TNT+IGF Need Opinions

[Blitz-Test]

What do you guys think of this cycle, it is a progressive pre contest prep cycle, so the last cycle before a contest prep which will mostlikely only be test+aromasin

Thinking along the lines of

1-8 Testosterone Prop: 143mg/eod (500mg/week)
1-8 Trenbolone Ace: 72mg/eod (250mg/week) or 107mg/eod (375mg/week)
1-5 IGF-LR3: 40mcg/pwo bilat (5 times a week)
1-5 hCG: 100IU/with IGF (500IU/week)
6-8 hCG: 415IU/2xweek (830IU/week)
9-10 Tamox: 40mg/ed
11-13 Tamox: 20mg/ed
12-13 Aromasin 25mg/eod

I was thinking of an oral for a kicker but, honestly TNT+IGF, no need for an oral lol

[The Terminator]

Shoot the tren and prop together everyday.

HCG just do 2 shots a week, 250 to 500IU per shot from the beginning.

Why the IGF? From some very respected people that I've talked to on various boards, the LR3 is a waste of money and doesn't cause hyperplasia in the slightest, which is what the initial claims were.

PCT should be fine. :)

Matt

[Blitz-Test]

Shoot the tren and prop together everyday.

HCG just do 2 shots a week, 250 to 500IU per shot from the beginning.

Why the IGF? From some very respected people that I've talked to on various boards, the LR3 is a waste of money and doesn't cause hyperplasia in the slightest, which is what the initial claims were.

PCT should be fine. :)

Matt

I want to try out the IGF because right now I have found a price to get 1mg for cheaper than a bottle of SA tren

[The Terminator]

Fair enough. :)

Matt

[BIGDADDY69]

I would not worry about HCG till week 9...and make sure to use IGF right after you workout right inti the muscle you train...amazing pumps

[tex]

hcg at week 9? i was under the impressin that hcg was to be used PRE pct......correct me if i am wrong......

[hyperlite32]

You can use HCG throughout your whole cycle. But most people start it towards the end of their cycle to get the ballz moving again...

[tex]

alrighty....i thought you would d/c it before clomid therapy tho......thanks for clearing that up

[Blitz-Test]

alrighty....i thought you would d/c it before clomid therapy tho......thanks for clearing that up

you do do it before hcg can be supressive so if you use it during pct it is loosing alot of effectiveness it is best to do throughout so your body never suffers from lack of LH because hcg is using the same pathways then you have nolva or clomid or torm to stimulate LH

[tex]

^^ thanks for the clarification

[Praetorian]

What do you guys think of this cycle, it is a progressive pre contest prep cycle, so the last cycle before a contest prep which will mostlikely only be test+aromasin

Thinking along the lines of

1-8 Testosterone Prop: 143mg/eod (500mg/week)
1-8 Trenbolone Ace: 72mg/eod (250mg/week) or 107mg/eod (375mg/week)
1-5 IGF-LR3: 40mcg/pwo bilat (5 times a week)
1-5 hCG: 100IU/with IGF (500IU/week)
6-8 hCG: 415IU/2xweek (830IU/week)
9-10 Tamox: 40mg/ed
11-13 Tamox: 20mg/ed
12-13 Aromasin 25mg/eod

I was thinking of an oral for a kicker but, honestly TNT+IGF, no need for an oral lol


Switch the tren for dbol at 50 mg ED...10MG every 4-5 hours. It is less suppresive then tren and youll get more growth. Ditch the LR3 its useless for growth...the only proven growth on IGF is not LR3 its straight IGF-1 and its expensive and you must do multiple shots daily. LR3 becomes sytemic in minutes and is great as a glucose diposal agent but thats it. You dont need HCG during an 8 week cycle...thats completely unnecessary. Run the HCG after you stop the prop 1000iu ETD for a total of 10,000 iu. Then start clomid or nolvadex your choice for 3 weeks. You may not even require that being that the cycle is relatively short. Also im not sure of your stats or cycle history but 500mg per week is a newbie dose...if thats your case fine if not up it to at least 1g per week and EOD shots preferably ED for more even blood levels. Why aromasin near the end? makes no sense. Youll have very littlle test conversion with 500mg weekly and aromasin is unnecessary. You can run it 12.5 mg ETD while using the HCG to keep endo conversion to a minimum and increase potency of LH. If you can... use GH instead of the IGF-1 LR3 its much more effective for growth...and run it during PCT at 2iu as well.
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[Rhinobolt10]

[QUOTE=Praetorian;59911]Switch the tren for dbol at 50 mg ED...10MG every 4-5 hours. It is less suppresive then tren and youll get more growth.

yeah, so listen... if by growth you mean water weight... than maybe yeah... but no, you don't get more growth on dbol than tren. That just isn't true.

His dose might be a little low... but tren is still effing tren... keep the tren.

[outshine]

I don't think you'd want the aromatization pre-pre contest? lol, stick with the tren (my favorite compound bar none) :) ).

I would personally pin the tren ED. I notices far less sides and better results. Also, whenever i run tren I prefer shorter, more powerful cycles.