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L3
29-09-2008, 05:02 PM
About four months ago I started the following cycle:

Winstrol
Week 1 – 50mg ed
Week 2 – 80mg
Week 3-6 – 100mg
Tbol
Week 1-8 – 40mg ed
Var
Week 1 – 8 – 40mg ed

I had my blood work done before (~1 month before) and after (~4 weeks after pct finished).

Pct was:
Clomid
Week 1 - 150mg ed
Nolva
Week 2-3 - 20mg ed


Here’s the comparison:

Test (normal range)

Free Test (31-94)
Pre – 42.1
Post – 102.2

Creatinine (60-110)
Pre – 95
Post – 123

Urate (200-440)
Pre – 242
Post – 263

Vitb12 (>150)
Pre - 508
Post - 511

CK (<225)
Pre – 204
Post – 653

GGT (<60)
Pre – 19
Post – 29

AST (<37)
Pre – 37
Post -49

ALT (<46)
Pre – 67
Post – 59

RBC (4.2-5.7)
Pre – 4.91
Post – 5.21

Cholesterol (<5.2)
Pre - 3.77
Post - 4.27

Tryglicerides (<2.3)
Pre - 0.58
Post - 1.40

HDL (>1)
Pre - 1.26
Post - 1.32

LDL
Pre - 2.2
Post - 2.3

Ritch
29-09-2008, 07:15 PM
Not an expert with these tests, but why did you not get estrogen mesured?

GTZ3
29-09-2008, 11:52 PM
Wow buddy ... either the SHBG properties of winstrol last a long time (thus the high freetest) or you respond incredibly well to SERMS - either or, things look great bro.

Good to see the cholesterols in good shape aswell.

L3
30-09-2008, 12:36 AM
yah i was happy with cholesterol the liver values keep increasing :S

estradiol (<161)
pre - 119
post - 252

GTZ3
30-09-2008, 01:03 AM
Your estrogen is NOT elevated --- nolvadex can **** estrogen assays for up to 6 weeks after use. Nolva strucutrally mimcs estrogen in some ways, thus, blood tests cannot tell the difference. Kinda like Eq can show up as elevated testosterone on blood tests.

Carbonbase
30-09-2008, 08:48 AM
What is this one?

CK (<225)
Pre – 204
Post – 653

I remeber getting checked a few months after PCT and that was high still.
My doc told me that it was a liver enzyme but he did not seem to know what the **** he was talking about.

L3
30-09-2008, 09:03 AM
CK is released after muscle damage.. apparently bodybuilders and people post heart-attack have high levels

Carbonbase
30-09-2008, 09:42 AM
CK is released after muscle damage.. apparently bodybuilders and people post heart-attack have high levels

So basicaly my doc was really bullshitting me when he said that the steriods caused the high levels of CK. Basicaly i can be off the juice for 6 months, do a blood test and still get high CK levels?

L3
30-09-2008, 11:09 AM
well the juice would allow you to do more muscle damage thereby releasing more CK into the blood..so its indirectly responsible yes.

i would have to say that yes it does cause high ck... when the first test was taken i was working out 6 days a week natural and the levels were pretty low... the second test the intensity of my workouts was less...

Carbonbase
30-09-2008, 11:43 AM
I just found my blood test i did back in july 07...7 months afther PCT...
My CK level was at 240 and the values on the sheet are between 55-170.
That was the only thing highlighted as "high" on the test.