HCG question

[Carbonbase]

After 9 weeks of 600mg of test E your balls are like 50% the size they are usually. I did my first shot (500iu) yesterday and will run HCG for the next 4 weeks e3d.
This may be a stupid question but will that cause my balls to grow back?
How long will it take for me to notice a difference?
I'm asking cause I want to make sure that my HCG is working.

[Baconbits]

A Quote from Big Cat @ bb.com

Human chorionic gonadotrophin is a strange hormone. Its only found in the placenta of pregnant women. For women it has fairly little use if any however, but to the male athlete it has one interesting property. It can mimic the action of luteinizing hormone (LH) in the body. LH is a pituitary hormone that is released and signals the manufacture of testosterone in the testicles. The sex hormones in the body work via a negative feedback system, where too much sex hormone (like anabolic androgenic steroids and estrogens) causes a signal to the brain to stop the release of LH. During long duration cycles, if natural test stays suppressed for considerable time, a male user will begin to note an atrophy in his testicles, meaning they will visibly shrink purely out of disuse. By administering an LH-mimicking agent, one can bring back the function of the testicles and let them regain their size. This is the main use of HCG.

Since it forms testosterone in the body to some extent, it can impart certain performance enhancing properties, but usually these are not major. The side-effects accompanied with HCG use (usually androgenic such as extreme acne), its low rate of effect, the cost compared to more effective steroids and so on will mostly keep athletes from using it for that purpose. Moreover it can be tested for in athletic competitions, so most will stay clear of it. But to the steroid user HCG is an almost essential part of a cycle. Because of its effect on bringing testicle size back it can promote the return of natural testosterone, since the first natural signals can immediately deliver a higher yield of testosterone in the body. And getting natural testosterone back online after a cycle is crucial, especially if you intend to keep most of your hard-earned gains. Without adequate natural endocrine response you will not be able to maintain a mass that was higher than before.

The downside is that HCG too is suppressive of natural testosterone. Because it takes the place of LH. LH is not the first step in the chain of command, instead its manufactured in the pituitary under the response of Gonadotropin releasing hormone (GnRH) which is secreted from the hypothalamus. And since an LH mimicking agent is supplied exogenously, the negative feedback signal to the hypothalamus will still tell it to stop making GnRH, and so no natural LH is produced. This is why the product is always used in conjunction with a potent estrogen receptor antagonist like clomid or Nolvadex. When the androgen level in the body has dropped, these antagonists will lower estrogenic response creating a steroid deficit that signals the Hypothalamus to start making GnRH. When it does, after HCG therapy, testicle size is up again and shortly thereafter natural testosterone manufacture should return to normal. But therefore its crucial that users note that though HCG is essential after long cycles, it shouldn't be used without clomid or Nolvadex AND HCG should be discontinued at least two weeks before coming off Clomid or Nolvadex or else it will suppress natural testosterone itself.

Also important to take into account : using HCG for too long a period of time or in doses that are excessively high, can desensitize the testicles to the effect of LH and would put your right back where you started from. Basically that would mean you spent money to no avail. In terms of side-effects one should expect some androgenic signs such as acne and there is a risk for hair loss or prostate hypertrophy, but in most cases this compound will be used for 3-4 weeks, so these should not manifest themselves to any serious degree. There will also be some estrogen build-up, but since the user HAS to be on clomid or Nolvadex, this should not become apparent either. Next to this, HCG being a fertility drug, one should be aware that increased blood pressure and blood clotting can occur. HCG is clinically used to make women ovulate, or to invoke birth in pregnant women.

[trykillthis]

See this thread. Good Read.

http://www.canadabodybuilding.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3143

[Baconbits]

See this thread. Good Read.

http://www.canadabodybuilding.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3143

Agreed!

[Mr Ontario]

Ya..if it's real it shouldn't take long for them to start to get back to normal...Hell #1 amp 5000 ius spread over a 5 day period and the boys are back for me. But once again everyone is different!

Dido..on see this thread...good read :)

[jethro1984]

Not sure if you are aware of this OP, but HCG should be discontinued before you start your regular PCT. HCG should really be ran the last week or 2 of your cycle and last shot should be done the week before you start your Nolva/Clomid

[Carbonbase]

I'm doing 500iu's e3d for the next 3 weeks and my cycle ends in 2 weeks so...
and not taking any nolva and clomid.
Want to see how " I " will react to that.

[Seth]

I'm interested in the results of your "experience". I know hcg is suppressive of LH, but I've also been wondering how long it takes for LH to bounce back. It could be a viable alternative, keep us posted on what happens