what I call a ****ing fight card. WAR WANDY!

[Redz]

It will be interesting to see if Frank Mir can re-claim the belt then he'll likely re-match Lesnar to unify the belt/interim belt early in the new year. I think Lesnar would take him in a re-match.

[Shogun]

Awesome to finally see more then one title fight on one card, UFC has been putting on some very medicore cards latly

[Mr.Freeze]

this Card is about the best they can do. lol

[Kiem]

Great card. The first 3 fights can all be main events. Looking forward to it.

[muscleshark]

Wow they're thowin' Rampage to the lions for his first fight after losing the belt. Wandy fackin destroyed Rampage in Pride. I see Silva fighting for the belt real soon.

[Shogun]

I think if Wand wins this he's next in line right after machida/silva fights the winner of forrest/evans

[O-Train]

I'm excited about this one. Best fight card I've seen in a while. I'm picking Rashad over Griffen, Nog over Mir and Wandy over Rampage. Should be entertaining.

[St]

It will be a great card,but Rampage has change camp.Plus he doesn't just Brawl anymore like Pride.He beat some good guys in the UFC,just look at Henderson,and Wandy got knock the **** out by Henderson,and Rampage beat henderson.He beat Chuck,and wandy lost to chuck,he had one win in the UFC wandy,and he couldn't beat Tito in UFC 25,that is what make UFC so great.

[BAM]

..........

[BAM]

I'm picking Rashad over Griffen, Nog over Mir and Wandy over Rampage. Should be entertaining.

agreed

[trykillthis]

agreed

me too.

[turboturist]

I'm excited about this one. Best fight card I've seen in a while. I'm picking Rashad over Griffen, Nog over Mir and Wandy over Rampage. Should be entertaining.

I am gonna go out on a limb and say I am picking exactly the opposite on all three bouts.

[O-Train]

I am gonna go out on a limb and say I am picking exactly the opposite on all three bouts.

Interesting. I'll wager you some positive karma that at least 2 out of my 3 picks will be right (and vice versa for you). I know you follow MMA, you did see what happened the last time Rampage and Wandy fought right?

[turboturist]

Interesting. I'll wager you some positive karma that at least 2 out of my 3 picks will be right (and vice versa for you). I know you follow MMA, you did see what happened the last time Rampage and Wandy fought right?

Ya in the second fight I seen Ramp dominating until he got caught. Ramp is training dif then he was then and Wand is not the same guy. Besides I cant bet against Ramp despite all the personal BS I still like him as a fighter and entertainer.

And a couple of years ago I would of said for sure Nog would beat Mir, but lately Mir has looked like he has finally recovered from the leg break and Nog.... well its about time he was the one that is upset. Just a feeling.

And I cant fukin stand rashad, I hope Forrest comes out with the win on this one. And sure I will wager some Karma.

[St]

Ya in the second fight I seen Ramp dominating until he got caught. Ramp is training dif then he was then and Wand is not the same guy. Besides I cant bet against Ramp despite all the personal BS I still like him as a fighter and entertainer.

And a couple of years ago I would of said for sure Nog would beat Mir, but lately Mir has looked like he has finally recovered from the leg break and Nog.... well its about time he was the one that is upset. Just a feeling.

And I cant fukin stand rashad, I hope Forrest comes out with the win on this one. And sure I will wager some Karma.


Ya my picks are Rampage,Forrest,Nog.

[trykillthis]

Ya in the second fight I seen Ramp dominating until he got caught. Ramp is training dif then he was then and Wand is not the same guy. Besides I cant bet against Ramp despite all the personal BS I still like him as a fighter and entertainer.



But since he fought Wand last he found GOD.:rolleyes: That means nothing good for his fights. Whenever people find god they aren't as mean as they used to be. Sure fire way to end your fighting career is to find GOD.

[Kiem]

Ya my picks are Rampage,Forrest,Nog.

X2

[Hatebreed]

Ya my picks are Rampage,Forrest,Nog.

X3

[turboturist]

But since he fought Wand last he found GOD.:rolleyes: That means nothing good for his fights. Whenever people find god they aren't as mean as they used to be. Sure fire way to end your fighting career is to find GOD.

He found god far before their last fight. In an interview before there second fight he apologized for saying that when he looked at Wand he knew that evolution was true because of how much Wand resembled a monkey.

He apologized then because he had an insulted god saying he did not exist, not because he insulted Wand.

Look it up man, he has been religious for a few years now.

[turboturist]

And Wand is very religious so even if your statement about Ramp was correct, which it is not, what would your excuse for Wand being called the Ax Murderer?

[trykillthis]

Having a religion is one thing. But being a thumper and doing all you training to a biblical theme and having god visit you in your dreams is a very different cat. Rampage has lost it. And it all started with him having god come to him in a dream. I wonder what god thinks of hit-and-run. I guess we`ll see.

[St]

And Wand is very religious so even if your statement about Ramp was correct, which it is not, what would your excuse for Wand being called the Ax Murderer?

I was going to put that up the Wandy is religious,but you are right ,and same a Rampage there both,same as me,and i'm crazy as well love blood.

[gordi]

I'm totally stoked to watch this card. If we're making picks I'll go Big Nog (he's just on another level compared to Mir), Wandy (I think that Rampage is off his game and Wandy is on his... but we'll see), and Rashad in a minor upset (Griff has been on a great run, but it can't go on forever... or can it?). All three have the potential to be GREAT fights, tough and entertaining.

[macka]

Nog will win by submission although it can still be won by a lucky punch

Wandy for sure

Griffin will win, that guy is like a timex watch, its unreal. If he couldn't take a beating, he wouldn't be top ranked.

[muscleshark]

Rampage is comming into this fight with three things on his mind: 1. Dana Mother****in White just ripped me off the title and gave it to that big eared dumbo cornshuckin hillbilly honky Forrest Griffin. 2. I have to fight this ugly ass motha****a who looks more like a monkey than Forrest does AND he allready knocked me the **** out twice!! 3. I found God. He can be my crutch when all hell breaks loose. Maybe he can instoke mercy upon Wandy just before he rams his knee into my head for the 25th time and give me a chance to wash my sins clean by inflicting violence and pain upon my opponent.

Mir is still a ****in bum, but on the other hand Nogiera is lookin pretty freakin haggard these days and walkin a little stiff, so in that fight, anything could possibly happen.

I really hope Forrest Gump...I meant, Griffin, wakes up after gettin KTFO'ed and starts ballin his eyes out and runs like Gump all the way to the locker room like he did when Jardine threw down on him.
All in all I think there will be 3 big knock outs in the 3 main events.

[gordi]

I think that "big eared dumbo cornshuckin hillbilly honky" would be a million times better nickname for Forrest than anything that he could come up with. I'd totally wear a Forrest "big eared dumbo cornshuckin hillbilly honky" Griffin t-shirt.

[trykillthis]

Rampage is comming into this fight with three things on his mind: 1. Dana Mother****in White just ripped me off the title and gave it to that big eared dumbo cornshuckin hillbilly honky Forrest Griffin. 2. I have to fight this ugly ass motha****a who looks more like a monkey than Forrest does AND he allready knocked me the **** out twice!! 3. I found God. He can be my crutch when all hell breaks loose. Maybe he can instoke mercy upon Wandy just before he rams his knee into my head for the 25th time and give me a chance to wash my sins clean by inflicting violence and pain upon my opponent.

Mir is still a ****in bum, but on the other hand Nogiera is lookin pretty freakin haggard these days and walkin a little stiff, so in that fight, anything could possibly happen.

I really hope Forrest Gump...I meant, Griffin, wakes up after gettin KTFO'ed and starts ballin his eyes out and runs like Gump all the way to the locker room like he did when Jardine threw down on him.
All in all I think there will be 3 big knock outs in the 3 main events.

Couldn't have said it better myself. Griffen should have never have gotten that belt in the first place. Crookedest decision since the Bisping\Hamil fight in England.

[O-Train]

Couldn't have said it better myself. Griffen should have never have gotten that belt in the first place. Crookedest decision since the Bisping\Hamil fight in England.

I'm glad other people remember the Bisping\Hamil fight. What a joke that decision was, I hate Bisping.

[gordi]

Couldn't have said it better myself. Griffen should have never have gotten that belt in the first place. Crookedest decision since the Bisping\Hamil fight in England.

Really? I just re-watched the fight.... and I don't see it that way. Bisping vs. Hamill was obviously the wrong decision, I totally agree with you there... but as for Griffin vs. Jackson: Rampage clearly took the first round. In the second, Griffin hurt Rampage's leg pretty badly, and Forrest clearly won the second and the third rounds as Rampage figured out how to stay in the ass-kicking contest with only one leg. Jackson came back strong in the fourth, and I'd easily give him that one... It was really down to who dominated in the final round, and neither man did. Rampage was probably too hurt to give his all, and Griffin seemed to be scared of taking a KO punch and content to mostly keep his distance. They totally left it in the judges' hands. I'd have given it to Rampage, but I don't think it was anywhere near the robbery that Bisping vs. Hamill was.

According to David Samuels' story in The Atlantic:

Judge Adalaide Byrd had Rampage winning the last two rounds and Griffin the first three, while Nelson Hamilton had Rampage winning the first round and the fourth round and Roy Silbert had Griffin winning every round except the fourth.

And I really don't see how two judges gave Griffin the 1st round after Rampage knocked him down... but still, I could see 48-47 for Griffin (as Nelson Hamilton had it) as being a totally reasonable call.

[srt8]

I gave that fight to Griffin for sho!

[trykillthis]

You have to DEFINATIVELY beat the reigning champ not squeek by with leg kicks. He didn't want rampage near him cause he was scared. Not the fighting tactic of a champion. Guess we'll see tomorrow if he really is champ material or if were gonna have one win champs for a while.

[spankmonkey]

Anyone know of an online link to this fight card?

[BAM]

http://www.mmahacks.com/

Use internet explorer if you want it to work.

[gojimmygo]

http://www.mmahacks.com/

Use internet explorer if you want it to work.

Thanks Bam...you da man.

Jimmy

[Descimus]

http://wrestlinglivetv.*********/livestream.htm
dunno if it against the rule to post this but i think they are going to stream it on this.
if it was against the rule i am really sorry :)

[BAM]

http://www.mmahacks.com/

Use internet explorer if you want it to work.

This link is functioning.

click on stream at the upper left on that page.

[turboturist]

Interesting. I'll wager you some positive karma that at least 2 out of my 3 picks will be right (and vice versa for you). I know you follow MMA, you did see what happened the last time Rampage and Wandy fought right?

So green now or later? :)

2 for 2 so far.

[turboturist]

haha fukers, to those who said Wand had Ramps #.

[Descimus]

freakin nice show up to now, i am after mir / nog

[O-Train]

So green now or later? :)

2 for 2 so far.

Yeah yeah, Wandy and Nog looked old and beaten up (before the fights). I still don't like Mir and Rampage though. Ref stepped in way too quickly when Nog got knocked down. They let Kongo hammer on the English guy for almost a minute. With Nog, one of the most durable guys in MMA history the ref instantly stops it? Mir still deserved the win though. K for you.

I feel bad for Hamil being on the undercard.

[UkrainianGuy]

mir looks awesome.. and lets face it the old war horses are fading imo... bye bye wander and nor

[shithead]

This main event will be a tough call

[BAM]

Go Forest!

[shithead]

I think Evans might take it.

[O-Train]

Thank god...at least I got 1.

[gordi]

Hot DAMN that was an entertaining card. Top to bottom, that was one "Holy crap!" moment after another.

[UkrainianGuy]

SUGA !!!!

[turboturist]

Yeah yeah, Wandy and Nog looked old and beaten up (before the fights). I still don't like Mir and Rampage though. Ref stepped in way too quickly when Nog got knocked down. They let Kongo hammer on the English guy for almost a minute. With Nog, one of the most durable guys in MMA history the ref instantly stops it? Mir still deserved the win though. K for you.

I feel bad for Hamil being on the undercard.

Well Ramp has been my fav fighter for years, and Mir's little chat after the fight could not have more honest I dont think.

At first I was thinking the Mir/Nog was called early but then you see Nog still stumbling around half a minute later and at that time know it was a legit stoppage.

[O-Train]

Well Ramp has been my fav fighter for years, and Mir's little chat after the fight could not have more honest I dont think.

At first I was thinking the Mir/Nog was called early but then you see Nog still stumbling around half a minute later and at that time know it was a legit stoppage.

Yeah. I'll have to agree with Joe Rogan for once. It just looked like Nog has been hit in the head too many times. I wonder what Wandy and Nog will do after this.

There was a couple kickboxers on the undercard that were impressive. Both of them heavyweights. I like watching kickboxers a lot, they are always exciting if it stays on the feet.

[guest]

i love stand up too. a lot of exciting muay thai and K1 fighters disappoint in the cage :(

[gordi]

I wonder what Wandy and Nog will do after this.



Ride out the rest of their UFC contracts, then go to Japan and milk their name value for another few years. Those guys have fighting in their blood. I don't see either of them hanging it up any time soon, even if their bodies are telling them they should. And, hell, I'll pay to see them fight if they come to Osaka.

[gustavo77]

Great card. My only disappointment was Rampage hitting Wandy 3 times after the ref stepped in. Wandy's body was just vibrating. I lost a ton of respect for Rampage after that. Vendetta or not, you do not hit someone 3 times after they are already out. Good way to end a guy's career and I think that was just what Jackson was aiming for. POS move IMO...**** him and his new born faith in God.

[St]

Well Ramp has been my fav fighter for years, and Mir's little chat after the fight could not have more honest I dont think.

At first I was thinking the Mir/Nog was called early but then you see Nog still stumbling around half a minute later and at that time know it was a legit stoppage.

Yep Rampage is my Favorite fighter then GSP,but so many people at the Bar i was at ,were so mad that Jackson won.Sad for Nog great guy but muscleshark was right about Nog he does look beat up.What can i say Mir looked amazing glad after the fight he went to the fence to call out Brock next haha.

[turboturist]

.**** him and his new born faith in God.

Why does everyone keep saying this? Its not new!

And ya the extra punches were excessive, but Wand is not innocent in this regard either. How bout those extra head stomps against Kondo?

[Monka]

Oh, Wand has done worst imo, it's Karma, and his number was up, Adreniline make you do stupid things, Ramp shouldnt have continued but he was just trying to pay Wandi back

[champcar99]

Great card. My only disappointment was Rampage hitting Wandy 3 times after the ref stepped in. Wandy's body was just vibrating. I lost a ton of respect for Rampage after that. Vendetta or not, you do not hit someone 3 times after they are already out. Good way to end a guy's career and I think that was just what Jackson was aiming for. POS move IMO...**** him and his new born faith in God.

I agree , I think Rampage is not all there.. some screws missing in that god loving head of his but I think like that of any religious idiot..

[turboturist]

Having a religion is one thing. But being a thumper and doing all you training to a biblical theme and having god visit you in your dreams is a very different cat. Rampage has lost it.

Care to comment now on how finding God affected his performance in this fight?

[trykillthis]

Sure, he looked good, counter fighting anyways. Anyone has a punchers chance of winning against Wand. He always eats a few trying to get his in, just ate the wrong ones in this fight. I never realized that Rampage made such a large change in training camps and apparently its worked for him. I still think he's nuts and I will always bet against the thumper or anyone wearing that "Jesus Didn't Tap" shit.

[St]

Care to comment now on how finding God affected his performance in this fight?


You right Turbo he found god in Pride,also the shot after he was down is just the way guys train many guys do this,he didn't kwon he was knocked out ,Jackson isn't a cheap shot artist.

[champcar99]

I guess Jesus was guiding Rampage when he was in that car chase that ended up killing a unborn baby...****ING STUPID ****...LETS SEE IF JESUS IS IN HIS CORNER WHEN THE CIVIL SUIT HAPPENS....**** HIM

[turboturist]

You right Turbo he found god in Pride,also the shot after he was down is just the way guys train many guys do this,he didn't kwon he was knocked out ,Jackson isn't a cheap shot artist.

And if guys paid attention they would of noticed he went over to Wand after the little victory lap to see if he was ok. That tells me the extra shots were not intended to injure he was just amped up.

[gustavo77]

And if guys paid attention they would of noticed he went over to Wand after the little victory lap to see if he was ok. That tells me the extra shots were not intended to injure he was just amped up.

**** that. Rampage threw 3 not one but 3 punches to Wandy's head after the ref stepped in. He is a tool IMO for doing that, no class at all. Everyone knows that it is the punches after the knockout punch that do the real damage. Wandy will probably never be the same after this one.

[turboturist]

**** that. Rampage threw 3 not one but 3 punches to Wandy's head after the ref stepped in. He is a tool IMO for doing that, no class at all. Everyone knows that it is the punches after the knockout punch that do the real damage. Wandy will probably never be the same after this one.

Wandy was not the same before this one and Wand has done it a few times as well so karma is a bitch. Just cause your boy got fukin owned does not mean you need to pout about it. :D

[St]

Wandy was not the same before this one and Wand has done it a few times as well so karma is a bitch. Just cause your boy got fukin owned does not mean you need to pout about it. :D


Yep Cro-cop won by TKO,Henderson droppes a few shots on him after he knock him out in Pride TKO,now Jackson TKO.He lost 4 of his last 5 fight.Ya i did see Jackson go see if he was okay after the TKO.Even Coleman had problems with Wandy after the Rua fight in Pride when Rua broke hin arm.

[macka]

I guess Jesus was guiding Rampage when he was in that car chase that ended up killing a unborn baby...****ING STUPID ****...LETS SEE IF JESUS IS IN HIS CORNER WHEN THE CIVIL SUIT HAPPENS....**** HIM

You know everybody ****s up. What a person believes doesn't give you the right to hold them on a pedestal for a higher judgement. One day when you **** up you wouldn't want people talking shit about you like that.

[gustavo77]

Wandy was not the same before this one and Wand has done it a few times as well so karma is a bitch. Just cause your boy got fukin owned does not mean you need to pout about it. :D

Actually bud, i was going for Rampage in that fight. But after the 3 needless punches while Wandy was out, i now think Rampage is a douche.

You should know what the **** you are talking about before spewing off at the mouth bud.

[turboturist]

Actually bud, i was going for Rampage in that fight. But after the 3 needless punches while Wandy was out, i now think Rampage is a douche.

You should know what the **** you are talking about before spewing off at the mouth bud.

I was not spewing, I read your previous post about you saying you had respect for Ramp but lost some of it etc etc. Maybe you should learn to take a joke, I was taking a shot for fun, hence the big smile at the end of my previous post.

And as I said by your assessment of Ramp because of the 3 extra punches Wand must be a douche as well because of some of his past fights.

[turboturist]

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Only one example of Wand hitting someone after they are clearly out.

Anything after the first stomp (about 2:50) could be considered excessive, and all of them while holding the ropes for balance which was illegal.

[tex]

its fighting....those xtra punches are in the heat of the moment with adrenaline thru the f'n roof....cant blame a guy for lettin a few xtra go.....happens soo goddman fast......

[gustavo77]

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Only one example of Wand hitting someone after they are clearly out.

Anything after the first stomp (about 2:50) could be considered excessive, and all of them while holding the ropes for balance which was illegal.


Huge difference between this and what Rampage did. As soon as the ref jumped in Wandy stopped. Rampage smoke Wandy three times after the ref jumped in. The ref even had to push Rampage to get him to stop. I understand the adrenaline issue but those shots that Rampage through after the ref jumped in were clearly personal cheap shots.

Sorry if i got a bit defensive, i just do not like when people make assumptions and judgments before they even know what the other person is thinking. Again, i was going for Rampage in this fight, he just lost my support with those cheap ass shots. He will get his though... mabe we will even see Anderson Silva beat Rampage's ass before Silva retires. That would be sweet.

[St]

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Only one example of Wand hitting someone after they are clearly out.

Anything after the first stomp (about 2:50) could be considered excessive, and all of them while holding the ropes for balance which was illegal.

Oh man that was bad what a dick haha.

[trykillthis]

I don't see whats so bad about that clip. I counted only 1 kick after he was out. And he stopped as soon as the ref jumped in. Look to the Herring/Nog fight to see what happens when you pull back to much before a guy is all the way out. And needless to say, comparing UFC to Pride is like apples and oranges.

[turboturist]

Huge difference between this and what Rampage did. As soon as the ref jumped in Wandy stopped. Rampage smoke Wandy three times after the ref jumped in. The ref even had to push Rampage to get him to stop. I understand the adrenaline issue but those shots that Rampage through after the ref jumped in were clearly personal cheap shots.



I see your point but I dont think he was consciously thinking of it. As tex said it happens pretty quick.

[macka]

Pro or amateur in a fight when the hormones rage, stopping is hard to do.

[slick rick]

I agree.. it all happens in a matter of seconds, I don't hold it against Rampage. Great win for him.

[gustavo77]

I see your point but I dont think he was consciously thinking of it. As tex said it happens pretty quick.

Ya i guess it is easy for us to sit back and judge but there is no way to know what's going on in a guy's head unless you are there in the Octagon yourself.

[UkrainianGuy]

The Nevada State Athletic Commission on Monday released medical suspensions arising from Saturday’s UFC 92 at the MGM Grand Garden Arena in Las Vegas.

Most injured fighters received two months for their suspensions, with many receiving the stipulation they must see a specialist before being cleared to fight again.

Forrest Griffin is suspended until Feb. 12 for a left hand injury sustained in his fight with Rashad Evans. Griffin must have the hand x-rayed and cleared by an orthopedic doctor or he will not be allowed to fight until June 27, 2009.

Antonio Rodrigo Nogueria is suspended until Feb. 27 following his TKO loss to Frank Mir.

Mike Massenzio is suspended until Jan. 28 following his TKO loss to C.B. Dollaway

Wanderlei Silva is suspended until Feb. 27 following his knockout loss to Quinton Jackson.

Mostapha Al Turk sustained a broken nose in his ground and pound loss to Cheick Kongo, and must have it cleared by an ear, nose, and throat specialist before being cleared to fight. In addition, he must avoid contact until Feb. 12 for the lacerations over his left eye and on the top of his head. His minimum suspension from competition runs until Feb. 27, 2009, and unless he sees the specialist, will be out until June 27.

Mike Wessel is suspended until Feb. 12 for his TKO loss to C.B. Dollaway.

Matt Hamill is suspended until Feb. 12 and is forbidden from contact until Jan. 28 for a cut under his left eye that he sustained in his victory over Reese Andy.

Andy is required to have a CT Scan of his face to rule out an orbital fracture. His minimum suspension runs until Feb. 27, and is forbidden from contact until Feb. 12.

Brad Blackburn is required to gain clearance from a neurologist for tingling and numbness in his left arm following his decision win over Ryo Chonan. He also needs to be cleared by an ear, nose, and throat doctor for a nasal fracture. His minimum suspension runs until Feb. 12, with no contact until Jan. 28.

Dan Evensen must be cleared by an orthopedist for a left knee injury sustained in his fight with Pat Barry. His minimum suspension runs until Jan. 28, with no contact until Jan. 19.

For his part, Barry is barred from contact until Jan. 19 for an undisclosed injury to his right elbow.