Email reply directly from source regarding underdosed T400

[Dk]

well i think i got a batch of SA labs underdosed T400 when it went through that phase, here is what i said.

">hey, not at all complaining, just curious, i got an old batch of
>your test E 400mg/ml with the old spelling of the lab name before
>they shortened it.
>
>Anyway, word was this era was underdosed T400, and its seeming
>like
>mine is a bit underdosed 5 weeks in and not much change, dbol was
>great though by the way! just curious if you have dealt with this
>case in the past.
>
>If this is outta your hands no worries bro, im not gonna switch
>sources or anything, just felt like i needed to bring it to your
>attention."


this is what my source said

""hey bro,as i know test e is 250 or 300mg for about 1-2 month,sorry
but i didn´t know that
i can give you discount on next order to compensate this"

as far as the udnerdosing goes whatever, their a good lab, my real concern is i THOUGHT i was running 500mg, when ive only been running 250-350mg.

should i assume that mine is for sure underdosed and up the dose?

keep in mind im on my 5th week, so it should be kicked in by now, but i dont feel much different.

[tarnow]

well i think i got a batch of SA labs underdosed T400 when it went through that phase, here is what i said.

">hey, not at all complaining, just curious, i got an old batch of
>your test E 400mg/ml with the old spelling of the lab name before
>they shortened it.
>
>Anyway, word was this era was underdosed T400, and its seeming
>like
>mine is a bit underdosed 5 weeks in and not much change, dbol was
>great though by the way! just curious if you have dealt with this
>case in the past.
>
>If this is outta your hands no worries bro, im not gonna switch
>sources or anything, just felt like i needed to bring it to your
>attention."


this is what my source said

""hey bro,as i know test e is 250 or 300mg for about 1-2 month,sorry
but i didn´t know that
i can give you discount on next order to compensate this"

as far as the udnerdosing goes whatever, their a good lab, my real concern is i THOUGHT i was running 500mg, when ive only been running 250-350mg.

should i assume that mine is for sure underdosed and up the dose?

keep in mind im on my 5th week, so it should be kicked in by now, but i dont feel much different.

Bullshit. Try like 25 or 50mg.

[frenchy]

go with the omnas

[Dk]

Bullshit. Try like 25 or 50mg.

ffs. are you sure. that means im doing less then i would naturally

[gustavo77]

Bullshit. Try like 25 or 50mg.

lol...where did you get those numbers??

[gustavo77]

ffs. are you sure. that means im doing less then i would naturally

Don't listen to him, there is NO way that it is that underdosed. Up your dose a little and you will be fine. Trust me, the T-400 is good stuff.

[Bowlcut]

Are we allowed to put name up?
Don't wanna start pissing matches and see flame wars.

[drdnj]

I just ordered a bunch of this T400 (yesterday)....how long ago did this under dosed batch exist? Is there any way to tell if I get one of the "bad batches"?

[tarnow]

lol...where did you get those numbers??

Nowhere in particular, just very disappointed with the product compared to other batches. The batch I had was #Te650719 and there is no way there was 250-300 mg of test in there. I was shooting 2cc and still didn't feel anything.

[Big D]

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[Gettin'r'round]

After 5 weeks you should be feeling something big time.

[tiramisu]

it will be a couple of weeks before i can have an opinion

[Random Letters]

I used it last cycle and would NEVER purchase it or any of that labs products again. "Underdosed" is putting it lightly. When you supposedly run 1.2g of test/week and don't even get an increase in libido, there is something seriously wrong.

I actually just threw away 3 vials of it, since I know I'll never use it. A couple hundred $ down the shitter.

[Baconbits]

I used it last cycle and would NEVER purchase it or any of that labs products again. "Underdosed" is putting it lightly. When you supposedly run 1.2g of test/week and don't even get an increase in libido, there is something seriously wrong.

I actually just threw away 3 vials of it, since I know I'll never use it. A couple hundred $ down the shitter.

I would have tested it for you! lol!

[natenator]

I would have tested it for you! lol!
Werd! me too.

Has the garbage been picked up yet? lol

[Random Letters]

I would have tested it for you! lol!


Werd! me too.

Has the garbage been picked up yet? lol

Lol...why?

I just told you that it is completely useless. Why would you want to put it in your body?

*edit* just so there are no stones thrown, I understand that this lab has a solid reputation and apparently my experience is not typical, however, it was what it was for me. I was burnt for a more than a few hundred dollars, so they are off my list. Those that use and enjoy the lab, good for you.

[tiramisu]

I'd appreciate some specifics on which product we are talking about.
What blend of test, which label, picture?

thanks,

[Random Letters]

I'd appreciate some specifics on which product we are talking about.
What blend of test, which label, picture?

thanks,


Sorry mate, no UGL talk allowed according to CBB rules.

[gustavo77]

I used it last cycle and would NEVER purchase it or any of that labs products again. "Underdosed" is putting it lightly. When you supposedly run 1.2g of test/week and don't even get an increase in libido, there is something seriously wrong.

I actually just threw away 3 vials of it, since I know I'll never use it. A couple hundred $ down the shitter.

Wow, 3 full vials?? Wish i could afford to throw money like that away....lol.

[Random Letters]

Wow, 3 full vials?? Wish i could afford to throw money like that away....lol.

I wish I could too...

[gustavo77]

I wish I could too...

You should have kept them then and had your source replace them with something that will work for you. I am sure that there is something that this lab makes that would give you results. Ahh, but that neither here nor there as you have already thrown them away.

[Random Letters]

You should have kept them then and had your source replace them with something that will work for you. I am sure that there is something that this lab makes that would give you results. Ahh, but that neither here nor there as you have already thrown them away.

My source at the time of purchase (early 2008) was a little too far removed from the lab to really give a shit, unfortunately. He guarantees his HG gear, but ordering off the UG list means you're on your own.

I thought about what I could do with it, since it's not exactly a "returnable" item, and it is a lot of money to just throw away. I have no friends that use AAS, I wouldn't resell it, I wouldn't just mail it to a board member and I would not use it again myself. That left only two options, leave it laying around my house or pitch it.

I've tried other products from the lab...their Deca, Prop, Tren Ace and Dbol (all of which were purchased in the first quarter of 2008 and actually from two different sources). While none suffered from the absolute failure that was the T400, they were all only "okay".

Again, I don't mean to stir up trouble. I just didn't have a good experience with the lab. I wish that I had a source that could have "made it right", but I didn't. So, based on my experience I'd be a fool to use the lab again.

I understand that there are many many happy, repeat customers and that my experience is likely not typical.

[BAM]

Reminds me of discussions about empire.

[gustavo77]

My source at the time of purchase (early 2008) was a little too far removed from the lab to really give a shit, unfortunately. He guarantees his HG gear, but ordering off the UG list means you're on your own.

I thought about what I could do with it, since it's not exactly a "returnable" item, and it is a lot of money to just throw away. I have no friends that use AAS, I wouldn't resell it, I wouldn't just mail it to a board member and I would not use it again myself. That left only two options, leave it laying around my house or pitch it.

I've tried other products from the lab...their Deca, Prop, Tren Ace and Dbol (all of which were purchased in the first quarter of 2008 and actually from two different sources). While none suffered from the absolute failure that was the T400, they were all only "okay".

Again, I don't mean to stir up trouble. I just didn't have a good experience with the lab. I wish that I had a source that could have "made it right", but I didn't. So, based on my experience I'd be a fool to use the lab again.

I understand that there are many many happy, repeat customers and that my experience is likely not typical.


Sorry to hear that bro. There are lots of other products out there for you to try. I hope you find some that you are satisfied with.

[Mr Ontario]

Dunno about the rest of you...but if anyone ever posted wrote a in private message E-mail and put it on a board so everyone could see....I sure be never dealing with again. That's just wrong and what has it accomplished.

[giannos]

Nowhere in particular, just very disappointed with the product compared to other batches. The batch I had was #Te650719 and there is no way there was 250-300 mg of test in there. I was shooting 2cc and still didn't feel anything.

I used the exact same batch and felt nothing of over a gram a week.. used it for 6 full weeks.. nothing


I used it last cycle and would NEVER purchase it or any of that labs products again. "Underdosed" is putting it lightly. When you supposedly run 1.2g of test/week and don't even get an increase in libido, there is something seriously wrong.

I actually just threw away 3 vials of it, since I know I'll never use it. A couple hundred $ down the shitter.


x2 I was at 1.2 + grams a week and have NEVER used more than 650 in any cycle.. So ya there was a problem for sure.. I used the Dbol, it was strong as hell... But the T400 I would never buy again... I think bad batches can happen to any lab. But I am a bit bothered that with the lab tests they ran, they never included the T400.. By far the most popular vial they move. Why wouldn't you test your money maker ??

[Rhinobolt10]

I'm actually pretty sure that I got a some of this as well. Oddly enough it was one probably the most painful t400 for me to inject.

You know what... I still made progress in the gym. I'm not doubting this guy, but I really hate these threads... if someones going to start this kinda talk, then I want to know EVERYTHING. I want to know his lifts, how much progress he's made in the last 2 years, exactly what he's doing in the gym, exactly what he's eating, etc etc...

I don't know if I even gained 10lb on my first cycle, and kept maybe 5, and it was a half gram of test and 400 eq, that's a fairly big cycle for me right now. I've gained 20 pounds off of less than that, mostly because of my training and diet.

[gustavo77]

But I am a bit bothered that with the lab tests they ran, they never included the T400.. By far the most popular vial they move. Why wouldn't you test your money maker ??

Because it was not the lab themselves that ran the tests. Apparently, it was a friend of one of the reps.

[giannos]

Ah ok, that makes sense, thanks for the clarification gustavo


Good to see you around bro, I dont get out to the other boards as often especially XXL, you still posting on there ?

[gustavo77]

Ah ok, that makes sense, thanks for the clarification gustavo


Good to see you around bro, I dont get out to the other boards as often especially XXL, you still posting on there ?

Good to see you here also bro. Ya i post on XXL here and there. I like to keep in touch with those guys, it was my first home online. XXL for me was like going to elementary and high school for gear info, now i like to spread the word a little here and there, while i am still learning. I spent a lot of time now on here though...feels like home but with a lot more crazy siblings...lol.