What is the Difference between a Nitric Oxide and a pre-workout creatine??

[Thechamp]

Hey guys.
i just drop 40lbs to reach my goal weight (185lbs) and i'm now i want to gain some muscle mass. I've heard about nitric oxode and pre-workout creatines like superpump 250. What is the differences between the two and which one should i try?

[GTZ3]

They both ussualy go hand in hand. NO2 + creatine products include superump, Noexplode etc.

Pure NO2 is things such as nitrix ---> basically just arginine .... Arginine is great for pumps and cardio, but nothing else IMO.

[Ritch]

I wouldn`t think that taking just no2 would help you gain any mass. Creatine will. Something like superpump combines different forms of arginines, creatines and neurotransmiters. Get the american version. I used no shotgun by vpx and it worked very well.

[Thechamp]

Has anyone tried BSN No explode?

[Proteinkiller]

no-xplode is one of the most well known pre workout products out there bro.. its got tons of stimulants though so if you dont like stims dont take it other than that i like it and use it when i get it for free

something with beta-alanine will help your endurance , same with creatine , arginine ( the NO) will give you pumps and just push more blood to the muscles meaning more nutrients... otherwise **** supplements and just be consistent brother and eat a good diet high in arginine and save the 90 bucks

[kloan]

I tried the NoXplode for a couple weeks.. had to stop. It caused low blood pressure. I was getting really bad headaches, got dizzy and nauseous. And that was with 1/2 the recommended dose.

Now I just have green tea/creatine in grape juice pre-workout.

[Thechamp]

I tried the NoXplode for a couple weeks.. had to stop. It caused low blood pressure. I was getting really bad headaches, got dizzy and nauseous. And that was with 1/2 the recommended dose.

Now I just have green tea/creatine in grape juice pre-workout.

Green tea/creatine in grape juice for a pre-workout. You get a good pump on that?

[Thechamp]

Hey i just got my no shotgun and i love this stuff!!! I get such a crazy pump on it but it's the new NO-shotgun V.3 not the old one.

By the way for anyone who lives in the south shore of Montreal go to Nutri-Zone!! The guy is awsome he gave me such a good deal on my supplements!!

[kloan]

Green tea/creatine in grape juice for a pre-workout. You get a good pump on that?
lol, surprisingly, yeah... but I don't drink it for pump.. just drink it cuz I'm tired (caffeine) and like to have creatine pre-workout (for better sets, less fatigue in muscles)...

What's in the NO Shotgun mix?

[Ritch]

Here you go,

644 Grams Exotic Fruit
Supplement Facts
Serving Size23g(1 Scoop)
Servings Per Container28

Serving Amount % Daily Value

Calories ~81
Total Fat 0 0%
Carbohydrates 0mg 0%
Sodium 65mg 2.6%
Protein 20g 40%

Protein Hydrolysate Matrix Yielding 22% Glutamine Peptide, 21% BCAA Peptide, & 41% EAA's 9,660mg **

Casein Protein Hydrolysate
Whey Protein Hydrolysate
Ionic Whey Protein

Proprietary Branched Chain Ethyl Ester Amino Acid Matrix

L-Leucine, L-Valine, :-Isoleucine, L-Arginine, L-Valine Ethyl Ester, L-2-Aminopentanoic Acid (L-Nor Valine), L-Alanyl Glutamine, L-Arginine Ehtyl Ester Di-HCL, L-Isoleucine Ethyl Ester HCL, L-Leucine Ethyl Ester HCL

Proprietary Muscle Volumizing, NO2, Insulinotrophic Matrix 10,055mg **

Creatine Gluconate
CEX®(creatine ethyl ester HCL)
Creatine Taurinate
Creatine Monohydrate
COP® (Creatinol-O-Phosphate)
Di-Na Creatine Phosphate Tetrahydrate
Di-L-Arginine Malate
Citrulline Malate
Gamma-Butyrobetaine Ethyl Ester
Magnesium Tashinoate B
Bis Picolinato Oxo Vanadium (BPOV)
Gamma-Butyrobetaine

Power, Speed, Strength And Endurance Matrix

Beta Alanine/beta Alanine Ethyl Ester HCL
Guanidinopropionic Acid (GPA)
L-Histidine
KIC(Ketoisocaproic Acid Calcium)
Phosphates
Vitamin B6(Pyridoxine HCL- 250%
Creatine Magnesium Chelate

Redline Energy & Meltdown Fat Burning Technology 377mg **

L-Tyrosine
Caffeine Anhydrous
Beta Phenylethylamine HCL
Hordenine HCL
Folate(as Folic Acid)-100%
R-Beta-Methylphenylethylamine

* Percent Daily Values are based on a 2,000 calorie diet
** Daily Value not established

Other Ingredients
Natural And Artificial Flavor, Malic Acid, Sucralean Brand Sucralose (A Non-Nutritive Sweetner), Citric Acid Anhydrous, Monosodium Phosphate Anhydrous, Tri-Sodium Phosphate Dodecahydrate, Glycine (Food Grade).

[Thechamp]

Hey Ritch how is the exotix fruits tastes like? I got the black cherry and it's got a bad after taste

[Ritch]

I don`t know, I used the original formula which everyone complained about the taste. I didn`t find it bad at all. In fact I would add extra creatine ethyl ester, arginine ethyl ester to it. I admit the extra creatine made it taste bad. I gave a sample of this twice to a friend of mind and he threw up each time. The trick is to take a sip, shake it and repeat util it`s done, if you don`t the nasty ingredients all settle in the bottom making the last sips taste like toxid waste.

[kloan]

Do you feel weighed down at all with the protein taking that before a workout? I always thought it was best to not have protein before a workout..

The other ingredients look solid.. though I wish there were more companies using alternative sweeteners and natural flavours. Not a fan of the fake stuff.

[TheNutritionalSource]

BSN NO XPLODE ON SALE $49.99

SuperPump 250 $49.99

NO Shot Gun $54.99

All Products are brand new and sealed with expiry date late 2009-2011

Contact for more information....

[Ritch]

That`s a good price for the shotgutn.

[TheNutritionalSource]

Thank You,

Let us know if your ever interested...

[Thechamp]

Hey Ritch. When do you take your No-shotgun and do you drink one while you workout?

[Ritch]

I would take no shotgun at least 1 hour after having eaten and takes 40 mins to kick in full effect. (Usually train 2 hours after last meal) Never drank it during a workout. Always drink 70 grams of gatorade with 10-20 grams of bcaa during training. Some may say that`s too much carbs and bcaa but it really worked for me and my lower stomach looked leaner. I guess some of the fat burning ingredients in no shotgun helped as well... Never had a bad workout while using it.

[Thechamp]

Thanks alot Ritch! I'll take it 40min before i train