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BryanWilliams
02-10-2008, 02:01 AM
is so far beyond ridiculous it hurts my head- i can only IMAGINE the behind the scenes pm's people are making here the past coupla months
this is not a place to buy ****ing steroids people, but it seems many people think it is- not calling anyone out, personally, but jesus
i really dont know what to say

i think im losing my mind here for real, this board has so much potential, id hate to see it go the way of cjm, or worse, ssb

pinhead
02-10-2008, 02:07 AM
Amen brother. Amen.

Get wise people.

BryanWilliams
02-10-2008, 02:09 AM
Yes and the lab talk is getting ridiculous. It was 100x better with no lab talk. Too much shit out in the open that shouldn't be there.

you never call me anymore
and yes, i agree

guest
02-10-2008, 02:11 AM
you never call me anymore
and yes, i agree


...and you never call me anymore=( wtf?

gustavo77
02-10-2008, 05:54 AM
I'm with Flexy on this one. Having a pic section with pics posted of various labs is cool but i think after the pics are posted, the threads should be closed. As far as discussion of the labs themselves, quality etc, I think that should be made a section restricted to vets only.

Genetic Lifestyle
02-10-2008, 06:05 AM
Agree 100%, I'm new here but have had PM's of "One post" NEWBIES Asking for "HELP".
We better do something soon...

pseclint
02-10-2008, 08:53 AM
im a cop.......

pseclint
02-10-2008, 08:55 AM
im a cop.......

im not really, but how many people just shit a little

Gettin'r'round
02-10-2008, 09:03 AM
there are probably cops here but they looking for info like the rest of us.

BolicPower
02-10-2008, 09:58 AM
there are probably cops here but they looking for info like the rest of us.
for sure LE is on the boards, and i'm sure asking everyone they can for a source and will buy small amounts, then sources are ****ed..in time over of cource as this will be a big bust again, imo they are just getting peoples names , addys, etc.. getting scarry. Who's to know?? So one can log on from any where, and contribute for months and i know most will gain trust and they's get sooo much info, be bad. i hope people are quiet with their source.

Seth
02-10-2008, 10:17 AM
As far as lab talk, I liked freeze's idea(from his thread in the gear pics board). You make a thread with a poll and pictures, then lock it. No unwanted info will be posted that way. From then its clear cut, people who want to voice their opinion in terms of liking/disliking can do it, and further lab talk is just asking for it

theboss
02-10-2008, 10:19 AM
agree with flexy...

to many newbs looking for info = heat...

i appreciate the help & info i recieve from members but damn..these guys just out & out ask if you will sell to them....sorry aint gonna happen.

Gettin'r'round
02-10-2008, 10:21 AM
what I meant to say that LE are here looking for advice on how to train/cycle/eat/relationship advice (lol). I wonder how much juice from the busts just disappears before it's cataloged into evidence??? Just like the cop's drinking the beer they bust from underage drinkers at bush parties. (or so I've heard...)

Baconbits
02-10-2008, 10:23 AM
. Perhaps there should be a private section of the board where long-standing and respected members can speak on these matters? The biggest issues I can see are stemming from the new(er) members fishing for sources..

Just my 2cc's for it's worth..

I agree 100 posts minimum

ergie
02-10-2008, 10:25 AM
Lab talk is ok but what wrecks it is all of the reps trying to recruit, not really anyway to stop it though. If anybody recieves unsolicited pm's contact MP and have them banned, thats one way we can cut down on idiots doing this.

Bowlcut
02-10-2008, 10:38 AM
I agree 100 posts minimum

I would rather see a time limit.
12 months is ideal.

Baconbits
02-10-2008, 10:42 AM
I would rather see a time limit.
12 months is ideal.

How about both 12 months and at least 100 posts minimum?

theboss
02-10-2008, 10:46 AM
How about both 12 months and at least 100 posts minimum?

list me....LOL

Bowlcut
02-10-2008, 10:47 AM
How about both 12 months and at least 100 posts minimum?

Yeah.
Offtopic posts should not count.

By a year we should have a good idea if a member is a douche bag like Cranky and deserves no love.

Big D
02-10-2008, 10:49 AM
everyone here has great Ideas we're gonna have to do something about it soon though, i've noticed a huge change on this board just in one week.

gojimmygo
02-10-2008, 10:56 AM
i've noticed a huge change on this board just in one week.

Ain't that the truth

Seth
02-10-2008, 10:57 AM
actually, if you guys check the feedback thread in the gear pics forum, MP has already taken a decision, so I guess we'll all find out pretty soon. I personally didn't take any chance and saved everything I find valuable, in case I get locked out for several months.

slick rick
02-10-2008, 10:59 AM
How about both 12 months and at least 100 posts minimum?


I'd go with referral only, post count means dick.

ZeOne
02-10-2008, 12:14 PM
In the feedback thread, I proposed 50 posts AND 1 month in order to discourage post whoring/ fake 1 post testimonies.

12 month is a bit much IMHO, not because it is exaggerated but because CBB is also reaping the benefits traffic wise from the pictures section. So if the time is really high, then members will get discouraged and leave, and MP will lose traffic.

I think 50 posts AND 1 month is a win-win condition.



P.S: If it is technically possible, it would be nice to exclude from the 50 posts requirement the ones that are posted in the off-topic section.

pseclint
02-10-2008, 12:31 PM
referral for sure is the ONLY way to go...... easiest way to keep things safe, i just know it will never happen for some reason

Gettin'r'round
02-10-2008, 12:32 PM
I'd go with referral only, post count means dick.

what about us loners?

12 months, ouch... there I go into the dark night...fawk

maybe just set up a private vet section of 10 of the top posters and other people of credibility and nonpartisanship to answer newbs lab questions?

beserker
02-10-2008, 12:46 PM
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Kronis
02-10-2008, 01:34 PM
1. 1 Month
2. 50 posts, NOT including those in Off-topic sections.
3. HIDE the section. It's easy to make a section invisible until members fulfill the requirements.

OR the referral idea should work just fine. Would make the section a little smaller but would be the safest bet.

drdnj
02-10-2008, 01:40 PM
I'd go with referral only, post count means dick.

I AGREE!
Good point!

Big D
02-10-2008, 01:44 PM
I don't think a time-limit or post count is what's neccessary.. I know numerous members on here with a low post count that I would trust with almost anything, and personally vouche for any day of the week

You need to have references of long-standing, trusted, and respected members of this community. If you walk on to this board, but there's 12 legit members that will vouche for you, you should be allowed to have full access to the board from day one

If you come here, wait it out a month or two, rack up 72 retarded posts.. Why should that allow you full access/membership? It shouldn't, period. Quality over quantity.

This board has an incredible ammount of potential, and the way it's grown so far is outstanding.. I would hate to see that go down the drain.

good point, I agree 100%

kloan
02-10-2008, 01:49 PM
i admit I came on here initially with the intention of trying to find a source, since that's what I thought people did.. it was mentioned on another forum, and that's how I found this one.

But once I got here, I realized this is a good board with a lot of good members and useful information, and people on here don't generally bash each other like so many other members on other boards seem to do.

That's why I'm not 'fishing' or PM'ing anyone, or anything else like that, because I want people to think I'm here because I actually want to be a member of this community, and not just another faceless name looking to find gear, or worse, some schmuck narc looking to screw with people.

I would hate to think I could be pushed out though because I'm new, don't have references, or post count, or enough time here, etc.

AlbertaBeef
02-10-2008, 02:11 PM
I came here just looking for freinds.......What I found was a family

Just kidding, I was really looking for some good porn :sex

Boulderer77
02-10-2008, 02:12 PM
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ZeOne
02-10-2008, 02:13 PM
I don't think a time-limit or post count is what's neccessary.. I know numerous members on here with a low post count that I would trust with almost anything, and personally vouche for any day of the week

You need to have references of long-standing, trusted, and respected members of this community. If you walk on to this board, but there's 12 legit members that will vouche for you, you should be allowed to have full access to the board from day one

If you come here, wait it out a month or two, rack up 72 retarded posts.. Why should that allow you full access/membership? It shouldn't, period. Quality over quantity.

This board has an incredible ammount of potential, and the way it's grown so far is outstanding.. I would hate to see that go down the drain.

Flexy, I agree with your point and it does make a lot of sens. The only issue I see is that we seem to be thinking from within the boundaries of our vision as members and we are forgetting MP and his need to grow the board by driving in more traffic.

He mentioned it himself how the new section brought in a lot of traffic, which boosted the forums (hence the ads revenues) and, in the long run, is essential for the survival of the board.

So by having the access to the section that drove so many new members as by referral only, new members recruitment and growth will slow down. Having it totally invisible as suggested earlier will have the same effect.

So have it read-only for non eligible members, and eligible members will be able to participate, whatever the criterion or criteria of eligibility might be, whether time and posts based, or referral based.

Big D
02-10-2008, 02:20 PM
ZeOne for MOD ;)

michealJ
02-10-2008, 03:47 PM
I'd go with referral only, post count means dick.

Well put!

I have been reading and on the boards since the Ripped canadian days ...I just dont say much.

slick rick
02-10-2008, 04:03 PM
Flexy, I agree with your point and it does make a lot of sens. The only issue I see is that we seem to be thinking from within the boundaries of our vision as members and we are forgetting MP and his need to grow the board by driving in more traffic.

He mentioned it himself how the new section brought in a lot of traffic, which boosted the forums (hence the ads revenues) and, in the long run, is essential for the survival of the board.

So by having the access to the section that drove so many new members as by referral only, new members recruitment and growth will slow down. Having it totally invisible as suggested earlier will have the same effect.

So have it read-only for non eligible members, and eligible members will be able to participate, whatever the criterion or criteria of eligibility might be, whether time and posts based, or referral based.


I say growth takes a back seat to the security of the members, sources and the labs as well. But it's not my site so who am i to say.

ZeOne
02-10-2008, 04:41 PM
I say growth takes a back seat to the security of the members, sources and the labs as well.

Well, it is not like anyone is twisting anybody's arms to make them post pictures and reviews. And the whole premise would still be the same that no one should be allowed to identify himself as a source even if he is dumb enough to want to do it anyways. And if that person is idiotic enough to publicly and irresponsibly announce his trade, then he will get nailed sooner or later, he doesn't need the pictures section to get caught.

So as far as security goes for both labs and members, I don't see the pictures section raising the risks by any significant margin.

The current concern has more to do with unfair lab bashing, biased lab reviewing and public feuding amongst reps than being afraid of putting specific people or specific information in jeopardy.



But it's not my site so who am i to say.


And this is why we can only make recommendations and voice our opinions, but ultimately, the decision is only for MP's to make and for us to live with.

physique
02-10-2008, 06:40 PM
I don't think the lab talk is such a major issue.. Personally if someone is happy with Lab A's product, or unhappy with Lab B's product they should be able to voice that opinion in a professional and mature manner. The key words being PROFESSIONAL and MATURE.

There's a fine line when it comes to lab talk, and yes, it can be a very heaty subject. Perhaps there should be a private section of the board where long-standing and respected members can speak on these matters? The biggest issues I can see are stemming from the new(er) members fishing for sources..

Just my 2cc's for it's worth..

i too agree with this. i dont think you need to get rid of lab talk. the vets know how to repsond to posts, its the newbies where the problem lies. Its time for MP to impliment his moderators! This would weed out the newbies with there fishing for sources on their posts. wont do anything in the terms of pms. but those receiving pms, either report them to MP or a mod, or just dont answer them.

The newbies getting sources from this site thru pms must be pming vets for help. so a vet amongest us is helping them. so we kind of only have ourselves to blame. If we all just buck up, especially the ones on here with vested interest and just look at the game as a whole instead of being greedy and risking EVERYONES safety, these newbies wouldnt come here post once and leave with a source.

kyle
02-10-2008, 07:52 PM
i too agree with this. i dont think you need to get rid of lab talk. the vets know how to repsond to posts, its the newbies where the problem lies. Its time for MP to impliment his moderators! This would weed out the newbies with there fishing for sources on their posts. wont do anything in the terms of pms. but those receiving pms, either report them to MP or a mod, or just dont answer them.

The newbies getting sources from this site thru pms must be pming vets for help. so a vet amongest us is helping them. so we kind of only have ourselves to blame. If we all just buck up, especially the ones on here with vested interest and just look at the game as a whole instead of being greedy and risking EVERYONES safety, these newbies wouldnt come here post once and leave with a source.

Agreed

Blitz-Test
02-10-2008, 09:12 PM
You cannot try to put restrictions on to stop LE, if they want something they will take it. Most defnatly, you think LE wont post 100 times to bust or have 12month account?

From what I have heard there are guys who sit at a computer 9-5 and just post on tons of drug related boards as a user and just someone trying to get info, they have there ips scrammbled and they can gather so much knowledge... Howver from what I have heard juice is in the bottom range of priority for these guys... People figuring out how to manufacure 60 000 pills of adam, or ways to import chemicals to make various derivatives of party drugs, are on the top of the list...

gettinripped
02-10-2008, 09:52 PM
That i am new here yet everyone needs to keep safe, like some say on here that the vets know what to say properly when addressing topics if they dont then they jepordize themselves, the members and the board owners and there sponsors. We all know that LE does hover around and look and watch and wait till someone posts a tidbit of info that they can use to help them with there map of when,where and how things get done or go down.
We all need to be vigilant if we want to continue what we are doing and not be silly and say something that will jepordize everyone's saftey and then after all is said and done and then we say to ourselves" Dam i wish i never said that"

The referal idea is a good one, that way you know if you can trust someone that you have known for a long time or know him personally, yet on the other side of this choice who knows who will rat you out when they are faced with a prison sentence or the LE breathing down there necks and they are wanting something from you or you will be someone's bitch in jail for abit .

So everyone KEEP SAFE and watch yourself, LE is and still are gathering info, why do u think it is so hard right now with customs ?

drdnj
02-10-2008, 10:20 PM
i too agree with this. i dont think you need to get rid of lab talk. the vets know how to repsond to posts, its the newbies where the problem lies. Its time for MP to impliment his moderators! This would weed out the newbies with there fishing for sources on their posts. wont do anything in the terms of pms. but those receiving pms, either report them to MP or a mod, or just dont answer them.

The newbies getting sources from this site thru pms must be pming vets for help. so a vet amongest us is helping them. so we kind of only have ourselves to blame. If we all just buck up, especially the ones on here with vested interest and just look at the game as a whole instead of being greedy and risking EVERYONES safety, these newbies wouldnt come here post once and leave with a source.

Well said!
Only issue is how do we define newbies....in terms of posts I would be a newbie....but I have competed since 1993. I don't need sources, so I wont be on a fishing trip anytime soon ;)

Doctor Sinister
03-10-2008, 08:17 AM
In my humble opinion, referral is the best way to go ... but remember folks that all of us have been "Newbies" at one time ...

Post counts and membership duration don't mean anything as far as security is concerned.

I've been out for a while but it seems like not much has changed :)

AlbertaBeef
03-10-2008, 01:34 PM
I honestly think you're damned if you do and damned if you don't on this. After being on various boards for a few years I have only seen/read of a few busts directly related to the board activity. These arrests were all arranged by using established, reputable members of whom they had found and threatened to charge unless they gave up info and had them directly help them using the forums. We can be as secure as we want but if they find somebody they can use, example; family man with career and reputation he will roll without a thought. Fortunately I cannot beleive AAS is a high priority but things change and with Canada being absorbed into a N. American union I think down the road it will be an issue especially as big pharmacies get involved.

Gettin'r'round
03-10-2008, 01:38 PM
You are all under arrest!!!

If ya want though just send me your stash and I'll let you go with a warning! :ne

:puff

Sean Summers
03-10-2008, 02:35 PM
List me.
SS

Realist
06-10-2008, 05:16 PM
We share our thoughts and experiences about food, diet, exercises, supps, sleep etc and of course ''other supps''.

It's part of our lifestyle, whether we actually partake in all of the above, or not, or are just curious, we consider ourselves to be in the same group. And we discuss things that are part of out lifestyle/Culture.

As for LE-yes I am sure they are on the boards. And they are probably also longtime members on many boards as well. Not, just new members! After all, on the Internet we are only Avatars and typed words. They do sit at computers 24/7.

I still wonder why members use their real pics in their Avatars...and openly admit to steroid usage? That is sending some sort of message to someone.

Anyway, if LE wants in-they'll get in.

Everyone has their opinion/itinery about alleged UG's etc.
Just like Everyone wants to be a Mod.

I don't think you'll ever really stop it.

Just my 2 cents.